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Tell a school counsellor or something

come on, you know you have to do something man

he already turned that bitch out

lmao she's going to be a ho forever

Just call the cops. It'll be more effective than anything else you can do and here's why. Say you just get the cops on his ass and he gets arrested, prosecuted and is found guilty of statutory rape of a minor. Then he has to register as a sex offender which in future is most likely going to ruin his life more effectively than any beat up you might be considering for him. If you get your friends or something and just go vigilante and beat him up, not only is he going to recover and even continue what he's been doing, but it'd only get you in deep shit too. But get him registered, after that he can't choose freely where to live because he can't live near any minors. Not to mention he won't be able to get that many jobs since some people are hesitant to hire criminals, especially sex offenders. So call the cops, preferably have evidence on him and watch the events unfold and ruin his life from the sidelines.

If you don't want to get anybody else involved you could just break his nose. Getting the police involved would be a better option though, maybe some boys in jail can show him what he has been doing to other people.

At 5/1/12 07:55 AM, Cootie wrote: If you don't want to get anybody else involved you could just break his nose. Getting the police involved would be a better option though, maybe some boys in jail can show him what he has been doing to other people.

cootie is bout dat life and will fuck up anyone

THIS IS A SRS ANSWER GUYS: Rape her.

Write things in a paper and get it to the police.

call a swat team

As I work in the school district I am required by law to report things like this, and I can understand you not wanting to go to the police. That said most states have laws that protect individuals who report certain stuff like this.

What the fuck? Call the police now. Why are you even asking us?

do want me and my friends did in this situation. get two other guy, some ski masks and send him a message. first a spoken one then if need be, you see where I am going with this

At 5/1/12 10:34 AM, bgraybr wrote: What the fuck? Call the police now. Why are you even asking us?

The police cant do anything unless she or her parent is willing to cooperate

Compile evidence. Whether it's witnesses, or photographs, or videos, or whatever. I mean, without anything to back up your claims, it could all go to shit. Both parties could easily deny those accusations, and without anything to substantiate your claims, your efforts could fall flat.

Before everyone jumps the gun, we need to establish what he means by forced. Given how he's been referring to everything, it seems more like another case of statutory rape instead of full blown rape. She sounds like another high school girl who ends up slutting it up and regrets it, yet still continues

I unno let her move into your house? You's gotta be there for her, I guess. Confrontation is hard, because it would only end up in strife which you don't seem to be prepared for. All you can do is be the better man, provide a better resolution. She is very young compared to this guy, so, you should remind her of that and how he could do terrible things to her life, like leaving her with a child, or giving her an STD. He's a bad apple obviously from what you described so I doubt he will listen to anything you have to say. Try to stay one step ahead of this guy. Constant vigilance.

Police interaction is a very effective way to make him back off, but I wouldn't do it unless the girl wanted you to. I wouldn't do that until you get her dad or some one with a sense of authority to inform him that if he doesn't leave her alone they will notify the authorities. Police can't always be there, some one close to her should be her support, not an invisible team of foot soldiers that operate in a beauocratic fashion. There's a good chance they could do nothing at all and the whole ordeal of the police could bring them closer together...

Get a few guys together and scare him off. Bring knives and bats and shit. And get the girl to shank him if he comes close again.

At 5/1/12 03:24 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Before everyone jumps the gun, we need to establish what he means by forced. Given how he's been referring to everything, it seems more like another case of statutory rape instead of full blown rape. She sounds like another high school girl who ends up slutting it up and regrets it, yet still continues

Yes she does. And if that's the case, there's not much that can be done unless the police actually catch them.

At 5/1/12 12:54 AM, VictorKorg wrote: This seems like the work of a troll, but I'll give you the benefit of doubt.

I give you my word this is serious.

First of all, you need physical proof of this guy caught redhanded (record/film it, the authorities will make good use of it.)

If I didn't live 60-odd miles away from where this is going on at, I'd be have a chance at doing that.

