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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 11th, 2012 @ 11:40 PM Reply

At 5/11/12 11:35 PM, Template88 wrote: If i might offer my opinion...

It looks to me like you are trying to cover up your weaknesses in anatomy and proportion with fancy details and clothing. This will not fool people who know what a human body actually looks like. I would if I were you go back to the basics of proportion and anatomy and work from the ground up again. THEN you add the details once your foundation is worth adding details to.

Good luck.

I did do some anatomy work under those clothes, but yes I still have to improve it, and maybe I should have shown the version without the clothes. My known anatomical mistakes are that the arms are too short, hands too small ( and hands overall give me trouble ), legs are just overall usually wrong, I'm just starting to work on those, and the hips are very often too thin or too wide.
Also, my clothes are just as bad as my anatomy, I hide all of those beneath armor which is about the only thing I got going for me very well right now.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 11th, 2012 @ 11:52 PM Reply

Summer's coming, I'll get some work done on anatomy. Like I said before, two weeks ago I couldn't draw legs for my life. What I've got now is a considerable improvement, and I will continue to improve.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 03:53 PM Reply

At 5/11/12 11:52 PM, PatBest22 wrote: Summer's coming, I'll get some work done on anatomy. Like I said before, two weeks ago I couldn't draw legs for my life. What I've got now is a considerable improvement, and I will continue to improve.

Alright so I went outside, sat on a rock with my cat and did a little but of anatomy. Improvement is apparent but there are still flaws that need to be improved.
Namely, now that I see it on screen, the figure on the left's left breast is off, and the figure on the right is leaning to the left, which is a mistake I commonly do.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 03:58 PM Reply

You're so good at drawing bodies! XD
Ever thought of doing a tutorial? I'd definitely use it :D

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:00 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 03:58 PM, BeckyRawr wrote: You're so good at drawing bodies! XD
Ever thought of doing a tutorial? I'd definitely use it :D

I'm still in the learning process, there are better people on these very forums to do such a thing, like Template in his "Have Art, will travel" thread.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:05 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 04:00 PM, PatBest22 wrote:
At 5/12/12 03:58 PM, BeckyRawr wrote: You're so good at drawing bodies! XD
Ever thought of doing a tutorial? I'd definitely use it :D
I'm still in the learning process, there are better people on these very forums to do such a thing, like Template in his "Have Art, will travel" thread.

Well you're a billion percent better than me :[
I'm going to start drawing bodies from different references. AND I SHALL IMPROVE! I SWEAR!

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:07 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 04:05 PM, BeckyRawr wrote:
At 5/12/12 04:00 PM, PatBest22 wrote:
At 5/12/12 03:58 PM, BeckyRawr wrote: You're so good at drawing bodies! XD
Ever thought of doing a tutorial? I'd definitely use it :D
I'm still in the learning process, there are better people on these very forums to do such a thing, like Template in his "Have Art, will travel" thread.
Well you're a billion percent better than me :[
I'm going to start drawing bodies from different references. AND I SHALL IMPROVE! I SWEAR!

I could give you an idea of how I go about it, but not right now I'm about to leave for supper at my mother's house.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:08 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 04:07 PM, PatBest22 wrote:
I could give you an idea of how I go about it, but not right now I'm about to leave for supper at my mother's house.

That would be amazing! Thank you ^_^

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:11 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 04:08 PM, BeckyRawr wrote:
At 5/12/12 04:07 PM, PatBest22 wrote:
I could give you an idea of how I go about it, but not right now I'm about to leave for supper at my mother's house.
That would be amazing! Thank you ^_^

I'm gonna tell you right now though, there is a direct link between the armor suits I draw and the anatomy I draw.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 04:20 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 04:11 PM, PatBest22 wrote:

I'm gonna tell you right now though, there is a direct link between the armor suits I draw and the anatomy I draw.

I'm looking forward to you sharing your wisdom O wise one XD

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 12th, 2012 @ 11:56 PM Reply

At 5/12/12 03:53 PM, PatBest22 wrote:
Namely, now that I see it on screen, the figure on the left's left breast is off, and the figure on the right is leaning to the left, which is a mistake I commonly do.

I'm not so sure about the hips, they don't look muscular enough to my taste, looks more like fat...
Not acceptable.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 13th, 2012 @ 03:05 AM Reply

More than just working on anatomy, gotta be able to use it in more than just a static normal standing pose.

3 Am, the best time to draw, either because your mind is already dreaming and full of inspiration or because your brain is half asleep and you can't tell you're doing it wrong!

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 01:19 AM Reply

Still trying to move away from manga influences, working on my main character's face to make it look less... well less manga like. Now I'm encountering a problem, do I give her a muscular jaw or keep a thinner jaw similar to the manga style?
HRRRRRNG- can't decide.
Will think about it tomorrow.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 01:23 AM Reply

On a side note, I find the Kill Bill movies, as well as the video game WET inspirational for a more american drawing style...

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 01:37 AM Reply

At 5/14/12 01:19 AM, PatBest22 wrote: Still trying to move away from manga influences, working on my main character's face to make it look less... well less manga like. Now I'm encountering a problem, do I give her a muscular jaw or keep a thinner jaw similar to the manga style?
HRRRRRNG- can't decide.
Will think about it tomorrow.

NOPE thought about it tonight - or rather this morning - slight rearrangement of the features and a bit of work on the jaw and I am pleased with the result!

