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We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:02:08 Reply

A star needs to be neither dim or bright.

We need to work together, and stop becoming brighter or dimmer than others.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:06:19 Reply

Stars are made of gas and fire. I guess we all just fizzle out in the end.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:07:04 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:06 PM, bman200 wrote: Stars are made of gas and fire. I guess we all just fizzle out in the end.

Then become a big ass black hole and take everything around us with us.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:08:30 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:06 PM, bman200 wrote: Stars are made of gas and fire. I guess we all just fizzle out in the end.

Life was never meant to be taken literally.

There is more than gas and fire if you allow it to be more.

There is an interpersonal correlaton with life's infrastructure.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:09:27 Reply

If a star doesn't glow brightly it can become a black dwarf and collapse if it never burns brightly it's a brown dwarf and pretty much sucks dick it's whole life.

We are all stars in an unknown sea.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:11:16 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:08 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: Life was never meant to be taken literally.

There is more than gas and fire if you allow it to be more.

There is an interpersonal correlaton with life's infrastructure.

No there isn't, everything needed for life is found in the gaseous contents of stars.

Just ask Neil Degrasse Tyson.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:13:14 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:09 PM, ih8dude wrote: If a star doesn't glow brightly it can become a black dwarf and collapse if it never burns brightly it's a brown dwarf and pretty much sucks dick it's whole life.

A star's excessive luminous dims the stars around it.

When stars are cohesive with one another, they create constellations; designs.

A star's weakness is only acknowledged by those with unhealthy standards of life, for the stars reflect off of your inner weakness.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:14:56 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:11 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:08 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: Life was never meant to be taken literally.

There is more than gas and fire if you allow it to be more.

There is an interpersonal correlaton with life's infrastructure.
No there isn't, everything needed for life is found in the gaseous contents of stars.

Just ask Neil Degrasse Tyson.

The origin of life is the infrastructure of essence.

This essence is naught, without a master to acknowledge its existence.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:16:07 Reply

We don't "have" to do shit. The idea that reality or any aspect of it has an inherent purpose beyond what some human chooses it to be is silly.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:18:08 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:11 PM, ih8dude wrote: Just ask Neil Degrasse Tyson.

Uh oh.

We are all stars in an unknown sea.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:18:17 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:16 PM, Buoy wrote: We don't "have" to do shit. The idea that reality or any aspect of it has an inherent purpose beyond what some human chooses it to be is silly.

Of course.

A false system prompted off of irrational inferences.

We only smother free will by questioning our free will.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:19:55 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:13 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: A star's excessive luminous dims the stars around it.

Exactly, he who succeeds breeds. Like the star that is brighter getting to give life to planets with it's radiation people live on through what they do in comparison to others. It's not enough that you should succeed others must fail.

We are all stars in an unknown sea.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:25:54 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:19 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:13 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: A star's excessive luminous dims the stars around it.
Exactly, he who succeeds breeds. Like the star that is brighter getting to give life to planets with it's radiation people live on through what they do in comparison to others. It's not enough that you should succeed others must fail.

Success is a false system built in an irrational reality of capitalism, industries, mechanical systems, heartless intentions, emotionless agendas, voided precedences.

The only thing you breed, is false a sense of progression in a life that never evolves, but only changes. While segregating yourself from the fundamentals of our world and its inhabitants.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:29:50 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:25 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Success is a false system built in an irrational reality of capitalism, industries, mechanical systems, heartless intentions, emotionless agendas, voided precedences.

The only thing you breed, is false a sense of progression in a life that never evolves, but only changes. While segregating yourself from the fundamentals of our world and its inhabitants.

Wrong again. Capitalism succeeds because it provides people with needs and wants. The only heartless intentions are the idealistic philosophers who try to slow this progression by suggesting there's something wrong with tangible exchanges for happiness. Our world and it's inhabitants are competing for success because resources are limited so it's your duty to yourself to compete with them for the components of happiness.

We are all stars in an unknown sea.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:40:34 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:29 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:25 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Success is a false system built in an irrational reality of capitalism, industries, mechanical systems, heartless intentions, emotionless agendas, voided precedences.