Second, you need a reliable witness(es) (any professor of your school or any adult who knows about this guy's profile and behavior and can give precise information.)

The school officials over in their area, along with the girl's mother knows about the guy and knows how much of a scumbag he is.

Third, make clear you need anonymity (there's nothing worse than a vengative asshole, make sure you are not directly involved with this guy. Protect your identity at all costs.)

Safety is not a concern of mine; I can hold my own.

At 5/1/12 04:47 AM, Halberd wrote: Tell a school counsellor or something

I'd love to contact their school and inform them of atleast something, but how the fuck do you even begin with something as... fucked up like this? " Yeah, some guy's getting really freaky with one of your 7th grade students. "

come on, you know you have to do something man

That's what I'm in the process of doing now.

At 5/1/12 01:21 AM, Austerity wrote: Call the cops, call cps, ect.

Planning on getting them involved, though I don't want her mother to get introuble. Yeah, she's doing a shit job at parenting, but her mom's also pretty young.

Her life and mind is forever ruined and she'll grow up to be a slut or prostitute, but at least you can get her help to get out of her immediate situation and possibly get that dude prosecuted or whatever.

I'm hoping that by booting this sick fuck away for a while, maybe she can get back on track and out of this crazy rut.

At 4/30/12 09:46 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Wait, I just re-read what you wrote. How much of this is quite literally forced, and how much of it is just coerced, and not intimidated or shit like that?

Some of it's strongly coerced, while the other things like shoving his fingers down her throat seem less... consensual.
Most of the time, she just keeps saying no to him, but sure enough, she breaks.

At 4/30/12 10:46 PM, mothballs wrote: Unless she's coming back to you with bumps and bruises, I bet it was consensual.

Mental abuse is just as bad. You can manipulate a girl into slobbering your knob without hitting her.

Either way they don't have much proof that he did anything so he may not get convicted, but you may scare him away and repel him away from your friend.

I was afraid of nothing would happen, but you're right. Even if he's not legally taken care of, the whole situation should be a subtle " Get away. "

At 5/1/12 12:01 AM, ghostxero wrote: i hope this isnt a bullshit story

True story.

i hate people who do this and can guarantee you that if u came to me with this IRL id beat the living shit out of the guy after i called the police then say he tripped and fell and dare him to tell the truth...

You would not believe the amount of frustration I have at not being able to pulpatize this guy.

At 5/1/12 12:15 AM, MrRager wrote:

At 4/30/12 10:46 PM, mothballs wrote: Unless she's coming back to you with bumps and bruises, I bet it was consensual.

Either way they don't have much proof that he did anything so he may not get convicted, but you may scare him away and repel him away from your friend.

Well he will come back eventually, they always do, he needs to stop him before he does.
And it's not exactly consensual, he is abusing her psychologically and sexually. And as OP said, she can't just leave him because she is experiencing Stockholm syndrome.
Your best bet is to just contact the police, get evidence somehow first, then report it. Give as many tips as you can, such as checking her teeth for stomach acid left on them. Try your best to convince her to confront her "boyfriend" and don't do anything rational on your own.

I've actually been saving the text conversations between me and her, so hopefully that will help...
I doubt stomach acid would still be present in her teeth this long after, unless the acid etches in deep.
And as you've pointed out and reinforce, she's emotionally attached to this guy, so she's trying to blame herself for all of this, rather than placing the blame where it should be.

I'll keep you guys updated if anything happends. Poozy is currently helping, so I feel a whole lot better having someone holding my hand throughout this.

At 5/1/12 02:56 AM, GoodFish wrote: Whoever is reading this thread at 8AM on May 1 should call the Pennsylvannia State Police:
(814) 938-0510

Give them the URL of the thread, be sure they have it loaded and written down, explain why you are reporting it, and tell them you want confirmation that it has been thoroughly investigated.

^ Not at all a bad idea.

Stop being timid and get the authorities involved with this?

Why are you being "timid" anyway? Stop that.

