hey again Newgrounds. Mind just checking my new website out and telling me what you think?
Any spelling,grammar or design issue reports would be much appreciated before launch.
Its always good to have multiple opinions so I can mold it before we start sending out client invites.
Anyways this is in no way an advertisement as it is an invite only service.
I am just getting opinions anywhere I can as id like it to be as clean and as polished as possible.
Cheers guys.
I closed the page as soon as obnoxious music started blaring. It's a pet peeve of mine when sites automatically start audio. If I want to hear music on a site I should explicitly start the video/music.
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Immediately I get an unstyled site, which tells me you are loading the CSS/content via javascript (I have NoScript). I don't see why some sites take away complete viewing privileges because I choose to have JS off by default. Perhaps a nice little message "this site works best with javascript enabled" would be a good idea. Websites shouldn't be completely dependent upon JS.
Having then enabled javascript, I am met with a website that is completely flash based (that is going to be nightmare to maintain, mind) that automatically plays some song. Auto-playing is a massive no-no for anything, people will go to any lengths to stop it and that usually means just closing your site and not coming back.
It is a nicely designed site, it's just a shame you've gone the flash route for it. I definitely recommend going with HTML/CSS in the future; it's far more compatible and, as I mentioned before, is far easier to maintain and build upon.
Good luck with your launch.
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At 4/8/12 01:30 PM, pirateplatypus wrote: I closed the page as soon as obnoxious music started blaring. It's a pet peeve of mine when sites automatically start audio. If I want to hear music on a site I should explicitly start the video/music.
I thought that could be an issue.
We just really want our clients to watch that video.
I reckon I can mute the audio and give them an option to play the audio if they wish as the video keeps rolling.
It looks great.
The only thing you can probably do with the spelling is change "in to" to "into", place some more commas and remove the capital letter of Audience.
I don't really get what the site is about. I think it's just for websites, but it's not really clear. The promo movies just show some people dancing, which doesn't explain anything either.
Another thing which bothers me was that there are a lot of differences in how big the letters are.
The layout is clear, but a bit boring. The people pictures have absolutely nothing to do with the site.
The last thing I don't like is that you should probably turn off auto-play with the video. Or give a warning that there's music playing. Because the sound is set pretty loud for normal browsing.
That's everything I don't like.
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At 4/8/12 01:31 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: Immediately I get an unstyled site, which tells me you are loading the CSS/content via javascript (I have NoScript). I don't see why some sites take away complete viewing privileges because I choose to have JS off by default. Perhaps a nice little message "this site works best with javascript enabled" would be a good idea. Websites shouldn't be completely dependent upon JS.
Having then enabled javascript, I am met with a website that is completely flash based (that is going to be nightmare to maintain, mind) that automatically plays some song. Auto-playing is a massive no-no for anything, people will go to any lengths to stop it and that usually means just closing your site and not coming back.
It is a nicely designed site, it's just a shame you've gone the flash route for it. I definitely recommend going with HTML/CSS in the future; it's far more compatible and, as I mentioned before, is far easier to maintain and build upon.
Good luck with your launch.
We can always rebuild it in HTML5 and I initially wanted to go with the HTML5 route the fact that this website would only ever even be used was only to show off to Clients. The actual experience is built in HTML. Its essentially a giant interactive advertisement in a shape of a website to get the clients interests after the invite has been sent off.
I just hope they all have Javascript enabled but at the same time this worry would go away if I just rebuild it in Html.
Thank you for your brief in depth review.
It's sleek and appealing to that's good, but there are 2 big kinks I've found that kind of ruin it. First is the music; if you're going to include it, at least make it quieter by default and, if it's possible, make it constantly play over the entire site instead of just the home page. 2nd is the "The Team" page. There's no reason for the pictures to be uncontrollably rotating and they'd be better off either in one spot or rotating, but in a way that you can stop if you want to. I realize the information is down at the bottom, but the text under each picture is hard to read while moving and kind of pointless.
Just my opinions.
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At 4/8/12 01:34 PM, Knuckstrike wrote: It looks great.
The only thing you can probably do with the spelling is change "in to" to "into", place some more commas and remove the capital letter of Audience.
I don't really get what the site is about. I think it's just for websites, but it's not really clear. The promo movies just show some people dancing, which doesn't explain anything either.
Another thing which bothers me was that there are a lot of differences in how big the letters are.
The layout is clear, but a bit boring. The people pictures have absolutely nothing to do with the site.
The last thing I don't like is that you should probably turn off auto-play with the video. Or give a warning that there's music playing. Because the sound is set pretty loud for normal browsing.
That's everything I don't like.
Listen to the lyrics in the promo video. They are meant to sort off hit off what SocietyBadger is used for and compliment the descriptive text to the left of the video.
At 4/8/12 01:31 PM, deckheadtottie wrote: I don't see why some sites take away complete viewing privileges because I choose to have JS off by default.
I agree completely.
At 4/8/12 01:32 PM, Armour wrote: We just really want our clients to watch that video.
I'd to toss in my two cents. If I'm dealing with a company that wants to put all info in a video I'm turned off. I can read much faster than a video can get the information out there. I'd suggest having your info in text format as well.
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At 4/8/12 01:49 PM, pirateplatypus wrote: I'd to toss in my two cents. If I'm dealing with a company that wants to put all info in a video I'm turned off. I can read much faster than a video can get the information out there. I'd suggest having your info in text format as well.
Done then. I shall mute the music on the website.