The only thing you breed, is false a sense of progression in a life that never evolves, but only changes. While segregating yourself from the fundamentals of our world and its inhabitants.
Wrong again. Capitalism succeeds because it provides people with needs and wants. The only heartless intentions are the idealistic philosophers who try to slow this progression by suggesting there's something wrong with tangible exchanges for happiness. Our world and it's inhabitants are competing for success because resources are limited so it's your duty to yourself to compete with them for the components of happiness.

The inflation of babies being born in a world that is morally/socially corrupted is far more a mandatory predicament than any false element of success. Capitalism; trade is in correlation with the monetary system and all sorts of other industrial systems that have no heart of mind of its own. It is all business in their eyes. It is called dualism. When you convince yourself to see only the positives of what is really negative. Capitalism; trade could've been a system better utilized, but greed and corruption turned it into a systematical wall of heartless inflation.

The only heartless intentions is the conjuror of heartless intentions. Those that believe that materials is the product of happiness, when fundamental happiness is greater than any materialistic form of happiness, are the real reason why happiness is constricted in this industrial reality.

Note: A glass if half-full, and half-empty. You are only fooling yourself if you choose to see it as only half-full or half-empty.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:42:47 Reply

I still think my answer was pretty logical. It was also quite deep. I think that life just plays along. I mean, I don't believe in coincidences, but everything just sort of floats along.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:44:38 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:25 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Hippie bullshit

Get a haircut, take a shower, buy some real shoes and get a real job.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:47:12 Reply

nope.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:47:19 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:40 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Note: A glass if half-full, and half-empty. You are only fooling yourself if you choose to see it as only half-full or half-empty.

You're mistaking commerce for capitalism. Capitalism existed long before monetization and it existed in every culture and in a contolled environment it transcends species. In other words, it exists because it's real think of religion if we were to remove religion something else would take it's place but if we were to remove science it would just reappear exactly as it is. A glass is neither half full or half empty it's built with 100% excess capacity.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:54:55 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:47 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:40 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Note: A glass if half-full, and half-empty. You are only fooling yourself if you choose to see it as only half-full or half-empty.
You're mistaking commerce for capitalism. Capitalism existed long before monetization and it existed in every culture and in a contolled environment it transcends species. In other words, it exists because it's real think of religion if we were to remove religion something else would take it's place but if we were to remove science it would just reappear exactly as it is. A glass is neither half full or half empty it's built with 100% excess capacity.

Of course.

Industries weren't existent then either. I am talking about the corruption between capitalism and the monetary system involved.

If you think about it. The value you put in monetary tools and objects of the world is not really there. Thus saying that ''How can you replace was never there to begin with?''

The glass is half-full and half-empty.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 21:56:27 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:44 PM, Shade wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:25 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Hippie bullshit
Get a haircut, take a shower, buy some real shoes and get a real job.

Nice presumption.

Do you overtly generalise often?

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:00:35 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:54 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Of course.

Industries weren't existent then either. I am talking about the corruption between capitalism and the monetary system involved.

If you think about it. The value you put in monetary tools and objects of the world is not really there. Thus saying that ''How can you replace was never there to begin with?''

The glass is half-full and half-empty.

The monetary system isn't corrupt since value is finite and objective. You could trade money for goods you'd just have a much harder time trading it with other people. Standardization of value isn't corrupt in fact it's using sun light as a disinfectant since everyone has to use the same scale for worth.

Capitalism, industry, physics, chemistry, biology, economics. They all have competing ideas on what's right and a null hypothesis to prove those ideas wrong that just simply hasn't existed yet. You can't call them wrong for failing to meet your wants in the same way you can't call a bird an endangered species due to it's inability to live underwater.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:01:24 Reply

>Implying Communism works, in an utopical society, communism would be the economy, but for communism to work, humans need to let aside stuff like greed and selfishness, which won't happen anytime soon.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:04:37 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:02 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: A star needs to be neither dim or bright.

We need to work together, and stop becoming brighter or dimmer than others.

What a communistic ideology.

However, "we are all orphans, and as orphans we are celebrities"


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:07:13 Reply

At 4/30/12 10:00 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:54 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Of course.

Industries weren't existent then either. I am talking about the corruption between capitalism and the monetary system involved.

If you think about it. The value you put in monetary tools and objects of the world is not really there. Thus saying that ''How can you replace was never there to begin with?''