At 5/1/12 04:33 PM, bismuthfeldspar wrote: Why are you being "timid" anyway? Stop that.

low self-esteem and self-worth

fear of others

lack of confidence

abusive childhood

maybe one of these and maybe not!

What is your relationship with this girl? How long have you known her, where did you meet her, and do you/have you been romantically involved before? How close are you? It looks like this situation would be best handled by you talking to her, since even if you got rid of this guy, a mental complex like the one she has will drive her to find another guy with the same traits. Knowing your relationship with her will help let us know what tools you have, or just how seriously you can talk to her about this.

At 5/1/12 04:23 PM, 111122223138 wrote: Planning on getting them involved, though I don't want her mother to get introuble. Yeah, she's doing a shit job at parenting, but her mom's also pretty young.

Good call on this. If you're doing this for her, then you have to be gentle. With a situation like this, she's probably seeking some kind of security. And of course, just leaving the guy would jeopardize that security in her mind. And she might be right about that, if this guy is dangerous. Is he?

Some of it's strongly coerced, while the other things like shoving his fingers down her throat seem less... consensual.
Most of the time, she just keeps saying no to him, but sure enough, she breaks.

You should probably give this girl some statistics on this kind of stuff, and how it only gets worse. Also propose the idea of what it would be like if she were manipulating a guy; challenge her to imagine the mindset of someone who is coercing her into these acts.

You would not believe the amount of frustration I have at not being able to pulpatize this guy.

As someone who has consistently failed to protect others, I can sympathize here.

And as you've pointed out and reinforce, she's emotionally attached to this guy, so she's trying to blame herself for all of this, rather than placing the blame where it should be.

If I ever rewrote the ten commandments, one of them would be to murder anyone whom you both love and fear. The two feelings create a very dangerous combination. Although I don't need to tell you that.

I don't know if you like the idea of playing psychologist, but if you can give this girl a serious talk, you need to drill deep into her mind, wrench out a bunch of insecurities and complexes, and hand them to her for dissection. This kind of insecurity isn't exactly easy to deal with; she may be 14, but this is the kind of stuff that sticks with people their whole lives.

^ Not at all a bad idea.

Yeah, I recommend this.

Call the fucking police. That's all you have to do.

At 4/30/12 08:57 PM, 111122223138 wrote: I'm very, very timid about getting authorities involed with this.

Please know that it is a FEDERAL CRIME for anyone over the age of 18 to engage in sexual conduct with someone below the federal age of consent. What this guy is engaging in is STATUTORY RAPE.

Please also know that, in your position, you are withholding information about a federal crime from the police. That itself could lead to YOU getting in trouble.

Do yourself and your friend a favor. Call the police or go into the local police station. Ask to remain anonymous, but tell them that you suspect something is going on. As it is a federal crime you are reporting, they will take it seriously and they will likely set up a trap or surveillance to catch this guy in the act.

Being timid is not an excuse or a reason for letting another individual get hurt. Especially something as serious as this.

At 5/1/12 09:52 AM, tox wrote:

step 3: go find her and sit her down and wait for further action by the authorities and request from her that she request that you be present through this ordeal that they will put her though, so that you and she can have someone that you both trust
step 4: make sure that his friends know to not allow the 18 year old to go near the girl, and tell her friends to not allow the male to go near her either, if they ask there are legal issues and the police are involved and that you insist that you need their help to keep him away from her

Actually I would advise not going out to find her immediately. The police might not want you to interfere as it can be an extremely long amount of time before an arrest if any is made.

At 5/1/12 08:12 PM, Zullzee wrote: 14 and in 7th grade, did she get held back a year? And how do you know this girl if you live 60 miles away from her and in high school while she's still in middle school?

Possibly. She went to a school in my area two years ago and rode my bus, so I got to know her from there. I've pretty much been her go-to-guy about any and all her problems.

At 5/1/12 04:49 PM, Kwing wrote: What is your relationship with this girl?

