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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 00:48:24 Reply

At 5/7/12 08:21 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
Don't overstate his plight. Having a degree is only one piece of getting a job. For all we know he lives in Miami Oklahoma and showers once a fortnight.

I live in Dayton, Ohio. Nearby is Wright Patterson Air Force Base, so the immediate area has a lot of defense contractors. I have been expanding by job search area to include the entirety of Ohio and its bordering states. I have been to three career fairs within the past couple months, professionally dressed and with my resume and well prepared, and have not been able to get anything at this point. I have looked at Monster.com and USAJOBS.gov for employment, as well as the sites of business contractors.

I have a job on campus, but it requires me to take classes to keep it. Therefore, I have been taking classes just to have any sort of job at all...and I think my student loans cost more than I earn! Due to changes in majors and stuff, I have been on campus since 2002, and my loan costs are equal to aDodge Viper.

I am most certainly NOT a person who showers once a fortnight.

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Anyway, back to the topic on hand. I have looked at stuff like a 75% millionaire tax (which may drive the rich out of France?) and heard stuff that France is going to collapse and the United States will be next. Of course, how trustworthy is information that comes out of a horse's ass?

I am sick of hearing this crap, and none of these countries should be experiencing this sort of economic crap in this day and age. People would have to be so incompetent that they would forget how to blink for Great Depression level unemployment and woes to take place in the developed world today. Well, that's just how I feel, and I do tend to overreact.

We need solutions, not excuses or ways to make things worse. It might ultimately be up to the people themselves to solve this.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 11:25:29 Reply

At 5/11/12 12:48 AM, Th-e wrote: Stuff

There's over 2000 jobs listed in Ohio for a driver,, with 349 of those jobs being classified as new, on the very first website for a quick google search of "jobs in ohio" yielded me, and at least a quarter of them are 20k a year plus. With an estimate of around 400k unemployed/underemployed/what have you in Ohio, you end up 20 or so people going for that job, assuming that 100% of the unemployed are looking at that sort of job and this one specific website, or 60ish for the newly posted jobs.

I get the feeling you view certain jobs as beneath you.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 11:28:30 Reply

At 5/11/12 11:25 AM, RacistBassist wrote: I get the feeling you view certain jobs as beneath you.

He's got a masters in engineering, not an associates from DeVry...

Many jobs are beneath him. That 20K a year job is severely underemployed for his qualifications. Not to mention truck driving sucks major ass.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 11:36:49 Reply

At 5/11/12 11:28 AM, Camarohusky wrote: He's got a masters in engineering, not an associates from DeVry...

Many jobs are beneath him. That 20K a year job is severely underemployed for his qualifications. Not to mention truck driving sucks major ass.

So basically he has a huge amount of self-entitlement issues, and that is the reason he can not find employment. Boo fucking hoo he's only making 20k plus a year until the economy recovers.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 12:09:37 Reply

At 5/11/12 11:36 AM, RacistBassist wrote: So basically he has a huge amount of self-entitlement issues, and that is the reason he can not find employment. Boo fucking hoo he's only making 20k plus a year until the economy recovers.

Sounds like someone didn't go to college and is bitter of all those who did.

And no, wanting the job you worked hard and paid a good amount of money to be qualified for is NOT an entitlement issue.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 12:42:51 Reply

At 5/11/12 12:09 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Sounds like someone didn't go to college and is bitter of all those who did.

Nah, I'm having a blast working hard, getting money, all with zero investment money or time wise besides needing work clothes and gas and shit.

And no, wanting the job you worked hard and paid a good amount of money to be qualified for is NOT an entitlement issue.

You see, there's a difference between wanting something, and refusing to accept anything less than it because it is below you, and then going on to complain about lack of work.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 12:46:26 Reply

At 5/11/12 12:09 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

There are many people fresh out of college who would kill for $20000 a year in the knowledge that they need it to get their foot in the door and start their career during a recession when no one wants to coddle an inexperienced intern. Just saying.

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At 5/11/12 12:42 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Nah, I'm having a blast working hard, getting money, all with zero investment money or time wise besides needing work clothes and gas and shit.

So, i'm right. You have never been to college and have zero idea what college is supposed to prepare you for. It's not supposed to prepare you to graduate and work for terrible pay in a job any stupid retard could do (like your job).

