At 4/11/12 08:27 PM, CritcalOne wrote:
Still. He killed a person. How hard is it to shove him off or threaten to shoot? He couldn't get him to back off, but he could of shot him. Sounds like bullshit that Zimmerman was totally "helpless". I dont care if he was Arnold Schw.. or some 4 year old, it's extreme to shoot someone to death. One shot is cool, killing him is something else.
You've never had somebody in a full mount before have you? Trained MMA fighters have problems getting people off of them if they end up in one. And those trained fighters aren't overweight untrained men. You can easily have full use of your arms, but without leverage, you're not lifting them off of you unless you're extremely fucking strong, and that's assuming they aren't actively pounding your head. One shot is cool? You just proved you know absolutely nothing about guns, gun safety, gun training, how guns work, this case or the use of guns.
In the end, he killed a person. He gets manslauter or 2nd degree. "seluf defenz" shouldn't even play an role unless he was mortally wounded or there was no other option to make it stop other then lethal force (which probably was the case). Even then it should of been in Zimemrman's best interest not to kill him.
That's not how self-defense works. You do not have to wait to be injured to justify the use of force. Why the hell do you think girls about to get their getting raped on who shoot the person dead don't deal with murder and shit? because the intent was already shown. Getting your head slammed into the ground is a great way to cause mortal injury, you don't have to wait for your skull to crack open, your spinal cord to get fucked, or to be put in a coma before you're allowed to respond. The only people who think like you are the people who have never been in anything even close to a physical altercation.
Even if there is legitimate use of the SYG law, it's still bullshit. Lets just kill someone because an punk decided to get physical.
You wouldn't mind if I attacked you, got in a full mount, and posed serious threat of bodily injury to you by smashing your head into the ground?
Tell you what, I can fly for free. I'll pay for my hotel. Let's meet up. Let me attack you and get you in a full mount. I'll give you a gun. You are only allowed to try to shove me off. Let's see how long you let me slam your head into the ground before you feel the need to use the gun.