Her unofficial guardian since her parents don't do their jobs of being parents.

How long have you known her, where did you meet her, and do you/have you been romantically involved before?

Answered above, but no, I haven't been involved with her romantically.

How close are you? It looks like this situation would be best handled by you talking to her, since even if you got rid of this guy, a mental complex like the one she has will drive her to find another guy with the same traits. Knowing your relationship with her will help let us know what tools you have, or just how seriously you can talk to her about this.

We're pretty good friends. She trusts me and knows I do my best to help her from messing up. I've been talking to her more recently and I'm starting to make progress with the situation. She's accepted that it's very wrong and that getting outside-help involved in neccesary.

At 5/1/12 04:23 PM, 111122223138 wrote: Planning on getting them involved, though I don't want her mother to get introuble. Yeah, she's doing a shit job at parenting, but her mom's also pretty young.

Good call on this. If you're doing this for her, then you have to be gentle. With a situation like this, she's probably seeking some kind of security. And of course, just leaving the guy would jeopardize that security in her mind. And she might be right about that, if this guy is dangerous. Is he?

He's got a very strange behavior about him, he's demanding with what he wants, and he's not at all a level headed person, so I consider him dangerous.

Some of it's strongly coerced, while the other things like shoving his fingers down her throat seem less... consensual.
Most of the time, she just keeps saying no to him, but sure enough, she breaks.

You should probably give this girl some statistics on this kind of stuff, and how it only gets worse. Also propose the idea of what it would be like if she were manipulating a guy; challenge her to imagine the mindset of someone who is coercing her into these acts.

I've been over this with her, about how it'll only get worse because I've been there to see it get worse.
She's not equipped with the strongest CPU, so I think the swap would just confuse her.

You would not believe the amount of frustration I have at not being able to pulpatize this guy.

As someone who has consistently failed to protect others, I can sympathize here.

Amen.

And as you've pointed out and reinforce, she's emotionally attached to this guy, so she's trying to blame herself for all of this, rather than placing the blame where it should be.

If I ever rewrote the ten commandments, one of them would be to murder anyone whom you both love and fear. The two feelings create a very dangerous combination. Although I don't need to tell you that.

I don't know if you like the idea of playing psychologist, but if you can give this girl a serious talk, you need to drill deep into her mind, wrench out a bunch of insecurities and complexes, and hand them to her for dissection. This kind of insecurity isn't exactly easy to deal with; she may be 14, but this is the kind of stuff that sticks with people their whole lives.

^ Not at all a bad idea.

Yeah, I recommend this.

I consider myself a very novice psychologist, and I don't mind playing it. I've been getting to her, but a lot of the time she doesn't have answers for the qustions I ask, or just replies with " Oh... " or " I don't know... "

So OP. It's been a couple days. What have you done?

At 5/1/12 10:48 PM, 111122223138 wrote: He's got a very strange behavior about him, he's demanding with what he wants, and he's not at all a level headed person, so I consider him dangerous.

How well do you know him personally? Does he know about your motivations, or that you don't like him?

She's not equipped with the strongest CPU, so I think the swap would just confuse her.

Well, this is a decision she has to make. Again, this guy isn't really that important right now. Even a 'novice psychologist' should recognize that unless she undergoes some kind of change, she's bound to run into this same situation over and over. Unfortunately, something pretty awful may have to happen before that change occurs. Or perhaps it never will. I assume this girl is your average insecure, shy, somewhat downtrodden teenager who's a sucker for signs of approval?

I consider myself a very novice psychologist, and I don't mind playing it. I've been getting to her, but a lot of the time she doesn't have answers for the qustions I ask, or just replies with " Oh... " or " I don't know... "

That sounds awfully familiar. Unless she has a very strong ability to visualize situations, it might be almost impossible for her to grasp the gravity of the situation. Either way, it looks like she could use a safety net of friends giving her support and giving her their takes on the situation, and you can only provide one other perspective. Do her friends share similar concerns as you?