You see, there's a difference between wanting something, and refusing to accept anything less than it because it is below you, and then going on to complain about lack of work.

Underemployment is lack of work. Frankly, anybody who had anything more than a high school diploma is overqualified for that truck driving job.

At 5/11/12 12:46 PM, bismuthfeldspar wrote: There are many people fresh out of college who would kill for $20000 a year in the knowledge that they need it to get their foot in the door and start their career during a recession when no one wants to coddle an inexperienced intern. Just saying.

First off, bullshit. I call major bullshit on your assertion there. You don't go to school for nearly two decades with the intent to be a barista for 2 years.

Second, how the fuck is driving a truck "getting your foot in the door" for a job that requires a masters in engineering? The only thing driving a truck prepares you for is driving trucks and managing those who drive trucks. Same thing goes for barista-ing, waiting, retial, and most other menial jobs. There is a reason you go to college to work in the high level jobs, because jobs that any loser could master don't prepare for the higher up jobs.

I have no problem with people taking menial jobs to hold themselves over. I did it once after undergrad, and barring extreme luck, I intend to do it again. But I'm nowhere near dumb enough to think that the retial job I get to hold me over will have any benefit toward getting a legal job. Until I get a legal job, I will be underemployed.

Try applying yourself to something in life, and then find yourself robbed of the chance to use it for 2 years. See if you feel great. Especially when you're making less then half what you would make should that thing have worked out.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 19:04:05 Reply

At 5/11/12 02:32 PM, Camarohusky wrote: So, i'm right. You have never been to college and have zero idea what college is supposed to prepare you for. It's not supposed to prepare you to graduate and work for terrible pay in a job any stupid retard could do (like your job).

Sounds like you're a little bit bitchy today. Tell us Cama, what is it that you do that is so hard that warrants a degree?

That also does not make you entitled to a job in your field. Merely qualified for it. Big difference. Nobody owes you anything.

Underemployment is lack of work. Frankly, anybody who had anything more than a high school diploma is overqualified for that truck driving job.

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt most people with a high school diploma have the skill to successfully use a class A CDL without destroying something.

First off, bullshit. I call major bullshit on your assertion there. You don't go to school for nearly two decades with the intent to be a barista for 2 years.

Intent has nothing to do with what you get.

Second, how the fuck is driving a truck "getting your foot in the door" for a job that requires a masters in engineering? The only thing driving a truck prepares you for is driving trucks and managing those who drive trucks. Same thing goes for barista-ing, waiting, retial, and most other menial jobs. There is a reason you go to college to work in the high level jobs, because jobs that any loser could master don't prepare for the higher up jobs.

Oh, I don't know, being able to network with people related to the field, job history (In case you didn't know, most places also want some work experience and not somebody fresh out of college who's never held down a job), and, here's a big one, money in the meantime? Jobs that any loser could master? Sounds like somebody has a false sense of elitism. I'm dying to here all about your job that nobody can do but you.

I have no problem with people taking menial jobs to hold themselves over. I did it once after undergrad, and barring extreme luck, I intend to do it again. But I'm nowhere near dumb enough to think that the retial job I get to hold me over will have any benefit toward getting a legal job. Until I get a legal job, I will be underemployed.

You're such a self entitled cunt

Try applying yourself to something in life, and then find yourself robbed of the chance to use it for 2 years. See if you feel great. Especially when you're making less then half what you would make should that thing have worked out.

Feelings mean jack shit here in reality. You shouldn't be making anything. Nobody owes us a damn thing.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 19:36:34 Reply

At 5/11/12 07:04 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Tell us Cama, what is it that you do that is so hard that warrants a degree?

Didn't go to college because you can't read?

I'm sorry, but I highly doubt most people with a high school diploma have the skill to successfully use a class A CDL without destroying something.

Oh sorry, I forgot the 10 hours of training.

Oh, I don't know, being able to network with people related to the field, job history (In case you didn't know, most places also want some work experience and not somebody fresh out of college who's never held down a job), and, here's a big one, money in the meantime? Jobs that any loser could master? Sounds like somebody has a false sense of elitism. I'm dying to here all about your job that nobody can do but you.

What networking will you make as a truck driver that will have any bearing on a job that requires a Masters in Engineering?

How does holding down a job and making money in the meantime change the underemployment status of a job a person is way overqualified for?

Also, ever wonder why pro se litigants are made fun of and look stupid?

