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Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:03:14 Reply

So over a year ago, a San Francisco 18-year-old shot and wounded a pregnant young lady outside a movie theater in self-defense. Andrew Covarrubias, the suspect, said he felt threatened because the woman was trying to pick a fight with him after he bumped into her outside the movie theater and refused to say excuse me, and then Andrew said he felt threatened and shot the woman. The woman had to deliver her baby premature as a result of the shooting.

Last summer, Andrew was sentenced to over five years in prison for the shooting.

Using this incident as an example, do you think people should use their handguns if they feel threatened in as easy as a situation as if a young woman tries to pick a fight with them but does not even fight the other party yet? Was Andrew's reason for shooting the young pregnant woman acceptable? For example, like the Trayvon case where he was shot because he was alleged to have attacked the shooter, and that's just a whole another controversial event.

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:06:14 Reply

Man...people are paranoid these days


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:08:41 Reply

That's dumb as shit.

If someone's attacking you it shouldn't matter if they're pregnant or not, your life is in danger, but this asshole over here shot the woman just because she was rude and he somehow saw it as hostility.

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:32:07 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:31 PM, Travis wrote: San Francisco....

Eddy, I personally think killing is wrong, but I also think the fact that you make the same topics all of the time is also wrong.

Killing is wrong even if it's self-defense?

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:35:37 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:32 PM, IAmCrystalHeights wrote:
Killing is wrong even if it's self-defense?

You got to watch them pregnant women, They'll kill you as soon as a you look away.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:41:24 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:32 PM, IAmCrystalHeights wrote:
At 4/24/12 04:31 PM, Travis wrote: San Francisco....

Eddy, I personally think killing is wrong, but I also think the fact that you make the same topics all of the time is also wrong.
Killing is wrong even if it's self-defense?

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:43:54 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:35 PM, Heretic-Anchorite wrote:
At 4/24/12 04:32 PM, IAmCrystalHeights wrote:
Killing is wrong even if it's self-defense?
You got to watch them pregnant women, They'll kill you as soon as a you look away.

They're murdering for two, you know.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:46:18 Reply

ITT: People talking about killing yet no-one has died.

I think that he deserved the sentence. From the information in the article all that I've gathered is that a woman bumped into him by accident. Had there been any aggression coming from her things would be different, but it appears that he just felt like shooting someone for whatever reason, which miraculously didn't result in a casualty.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:53:49 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:03 PM, IAmCrystalHeights wrote: For example, like the Trayvon case where he was shot because he was alleged to have attacked the shooter, and that's just a whole another controversial event.

Also, I like how you're comparing two completely different scenarios. If we were to believe that Zimmerman was attacked as he said he was, using a lethal weapon against Trevon is understandable even though the reason that led to the confrontation was a mistake. Do not compare that to a guy who shot someone for bumping into them by accident.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 16:56:24 Reply

She was pregnant. What would she do?


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:06:00 Reply

well I can understand she was threatening to fight, pregnant women can be vicious from what I hear but I also hear women can just be bitches.

although, could this guy not run away from a pregnant lady??? If he was some lardass who couldnt move or she grabbed him and pushed him over at some point then fair enough but still.

like, could he have used mace spray, a taser or AT LEAST didnt shoot her but instead pulled the gun out and told her too back off.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:18:31 Reply

Fucking piece of shit asshole motherfucker. Who the fuck shoot a pregnant lady for FUCKING!!!! UGH!!! WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU JUST NOT SAY EXCUSE ME??? IS THAT SO FUCKING HARD! WHAT DO YOU HAVE TOO MUCH PRIDE? WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU HAVE TO BE PROUD ABOUT!!!!! AHHHHHHHHHH!!! IM SO FUCKING PISSED! *sigh*

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:25:49 Reply

At 4/24/12 04:35 PM, Heretic-Anchorite wrote:
At 4/24/12 04:32 PM, IAmCrystalHeights wrote:
Killing is wrong even if it's self-defense?
You got to watch them pregnant women, They'll kill you as soon as a you look away.
At 4/24/12 04:56 PM, Zineth78 wrote: She was pregnant. What would she do?

It was San Francisco, she could have been one of those dumb gangster sluts who gets knocked up. You know, the type who would put their kids in a "Daddy's not in my life" onesy. Bitch could've stabbed him dead.

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:26:02 Reply

I would have given him 10 years.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:26:44 Reply

At 4/24/12 05:26 PM, Fragment wrote: I would have given him 10 years.

I would give him fucking 50.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:27:49 Reply

Bah. It could go either way.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:31:02 Reply

At 4/24/12 05:26 PM, SSPBourne wrote:
At 4/24/12 05:26 PM, Fragment wrote: I would have given him 10 years.
I would give him fucking 50.

I see where you're coming from. But actually, for these assholes the biggest punishment would be to take away their precious guns. It'd be as emasculating as chopping his dick off and injecting him with estrogen.

How the fuck does it not go through their minds "holy shit, I'm firing a fucking gun. It's like they forget these things are designed to kill/seriously injure people.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:37:49 Reply

At 4/24/12 05:31 PM, Fragment wrote:
At 4/24/12 05:26 PM, SSPBourne wrote:
At 4/24/12 05:26 PM, Fragment wrote: I would have given him 10 years.
I would give him fucking 50.
I see where you're coming from. But actually, for these assholes the biggest punishment would be to take away their precious guns. It'd be as emasculating as chopping his dick off and injecting him with estrogen.

Yes! Yes! That is exactly what he deserves. Fucking dumbass. Thanks man. And I mean the chopping of his dick. He doesn't deserve one.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:50:41 Reply

Guns and paranoia are always getting ppl shot


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 17:51:53 Reply

At 4/24/12 05:06 PM, MrPercie wrote: well I can understand she was threatening to fight, pregnant women can be vicious from what I hear but I also hear women can just be bitches.

You would a shoot a woman if she was threatening to fight you?

I wouldn't shoot a man for that, unless he was brandishing a weapon of some sort or I had reason to believe he would try and kill me.

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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 18:49:38 Reply

At 4/24/12 05:51 PM, bgraybr wrote: You would a shoot a woman if she was threatening to fight you?

you missed the part where I said he should have shot her so quickly, I mean, at least present the weapon when you feel threatend before you start shooting so everyone knows not to mess with yer.


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Response to Was This Act Justified? 2012-04-24 18:56:45 Reply

Well this is people in the world today, always so fucking gun jumpy and trigger happy. Besides what is a pregnant woman going to do to hurt a guy? Is she going to fail at punching him and fall over and crush her baby, because that most likely would have been the outcome if gun-totin' Joe hadn't shot her.


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