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it really amazes me that the liberals on Newgrounds (and in general) live in a fantasy world in their own minds that life by the border is all grand and dandy and the illegals just come here, work hard and quote on quote "do the jobs Americans don't want to do"

HEY LIBERALS, that is not how it works, AT ALL. First off, lets point to the drug cartels, as a result of all these illegals coming in, it is getting very harder to stop the drug war from spilling into the USA too. Already drug smugglers are crossing the border and going as far as New England. But then again, many NG users are druggies.

Lets focus on the high crime rate, remember in the news of the 5 year old girl who was raped by an illegal immigrant? Sure, liberal logic dictates that "rape will happen no matter what" but you fail to realize the crime rate among illegal aliens is very high for reasons like identity theft, sexual crimes, etc.

And my favorite "they do the jobs Americans don't want to do." Americans CAN do the job if they paid more than one fucking dollar per hour. You see, liberals have a hard time factoring in reality, they are emotional-driven, not factual driven. The purpose of a business is to make money, so why hire Americans when you can just crush the wages down a lot and hire illegal aliens? There are many Americans who can work on farms if we didn't have illegals suppressing the wages.

Illegal aliens demonstrate to go to college with in state tuition, they demand the ability to vote, these parasites BROKE IMMIGRATION laws and then demand that you cater them, and yet you bleeding heart liberal morons do so anyways. And don't even get me started on how illegals avoid paying taxes.

California is going bankrupt having to pay billions for anchor babies, but hey, liberal logic says "we have infinite money, lets invite the whole world into the USA"

At 4/18/12 06:07 PM, Complete wrote: liberals
live in a fantasy world
LIBERALS
many NG users are druggies.
liberal logic
liberals have a hard time factoring in reality
bleeding heart liberal morons
California is going bankrupt having to pay billions for anchor babies
liberal logic

Those are some rather bold generalizations.

At 4/18/12 06:15 PM, bgraybr wrote:

At 4/18/12 06:07 PM, Complete wrote: liberals
live in a fantasy world
LIBERALS
many NG users are druggies.
liberal logic
liberals have a hard time factoring in reality
bleeding heart liberal morons
California is going bankrupt having to pay billions for anchor babies
liberal logic

Those are some rather bold generalizations.

They are truths, out of all the political beliefs I ever encountered, modern liberalism by far is the most illogical, ridiculous one to date.

At 4/18/12 04:58 AM, Solisio wrote: Do you think illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay in America?

only if they are genuinely trying their hardest to become legal and contribute to our society, including giving what they should owe in tax.

Do you think that illegal immigrants should be allowed to vote?

only after they become a legitimate, legal citizen.

Do you feel that it is too difficult to legally become a U.S. citizen?

Well, a friend of mine has a stepfather who came here illegally back in the 90's and worked hard to become a legal citizen. He just became legal like a year or two ago. He's a responsible business owner who pays what he owes and takes care of his wife and kids.

You've picked a bad time to come to America, Mexican. We'll see your remains are returned to Marrow- I mean Mexico.

reference

At 4/18/12 03:47 PM, bgraybr wrote:

At 4/18/12 03:42 PM, davohsaurus wrote: Stop thinking that people here illegally are helping our economy. They pay no taxes, mostly send the money back home (admirable, but still hurting more people in the long run), and they DO indeed take jobs away from people.

I agree but what makes you think that people here deserve jobs more than they do? If they work for less, more people will want them to work. That's basic capitalism for you.

I see what you're saying, but there is minimum wage, and you don't have to pay an illegal immigrant minimum wage. It's an undercut that you can't beat. I don't think, though, that this undercutting affects MOST of the people complaining about it. At least not in my area. I can't speak for devohsaurus or that other guy (sorry, I can't remember your name, but you know who you are lol).

Awesome.

why the fuck would you support people who enter your country and don't pay taxes, and apparently receive benefits. they do shitty jobs yeah. but some people are willing to do those too, including non illegal immigrants, but they would require fair pay.

i don't understand why people get uppity about illegal immigrants. they aren't citizens they don't have any right to live here. i cannot just walk into a country and decide i live there.

Hardened Gun Laws. Yes. And I'm not talking about taking all your guns away, making it to where you can only own so many guns, etc. etc. I'm talking about gun shows with private sellers that sell ak's and what not with no background checks, no ID, nothing. When Mexican gun catels are offering $5k for ak's no questions asked, that's a problem.

lol no. gun control doesn't work and background checks are done at the door of the building. also the ak rifles you see are semi automatic aks, and while they can be converted to full auto if you can obtain the parts you have to do it correctly. the politicians claiming they get their rifles here and claiming they are buying "assault weapons" are just putting out bullshit propaganda. check out the old assault weapons ban which my state still has, and check out the fast and furious scandal. the ATF needs to crack down on crime guns, not civillian firearms for once.