You're such a self entitled cunt

Pardon me for wanting what I worked hard for. You're the self entitled person for believing that you deserve a paycheck for all that work you put in. Sorry, instead of a paycheck, you're now going to get a membership to the Jelly of the Month Club. I mean, you shouldn't be making anything. Nobody owes you a damn thing.

According to you, no one ever deserves anything for the hard work they do.

Feelings mean jack shit here in reality. You shouldn't be making anything. Nobody owes us a damn thing.

You would figure the conservative would actually have a shred of empathy for those who try to beter themselves. Guess that's not how it works. Maybe conservativisim is what it looks like on its face: the party of ME.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 19:58:37 Reply

At 5/11/12 07:36 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Didn't go to college because you can't read?

Nah, I didn't go because I don't like the thought of having to take out loans on shit on something that can end up backfiring big time. Like what happened to the person in this friend.

Oh sorry, I forgot the 10 hours of training.

Huge oversimplifications FTW.

What networking will you make as a truck driver that will have any bearing on a job that requires a Masters in Engineering?

Getting to know the people in Boeing is always a big plus or insert x company here.

How does holding down a job and making money in the meantime change the underemployment status of a job a person is way overqualified for?

Let's list reasons:

Job history
Money

Shit, that's pretty much all you need. If everybody was a self-entitled douche who thinks they deserve 100k, almost the entire country would be considered underemployed.

Pardon me for wanting what I worked hard for. You're the self entitled person for believing that you deserve a paycheck for all that work you put in. Sorry, instead of a paycheck, you're now going to get a membership to the Jelly of the Month Club. I mean, you shouldn't be making anything. Nobody owes you a damn thing.

Right. I'm the self-entitled person for thinking that nobody owes us anything and that we have to work to get what we want and things don't always work out in the end.

According to you, no one ever deserves anything for the hard work they do.

Let's all twist what I am saying.

You would figure the conservative would actually have a shred of empathy for those who try to beter themselves. Guess that's not how it works. Maybe conservativisim is what it looks like on its face: the party of ME.

Oh no, he gets props for trying to be an engineer and shit. But that's about it. Nowhere do I feel that he deserves to be one, nor do I feel it is owed to him that he should get a job in that field right out of the gates.

Also, you think I'm a conservative? That's just lol.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-11 22:58:09 Reply

Guys, this is getting off topic.

I was only using my situation and the situation in America in comparison with the situation in France and Europe.

This topic needs to get back to France and Hollande. If you want to talk American jobs and stuff, find an existing topic or create a new one. I tried to end my statement by returning to the topic at hand, but it didn't work.

I apologize for causing Thread Decay. It's time to return to the topic at hand.

And I have heard differing views on the impact Hollande will have on France, varying from doomsday to a path towards real recovery.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-12 11:48:07 Reply

At 5/11/12 10:58 PM, Th-e wrote: And I have heard differing views on the impact Hollande will have on France, varying from doomsday to a path towards real recovery.

I am skeptical that Hollande will lead to anything other than business as usual. At most the attitude may change, but even a medium sized country like France can't be fixed by one man.

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At 5/12/12 11:48 AM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 5/11/12 10:58 PM, Th-e wrote: And I have heard differing views on the impact Hollande will have on France, varying from doomsday to a path towards real recovery.
I am skeptical that Hollande will lead to anything other than business as usual. At most the attitude may change, but even a medium sized country like France can't be fixed by one man.

First, France is a "medium" sized country? By which comparison? It has the 21st largest population of the 242 countries and territories on this list, putting it in the top 10 percent. Its population is more than twice the size of the average country (which is artificially high due to the statistical outliers China and India- not counting those two, France is 3.5 times larger than the average), and France is 14.6 times the size of the median country (Georgia).

Second, it's not just one man, it's the President of the country who currently has the backing of the upper house of the legislature, and the lower house is being selected in about a month from now in what is shaping up to be a close election between the conservative coalition and the left-wing coalition. If at the end of the day the Socialists have control of the Presidency, the Senate, and the National Assembly, you can expect to see some changes.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-12 16:05:03 Reply

At 5/12/12 01:20 PM, Angry-Hatter wrote: First, France is a "medium" sized country? By which comparison? It has the 21st largest population of the 242 countries and territories on this list, putting it in the top 10 percent. Its population is more than twice the size of the average country (which is artificially high due to the statistical outliers China and India- not counting those two, France is 3.5 times larger than the average), and France is 14.6 times the size of the median country (Georgia).

