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Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 10:12 PM Reply

~We all know that the economy is bad.
~We also know most people have to take student loans for college and have a tough time finding work after college, as well as paying them back.
~Many people argue that American businesses should not be outsourcing their manufacturing jobs to foreign nations, and that the jobs should be brought to America.
~America is known for corporations playing one of the most significant roles in it's economy. Most students I know see themselves getting into business as adults.

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Should the United States' government encourage students to study trades and manufacturing, lower the costs of trade schools, and perhaps even offer federal scholarships to students? Perhaps some state governments should?

Why? I find that many people I see that get into business, AMONG OTHER THINGS, do it because their parents are in it so they sorta know what it's like, or they figure there are good opportunities in it, or they figure they'll be good at it and make a decent living, or other miscellaneous reasons. Of course that's not what the majority of people are doing, but still, there's a lot of them. And there sure are a lot of people dealing with student loans for a even decades after receiving a higher education.
I think if the government does encourage students to study trade and lower cost and etc, and perhaps even put tariffs on sending jobs over-seas, then students that are educated with a trade (welding, construction, etc) will have an easier time finding work and dealing with student loans, if any.

I understand that the reasons many corporations are so big is because they pay foreign workers very small wages and sell their products for high prices. MAJOR PROFITS. That's why their factories are in China, as well as other nations. I would imagine that in the event a tariff is made large enough that many corporations decide it's better to move factories to America, or if some law is passed to limit outsourced jobs, they would pay workers at least minimum wage ($7.25 last I checked). This is a pretty low salary to live on or at least start with, but one won't have to spend as long or maybe even as much money paying student loans back than if one went to a typical university or college. Also, again, trade students would have an easier time finding work, and if they work hard enough, maybe make a good salary.

Just something I was pondering.

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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 10:17 PM Reply

Yeah they should.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 10:42 PM Reply

At 4/26/12 10:24 PM, Travis wrote: All forms of college should be cheaper.

Well yeah, of course. But people would be more persuaded if trade schools were the better financial option. Then again, there would probably be some protests to make all higher-learning institutions cheaper. I think the government should at least be putting more emphasis on young people to get into trade schools.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 10:44 PM Reply

Every citizen in a developed country should be entitled to a free education. I'm Australian and we have to pay about half of our tertiary student costs back with government loans, policy put in place by politicians that received a free education. This is wrong, full credit to the UK students for rioting a change that would essentially make them pay a third of what we do. Not only should you be free to study, but free to study what you wish, even if it doesn't pertain to future employment.... with some conditions about a students longevity of course. Tertiary education in the US scares me, it's classist and doesn't afford equal rights to the poor that might not be able to afford a semester's tuition at an Ivy League school. This perpetually sustains the class system. All Education should be free, the benefits not only to taxation is there to see. Socialism is not a dirty word.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 11:04 PM Reply

At 4/26/12 10:44 PM, Jesse-Ray wrote

No they should not. Sorry but people should be forced to pay to go to school its a privelege not a right.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 11:06 PM Reply

Where have you been?

I didn't read almost all of that.
But I don't think they are very expensive and grants are easy to get.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 11:25 PM Reply

At 4/26/12 11:04 PM, ToddM wrote: No they should not. Sorry but people should be forced to pay to go to school its a privelege not a right.

Why should a student from a poor family forgo the privileges of the rich who might have a college fund ready at his birth. It's just classist. I'm from a poor family, my parents would not have been able to afford my tertiary tuition. Luckily I get to take a government loan that funds my education that I only have to pay when I'm earning enough. What's more is I get paid bare minimum wage to study full time and I get my books paid. In the long run the average earning for my degree at the moment are 88,000. In not much time I will be able to pay off my loan (half the cost of my tuition is paid by the government) and I will be paying taxes above the average that will more than pay my study allowance and any government subsidy. All this from a guy from a family that once lived on 30K a year.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 11:25 PM Reply

At 4/26/12 11:06 PM, Sensationalism wrote: Where have you been?

I didn't read almost all of that.
But I don't think they are very expensive and grants are easy to get.

Like I said, it was just something I was pondering. I'm not sure how expensive they are. But still, I think there should be more encouragement to pursue a career in that field.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 26th, 2012 @ 11:30 PM Reply

At 4/26/12 11:25 PM, Jesse-Ray wrote:

You do realize there is fiancial aid and community colleges that do teach trades much cheaper than universities.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 12:01 AM Reply

At 4/26/12 11:30 PM, ToddM wrote:
At 4/26/12 11:25 PM, Jesse-Ray wrote:
You do realize there is fiancial aid and community colleges that do teach trades much cheaper than universities.

Cheaper is not free, nor should a student's financial background account for the credibility of his school and course, only academic merit.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 12:33 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 12:01 AM, Jesse-Ray wrote:

Cheaper is not free, nor should a student's financial background account for the credibility of his school and course, only academic merit.

Not all schools are good enough to have academic merit. Most of those kids don't even like school. I have an example in my town kids look at education as a bad thing and see welfare as a good thing.

You can get aid if you go the extra mile in a poor school or fiancially poor. It is about merit.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 12:41 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 12:33 AM, ToddM wrote: Not all schools are good enough to have academic merit. Most of those kids don't even like school. I have an example in my town kids look at education as a bad thing and see welfare as a good thing.

You can get aid if you go the extra mile in a poor school or fiancially poor. It is about merit.

Tertiary education is optional, why in a society where education is privately paid for would a student spemd money studying something he doesn't care about?

This doesn't really address my point in that education should be open and free.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 12:51 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 12:41 AM, Jesse-Ray wrote:

This doesn't really address my point in that education should be open and free.

You should go to the politics forum they have a better answer to your question.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 01:03 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 12:51 AM, ToddM wrote: You should go to the politics forum they have a better answer to your question.

The issue was raised here. Germany is an excellent case study, almost all of their education is funded and as a result they have a healthy economy built on it's engineering and manufacturing skills acquired through a strong virtually priceless tertiary education system. A friend of mine currently lives in Munster which is predominately a student city. The German government even helps assist him with his study abroad with a cheap education and a ton of student schemes being thrown at him.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 01:09 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 01:03 AM, Jesse-Ray wrote:

What part did you not understand that this topic should go over to politics.

I'm done responding to your questions.


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Response to Should Us Trade Schools Be Cheaper? Apr. 27th, 2012 @ 02:08 AM Reply

At 4/27/12 01:09 AM, ToddM wrote:
At 4/27/12 01:03 AM, Jesse-Ray wrote:
What part did you not understand that this topic should go over to politics.

I'm done responding to your questions.

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