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 08:11 AM Reply

At 5/14/12 01:37 AM, PatBest22 wrote:
At 5/14/12 01:19 AM, PatBest22 wrote: Still trying to move away from manga influences, working on my main character's face to make it look less... well less manga like. Now I'm encountering a problem, do I give her a muscular jaw or keep a thinner jaw similar to the manga style?
HRRRRRNG- can't decide.
Will think about it tomorrow.
NOPE thought about it tonight - or rather this morning - slight rearrangement of the features and a bit of work on the jaw and I am pleased with the result!

Yea, even though the thinner jaw is manga style, it is how the femine body looks like, meaning the more thin the jaw is, the more femine the person looks like. I mean, all of the male heros ar representer with a wide chin, sometimes it's sticking out really much, but the female heros otherwise have thin, pointy chins, making their facial expressions more femine. So yes, it is a good decision.


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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 10:48 AM Reply

At 5/14/12 08:11 AM, NiteCrow wrote:

Yea, even though the thinner jaw is manga style, it is how the femine body looks like, meaning the more thin the jaw is, the more femine the person looks like. I mean, all of the male heros ar representer with a wide chin, sometimes it's sticking out really much, but the female heros otherwise have thin, pointy chins, making their facial expressions more femine. So yes, it is a good decision.

And yet some women have bigger jaws like the one in the first drawing and it's still feminine. To me, it just looks... older.
The face in the first drawing could be in her mid 30's early 40's, while the one in the second drawing looks to be more in her early 20's.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 09:29 PM Reply

Since the ending in Mass Effect 3 sucked balls, I think I'll be spending the second half of the week making a short comic presenting a much more epic ending...

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 10:09 PM Reply

I don't get the hubub and whiny people complaining about mass effect three's ending, I thought it was a well thought epic ending fit for such a great series

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 14th, 2012 @ 10:49 PM Reply

At 5/14/12 10:09 PM, EnactJudo wrote: I don't get the hubub and whiny people complaining about mass effect three's ending, I thought it was a well thought epic ending fit for such a great series

Everyone just wants the option to - SPOILER ALERT - punch the catalyst in the face and beat the Reapers into atomic dust.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 16th, 2012 @ 08:18 PM Reply

So yeah, mass effect comic, coming maybe.

Background is obviously not my work.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 16th, 2012 @ 08:42 PM Reply

You're the best, PatBest!

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 16th, 2012 @ 08:54 PM Reply

At 5/14/12 01:37 AM, PatBest22 wrote:
At 5/14/12 01:19 AM, PatBest22 wrote: Still trying to move away from manga influences, working on my main character's face to make it look less... well less manga like. Now I'm encountering a problem, do I give her a muscular jaw or keep a thinner jaw similar to the manga style?
HRRRRRNG- can't decide.
Will think about it tomorrow.
NOPE thought about it tonight - or rather this morning - slight rearrangement of the features and a bit of work on the jaw and I am pleased with the result!

I like this face a lot, you should continue on it. Also on the topic of strong jaws, I personally think a strong jaw can be sexy. Olivia Wilde is a good example.
[/img]http://karlasugar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Olivi a-Wilde-Golden-Globes.jpg[img]

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 16th, 2012 @ 08:59 PM Reply

At 5/16/12 08:54 PM, bigCman321 wrote:
I like this face a lot, you should continue on it. Also on the topic of strong jaws, I personally think a strong jaw can be sexy. Olivia Wilde is a good example.
[/img]http://karlasugar.net/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/Olivi a-Wilde-Golden-Globes.jpg[img]

Oh there's no doubt a strong jaw can be sexy on the right woman, I'm just not sure I want one on this character. I'm not sure it represents her correctly as opposed to a thinner, pointier jaw.

Also, I will definitely continue with that face.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 27th, 2012 @ 01:44 AM Reply

...having been absent from these forums for over a week I started working on a RAWR I'M BACK piece when my tablet crapped out on me.

The cursor no longer follows the pen tip and none of the buttons respond when I press them.

Obviously I will be consulting the help and information pages on the product website but this forum is filled with people who use tablets and may have encountered this before and may know a solution. It's a Cintiq 24HD, if that's relevant.

Now I'm off to restart my computer to see if that does anything.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 27th, 2012 @ 01:53 AM Reply

Nevermind, computer restart did the trick. Software problem relative to my PC then, not the Tablet.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 30th, 2012 @ 10:29 PM Reply

Did stuff to keep my skills up to speed, not exactly what I had planned but here it is WIP.

Legs and hands still giving me trouble. Now that I look at it, the right hand seems much too small even as a closed fist.

Shading will be done later.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. May. 30th, 2012 @ 10:38 PM Reply

At 5/30/12 10:29 PM, PatBest22 wrote: Did stuff to keep my skills up to speed, not exactly what I had planned but here it is WIP.

Legs and hands still giving me trouble. Now that I look at it, the right hand seems much too small even as a closed fist.

Shading will be done later.

Looking at it now, the legs seem too small, the cheekbone is too large and the jaw is off.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. Jun. 1st, 2012 @ 12:41 PM Reply

Did that shading today, while also fixing ( or trying to fix ) the problems I noted before.

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Response to Pat's drawings - feedback wanted. Jun. 5th, 2012 @ 08:08 PM Reply

This is a WIP, to be part of a larger drawing. I'd really appreciate anyone pointing out flaws in the current anatomy before I put any more work into it, like put clothes, hair and color over it all and it becomes much more difficult to fix.

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