I don't care about average. The world is full of small nations. France is medium in that it isn't large. I'd sort out large and medium countries by about 75,000,000 residents.

Second, it's not just one man, it's the President of the country who currently has the backing of the upper house of the legislature, and the lower house is being selected in about a month from now in what is shaping up to be a close election between the conservative coalition and the left-wing coalition. If at the end of the day the Socialists have control of the Presidency, the Senate, and the National Assembly, you can expect to see some changes.

So? I still see it as unlikely that Hollande will have as much leeway as it appears. Much of the votes for Hollande were actually a referendum on Sarkozy as opposed to a blank check for the socialist party. When sides believe the other side is going to an extreme position they also tend to dig in much harder (see conservatives in the US). While Hollande may speak differently and bring a different attitude to politics, I doubt that too much will actually come out of this. Should Hollande get a second term, then all bets are off.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-12 16:38:04 Reply

At 5/12/12 04:05 PM, Camarohusky wrote: I don't care about average. The world is full of small nations. France is medium in that it isn't large. I'd sort out large and medium countries by about 75,000,000 residents.

Then your criterum for sorting large and medium countries is completely arbitrary. You might as well say that any country with a population under 100 million, or 150 million, or 70.25 million, is medium.

So? I still see it as unlikely that Hollande will have as much leeway as it appears. Much of the votes for Hollande were actually a referendum on Sarkozy as opposed to a blank check for the socialist party. When sides believe the other side is going to an extreme position they also tend to dig in much harder (see conservatives in the US). While Hollande may speak differently and bring a different attitude to politics, I doubt that too much will actually come out of this. Should Hollande get a second term, then all bets are off.

So what you are basically arguing is the Obama effect, that a candidate will campaign on change but after the election will govern the same way as his predecessor. Fair enough, but I would not discount Hollande and the Socialist's mandate, or their ability to affect change. If you are saying that it is unlikely that France will change radically into something completely different over the next 5 years, then I won't disagree with you, but if you are arguing that little at all will change in terms of policy, then I think you will find that you are mistaken, especially if the left-wing coalition takes the National Assembly next month.

Europe is not the US. When there is a shift in leadership from one party to another, there is usually an actual, noticable difference.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 04:11:16 Reply

At 5/6/12 08:39 PM, camobch0 wrote: Francois Hollande has been elected the new French President. I haven't been following France much of late, so how do you guys think Hollande will be able to deal with the countries extreme debt as a Socialist? If there are any French users, do you guys support Hollande? Why? What's wrong with Hollande? Does his lack of political experience hobble him, or is fresh blood needed in the kind of situation France is currently in?

Le pen has played him, she could of got Sarkozy re-elected if she told her supporters to vote for him, however she has let Hollande win so that he can crash France and next year she will win.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 19:24:31 Reply

At 5/11/12 11:28 AM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 5/11/12 11:25 AM, RacistBassist wrote: I get the feeling you view certain jobs as beneath you.
He's got a masters in engineering, not an associates from DeVry...

Many jobs are beneath him. That 20K a year job is severely underemployed for his qualifications. Not to mention truck driving sucks major ass.

Fine, then get the damn job anyway. I have someone living as a tenet in my house, his resume and life is really fucking impressive. He's a decorated veteran of the Vietnam War, he has massive experience in managing projects and was trusted with multi-million dollar budgets, he was one of those people who worked on the IP Address even and he had a 7 figure salary (HIs house flooded and so he spent weeks trying to clean the basement and developed tumors, he was taken to the hospital and treated for them while in the meantime his company went bankrupt and his wife left him, hence why he doesn't have it now). The guy was even part of a company committing fraud and he constantly brought forth the issue up to someone higher up and was ignored so when the company was caught he testified before Congress about it. This guy would go out at night to drive trucks or be a janitor simply because you need to get some job and simply bitching about how it's "below" you doesn't get you any closer to any job.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 19:50:54 Reply

At 5/17/12 07:24 PM, Warforger wrote: This guy would go out at night to drive trucks or be a janitor simply because you need to get some job and simply bitching about how it's "below" you doesn't get you any closer to any job.

And? How would change the fact that those jobs are still below him?

