At 5/1/12 08:26 PM, gumOnShoe wrote:
Getting the Government more involved in Healthcare is a liberal position.
Worked out under Bush
Yeah, because that Stimulus to prevent the economy from crashing sure did keep the economy from crashing.
Auto Bail outHardly liberal and barely socialist in nature. Keynesian, maybe, but everyone was Keynesian up until recently.
Corporatism, which is a form of socialism.
Although I do like how you only call bank bail outs "friendly."
I love it when two of the exact same policies are treated so differently in tone.
Really not liberal the way it worked out.
In fact it was just way to friendly towards the banks. Not enough oversite or anything, just a hand out of money. It was a centrist half move.
Certainly explains how with a Republican President that more of them would support it.
If anything this could be a war hawk movie, but you'd have to get into more of the why & how it happened. I'd certainly say that the Libyan war was more liberal than the iraq war in execution; BUT, I wouldn't call it liberal.
I like how you consider getting Congressional authorization to attack a country that posed no threat a "hawk move", but by-passing congress to get permission from the Arab League to be "more liberal."
They're both basically the same, and they're both stupid.
Though the gullibility from you leftist types who actually believed Obama would be different, truly amuses me.
Again, not a liberal policy at all. Its just a security policy, one that even Bush might have made. It has nothing to do liberal ideas, but instead the progression of the war.
Convenient excuse to cover the ass of your Messiah.
Very un-liberal. In fact, its down right conservative.
Even though all the liberals voted for it at the time.
Again, very un-liberal. Its a very rightward move.
A move that no one on the right (or even Bush) claimed to have.
In fact, the only people I see defending it are liberals.
Don't get me wrong, I'd imagine the right doing the same if Bush did it.
Again, a very right side of the aisle position, although for his sake its mostly personal. I don't believe he'd actually veto a gay marriage bill if it came across his desk, even if he agreed with the people who wanted him to veto it on a personal level.
Despite ordering the Justice Dept to file against the Judge's motion to get rid of 'Don't Ask, Don't Tell' when a GAY REPUBLICAN GROUP won it.
Most liberals are considered hippies, and drugster hippies at that. I don't get what you're saying.
That the ban on pot started under FDR and all 4 of the liberal justices on SCOTUS ruled against a woman who grew pot in her own yard in a state where it was legal.
Um no. Big Government =/= liberal.
But Liberals claim to want bigger Government, while Conservatives claim to want a smaller one.
I'm only going by what you claim to want.
There's conservative big government as well. It generally takes on McCarthiest shades. It generally supports wars of aggression or choice.
The irony of you using McCarthy when it was Lyndon Johnson who lied about Vietnam and got us into a war getting over 66,000 soldiers killed.
Obama is considered a "Great Guy" because he goes about the implementation in a different way.
You know what I said about being gullible before...
He doesn't our allies off, he's not combative, he doesn't flex his muscles for show, and he's generally an intelligent guy.
And yet he invades other countries, increases illegal drone strikes, renews the Patriot Act, claims he can assassinate American born citizens, all while refusing to take the nuclear option off the table for a piss poor, half baked nation like Iran who doesn't even have 1 nuke.
No, that's not flexing!
However, in the liberal community people aren't exactly happy with him.
I didn't expect any consistency from you very people who only pretended to give a shit about civil rights, torture, and dying soldiers in pointless wars.
But I guess their lives were only worth getting a black guy elected.
After all, if you people truly cared, you'd still be protesting and demanding impeachment for getting more troops killed in his first 2 years in office than Bush did in all of his two terms.
We'd rather have a real liberal in charge who advanced a liberal agenda. That said, we'd rather have Obama, even if he is republican-light
See, this is why you're a fucking retarded, little bastard.
Practically everything Bush did was centered around big Government and more centralized Power. You people should absolutely love at least half of those things from Prescription Part D to federalizing Education.
The only reason why fucking stupid people like you can get away with calling other people "Extreme Republicans" is because your stupid ass considers him to be a moderate to begin with, when in reality he's a big Government, left wing, Republican.