The glass is half-full and half-empty.
The monetary system isn't corrupt since value is finite and objective. You could trade money for goods you'd just have a much harder time trading it with other people. Standardization of value isn't corrupt in fact it's using sun light as a disinfectant since everyone has to use the same scale for worth.

Capitalism, industry, physics, chemistry, biology, economics. They all have competing ideas on what's right and a null hypothesis to prove those ideas wrong that just simply hasn't existed yet. You can't call them wrong for failing to meet your wants in the same way you can't call a bird an endangered species due to it's inability to live underwater.

Value is subjective. How is it objective? Minerals in the ground are minerals in the ground. It is the socially accepted distinctive value of the mineral that gives it a false value.

Any time someone looks at an object of false value more importantly than some one with a life of their own, I will refer to that as corruption of all fundamental value.

The system is wrong; inflated; subjugated to greed and power; irrational; and short of human qualities. The industrial reality we live in is only prolonging the fundamental problem of people not knowing how to distinguish right from wrong.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:15:03 Reply

At 4/30/12 10:01 PM, CheapTrick wrote: >Implying Communism works, in an utopical society, communism would be the economy, but for communism to work, humans need to let aside stuff like greed and selfishness, which won't happen anytime soon.

I personally prefer if you did not deduce my ideologies into one vague category.

Thank you.

As for this utopical society, I highly disagree that this reality is ideal.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:18:19 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:07 PM, Narcissy wrote:
At 4/30/12 09:06 PM, bman200 wrote: Stars are made of gas and fire. I guess we all just fizzle out in the end.
Then become a big ass black hole and take everything around us with us.

This. I like this idea. That's how I wanna die. I wanna take others with me.


100% of people who drink water die... true story.

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At 4/30/12 10:07 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Value is subjective. How is it objective? Minerals in the ground are minerals in the ground. It is the socially accepted distinctive value of the mineral that gives it a false value.

Any time someone looks at an object of false value more importantly than some one with a life of their own, I will refer to that as corruption of all fundamental value.

The system is wrong; inflated; subjugated to greed and power; irrational; and short of human qualities. The industrial reality we live in is only prolonging the fundamental problem of people not knowing how to distinguish right from wrong.

Value is never subjective. You only perceive them as false because you don't want to admit capitalism is right. Everything including life has a finite value, how much of our needs and wants and for how long they are fulfilled gives them value. Money gives that value a number.

Call it corruption, I call it an argument in how much you believe it's worth. Every day we make decisions based on worth we just aren't aware of it because it's natural.

Greed is good, it fuels desire and desire creates more goods. The only right and wrong in the world is benefit or hinder ourselves.

We are all stars in an unknown sea.

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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:21:41 Reply

At 4/30/12 09:02 PM, ILove2Grok wrote: A star needs to be neither dim or bright.

We need to work together, and stop becoming brighter or dimmer than others.

Just realized who OP is.

Lol Pothead discussion.


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Response to We are all stars in an unknown sea. 2012-04-30 22:29:53 Reply

At 4/30/12 10:19 PM, ih8dude wrote:
At 4/30/12 10:07 PM, ILoveToGrok wrote: Value is subjective. How is it objective? Minerals in the ground are minerals in the ground. It is the socially accepted distinctive value of the mineral that gives it a false value.

Any time someone looks at an object of false value more importantly than some one with a life of their own, I will refer to that as corruption of all fundamental value.

The system is wrong; inflated; subjugated to greed and power; irrational; and short of human qualities. The industrial reality we live in is only prolonging the fundamental problem of people not knowing how to distinguish right from wrong.
Value is never subjective. You only perceive them as false because you don't want to admit capitalism is right. Everything including life has a finite value, how much of our needs and wants and for how long they are fulfilled gives them value. Money gives that value a number.

Call it corruption, I call it an argument in how much you believe it's worth. Every day we make decisions based on worth we just aren't aware of it because it's natural.

Greed is good, it fuels desire and desire creates more goods. The only right and wrong in the world is benefit or hinder ourselves.

Value is never objective. You have a twisted perception of reality. These materials are simply materials. We are the ones who gave it more of a purpose than it was simply for. Capitalism is wrong, for it is built on illusions you don't want to admit are illusions.

It isn't worth anything. The argument is X. X is spontanous. X has no conjecture behind it. The distinction of value was autonomously withheld.

Greed fuels a void that is never satisfied. That is a poorly subjective interpretation of morality.