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 20:00:33 Reply

At 5/17/12 07:50 PM, Camarohusky wrote: And? How would change the fact that those jobs are still below him?

The part where when you are unemployed virtually no honest job is beneath you?


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 21:03:57 Reply

At 5/17/12 08:00 PM, RacistBassist wrote: The part where when you are unemployed virtually no honest job is beneath you?

Oh, instead of the part where you actually applied yourself in life in order to get something better.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 21:29:05 Reply

At 5/17/12 09:03 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 5/17/12 08:00 PM, RacistBassist wrote: The part where when you are unemployed virtually no honest job is beneath you?
Oh, instead of the part where you actually applied yourself in life in order to get something better.

Nobody owes us anything. Going to school on a loan for 4 years does not entitle you to having jobs be beneath you


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 22:31:53 Reply

At 5/17/12 07:50 PM, Camarohusky wrote:
At 5/17/12 07:24 PM, Warforger wrote: This guy would go out at night to drive trucks or be a janitor simply because you need to get some job and simply bitching about how it's "below" you doesn't get you any closer to any job.
And? How would change the fact that those jobs are still below him?

Well then he wouldn't be complaining he'd be working them which he isn't doing and seems to be instead piling himself into more debt in the process. I don't know the whole story about him since for all I know you and him are just computer programs to entertain me but to simply not take jobs since you think they're "below you" is immature and does not make you rise anywhere.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-17 23:58:42 Reply

At 5/17/12 10:31 PM, Warforger wrote: Well then he wouldn't be complaining he'd be working them which he isn't doing and seems to be instead piling himself into more debt in the process.

Or he'd be working some shitty job and complaining about how he is not able to find a job in the field he studied and is very much qualified for.

I don't know the whole story about him since for all I know you and him are just computer programs to entertain me but to simply not take jobs since you think they're "below you" is immature and does not make you rise anywhere.

Anyone who has qualifications who has tried to get any job knows that low end jobs don't want people with higher education and qualifications. They want people who will commit for the long term, not those who are just getting a job for the money and to hold them over until they can get a real job.

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At 5/17/12 11:58 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Or he'd be working some shitty job and complaining about how he is not able to find a job in the field he studied and is very much qualified for.

Which at the very least he can show he isn't just some whiny pretentious cunt and shows he is willing to work and get his hands red in times of need.

Anyone who has qualifications who has tried to get any job knows that low end jobs don't want people with higher education and qualifications. They want people who will commit for the long term, not those who are just getting a job for the money and to hold them over until they can get a real job.

That is not true whatsoever. There are many places that take everyone. Shit, there are a lot of places that will take anybody with higher qualifications than High School for management positions. even more so if it's semi-related to the field, and these are jobs that pay out to 30k-40k a year which is not bad at all.


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-18 12:18:49 Reply

At 5/6/12 10:39 PM, Kidradd wrote: you can criticize france for overspending, and rightfully so, but really there are no countries in europe right now that are even in the same ballpark greece is in. its not an easy comparison to make.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-18 13:09:18 Reply

At 5/18/12 08:22 AM, RacistBassist wrote: Which at the very least he can show he isn't just some whiny pretentious cunt and shows he is willing to work and get his hands red in times of need.

But he shouldn't be happy there. He should be wanting more, and with his qualifications, deservedly so. Being happy there means he's given up. My Drum instructor in college once said: "It's OK to be proud of where you are, but never be happy with it, or else you will go no further." (somewhat altered due to memory)

That is not true whatsoever. There are many places that take everyone. Shit, there are a lot of places that will take anybody with higher qualifications than High School for management positions. even more so if it's semi-related to the field, and these are jobs that pay out to 30k-40k a year which is not bad at all.

Actually, it is true. When I graduated undergrad I shotgunned at any job I could think of. Very few gave me the light of day. I was too overqualified. I did end up settling into a documentation job for $25K/yr (in Seattle, so think less for most other places) and enjoyed it other than the fact that it led nowhere and the actual work lacked any challenge and was mind-numbingly boring.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-19 17:16:16 Reply

At 5/18/12 01:09 PM, Camarohusky wrote: But he shouldn't be happy there. He should be wanting more, and with his qualifications, deservedly so. Being happy there means he's given up. My Drum instructor in college once said: "It's OK to be proud of where you are, but never be happy with it, or else you will go no further." (somewhat altered due to memory)

No shit he should want more. Everybody should want more. That does not mean you act like a cunt and complain that you can't get a job when there's a lot open that have decent wages because they are "beneath you." Going to college does not make it beneath you.

Actually, it is true. When I graduated undergrad I shotgunned at any job I could think of. Very few gave me the light of day. I was too overqualified. I did end up settling into a documentation job for $25K/yr (in Seattle, so think less for most other places) and enjoyed it other than the fact that it led nowhere and the actual work lacked any challenge and was mind-numbingly boring.

"At any job I could think of."

I doubt that given your attitutde about jobs being beneath you. Also, timing of this is everything. When the recession was at its highest, shit happens. But now that it's recovering slightly, many jobs are open. And a metric fuckton more if you count jobs that are "beneath" you


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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-19 18:12:35 Reply

At 5/19/12 05:16 PM, RacistBassist wrote: No shit he should want more. Everybody should want more. That does not mean you act like a cunt and complain that you can't get a job when there's a lot open that have decent wages because they are "beneath you." Going to college does not make it beneath you.

It makes it something he should feel terrible for having (save if that's what he wanted). He didn't bust his but to get a masters in engineering so he could barist, wait tables, be a cashier, or drive trucks. he did it so he could work in the field of engineering.


"At any job I could think of."
I doubt that given your attitutde about jobs being beneath you. Also, timing of this is everything. When the recession was at its highest, shit happens. But now that it's recovering slightly, many jobs are open. And a metric fuckton more if you count jobs that are "beneath" you

Nope. I applied to tons of jobs that were below me, but would get me office experince, such as administrative assistant jobs, and other lower level office staff. The first real lead I got actually came from the Walgreen clerk position. But it only took me a couple months to learn why they handed that job out so easily (because it was bad. Hated from the bottom because you're a boss, but hated from the top because you couldn't get the people below you to be manager quality. I was physically threatened on a regular basis by mentally ill custome-- vagrants, I got stolen from almost daily, and by little old ladies. That job was just something I couldn't handle and stay anything less than an angry person at.) After that job, I was finally able to get a low level office job, doing data entry. I have worked my fair share of jobs that are beneath me, with the first qualified job I have had being my recent intership.

I also was doing the job search before the 2008 collapse (2007 to be exact) so it's not like things were bad yet. I intend to hold down a "it's just for the money until i get a real job" job once I'm done taking the bar (that is if transplant time doesn't work its way in.) I have no aversion to doing what is necessary to have an income, but don't tell me I have to eat that shit and like it. I have worked hard my entire life with the goal of getting a challenging career. If I feel like I am not where I need to be (i.e. failing or still intransition) if I get a job you would call a career, too bad. I worked hard for the qualifications I have, so I have earned the right to not be happy with anything less.

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Response to Hollande is French President 2012-05-20 09:57:51 Reply

Training or an education in a certain feild doesn't give you the automatic right to work in that field.
I happen to know a guy who works in the motion picture industry. Really wants to be a rigging Grip. Has taken all the courses for elevated lift platforms, telescoping forklifts, articulated booms, fall arrest, high angle rescue ,remote camera platform tech.
On paper he usually gets the highest marks in the class, almost always 100%.

On site the guy's a fucking hazzard.
He can't be trusted to put the key in the on position of a machine !
His ability to understand and draw out a hydrolic system with 16 different movements to the machine depending on which control element you move is flawless ...his ability to operate those in a real world situation is dismal.
no one trusts him out on a beam, mostly because he doesn't trust himself or his equipment.
Any machine he operates, his first step is to place that unit in low turtle. (as slow as it will go)
Initially we thought he was getting a machine with mechanical problems....the mechanical problem was his ability to operate it !
I believe (but cannot prove) he is afraid of the unit, he over thinks & all that could possibly go wrong has him overly cautious.

Lots of people are book smart, that don't make them great teachers.
My Dad put it to me one time, if 200 doctors are graduating medicine, some of them are the lowest grading students in the class... yet they are still doctors, just like the highest scoring, brightest students in the class !
But which one would you rather have as your doctor ?

There are many people with little or no education, you won't find a better farmer, or fisherman anywhere near as good as they are with degrees from fishery school.
Education doesn't mean shit, if you can't grasp & operate the mechanics of the job.


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