Anything else guys?
did you know when you have a loud annoying video autoplay on your home page you make people like me instantly click off of your site without even giving it a chance
At 4/8/12 03:02 PM, toxisfuckingdumb wrote: did you know when you have a loud annoying video autoplay on your home page you make people like me instantly click off of your site without even giving it a chance
Also fixed.
No longer autoplaying.
Anything else?
At 4/8/12 03:11 PM, Armour wrote:At 4/8/12 03:02 PM, toxisfuckingdumb wrote: did you know when you have a loud annoying video autoplay on your home page you make people like me instantly click off of your site without even giving it a chanceAlso fixed.
No longer autoplaying.
Anything else?
It is a lot better than when you first posted. Not everything that might need to be changed can be
discovered today. As it stands, it looks pretty solid, stick with it, and if problems arise, deal with
them then. Also, keep the simple look. Sites that get complicated, or just look complicated, are a
big turn off. So you do have something good with the cut and dry look you have going. Strait
and to the point.
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Okay, I'm not going to bother writing out all the same 'website direction' issues you didn't listen to last time, but I still feel the need to ask a question anyway:
How exactly are you "partners" with Apple, YouTube and Blackberry? What piece of legal jargon are we using for the definition of "partner" here?
At 4/8/12 03:17 PM, Sheizenhammer wrote: Okay, I'm not going to bother writing out all the same 'website direction' issues you didn't listen to last time, but I still feel the need to ask a question anyway:
How exactly are you "partners" with Apple, YouTube and Blackberry? What piece of legal jargon are we using for the definition of "partner" here?
Youtube - I am a Youtube video partner.
When I set up my first website I have applied for partnership with Apple which granted me free access to some of their tools and in return I must place a link to one of their stores anywhere on my site otherwise those tools would be blocked. I also get 20% of anything they make if you purchase it via the apple link.
Blackberry : Blackberry supports me and aids me in business developments and in return once again I must place a link.
Microsoft : I am full partner with Microsoft and just recently got invited to a private venue in London this April, it took me a very long time to get accepted but eventually it once again granted me an official resellers license which is not that hard to get for anyone and access to their development tools.
As for buy.com , they simply granted me an online resellers license too.
Thats about it really.
Looking over your services more. I don't get it. It looks like Society Badger is just a message board. If I were running a business evaluating your service as a possible partner, here's some questions I'd personally ask that I didn't see any answers to.
Why not just set up my own message board?
How does this service integrate/compete with existing social networks like Facebook and Google+?
What information will/won't this service collect from my customers? With privacy being such a hot-button issue these days, how can I know my customers' privacy will be respected?
What's the added value to this service? What can you do that I can't do myself?
Are there any examples of communities you've already set up for clients? The links on the page just show a larger picture of the logo, they don't give me example of how your service is set up.
With Facebook being as widely used as it is, why not just promote my business through Facebook?
How much does it cost?
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At 4/8/12 03:37 PM, pirateplatypus wrote: Looking over your services more. I don't get it. It looks like Society Badger is just a message board. If I were running a business evaluating your service as a possible partner, here's some questions I'd personally ask that I didn't see any answers to.
Why not just set up my own message board?
How does this service integrate/compete with existing social networks like Facebook and Google+?
What information will/won't this service collect from my customers? With privacy being such a hot-button issue these days, how can I know my customers' privacy will be respected?
What's the added value to this service? What can you do that I can't do myself?
Are there any examples of communities you've already set up for clients? The links on the page just show a larger picture of the logo, they don't give me example of how your service is set up.
With Facebook being as widely used as it is, why not just promote my business through Facebook?
How much does it cost?
1. Doing it yourself well require the entire team I already have and we provide this whole team. We make your own area on the network, we moderate your audience, we take of your audiences needs, we entertain your audience.
2. Doing it yourself will also cost money. We do literally everything for free.
3. Doing it yourself will mean you cant concentrate on what matters and its your content, we take care of all the stuff you shouldnt be doing as it distracts the person from producing the content.
4. We bring together communities. For example : Client 1 : 100,000 subscribers brings his audience in on to the network. 10,000 members sign up. Client 2 does the exact same thing, the members mix and the two fan bases interact which brings more attention to both parties and both get a decent fraction of one anothers fan bases constantly. The more fan bases integrated the bigger the awareness of all the particapating clients.
5. Our assistants take care of the www.video-society.com page, and constantly update it with the persons content to spread even more awareness about the client.
6. If i took off the Messaging board the website would literally have all functions of Facebook and Twitter put together since we purchased our own hooks and optimized them to our liking. TS is quite literally the ultimate social networking solution with an already active community.
7. For more popular clients we pay and and maintain their very own personal messaging board branded with the Badger logo.
How do we make money? Advertisements and premium account sales as well as add ons for accounts.
Thats pretty much it really.
So what is this, your 52nd or 53rd failed attempt at starting up an online business?
"Your fans can discuss your newest video or event and socialise increasing your community experience."
Bad english, the fact that my fans can do something doesn't increase my community experience, that's only increased if they actually do. Should be rephrased as :
"Your fans can discuss your newest video or event, and this socialization will increase their sense of community under your brand."
This: "This means that your community will mix with someone else's which doubles your exposure giving you a realistic portion of someone else's fan base." should be rephrased as:
"This means that your community will mix with someone else's, doubling your exposure and giving you a realistic portion of someone else's fan base. "
To be honest the whole writing style and structure comes across as unprofessional and awkward, and i think you'd be better of rewriting everything from scratch.
At 4/8/12 03:57 PM, PIED3 wrote: So what is this, your 52nd or 53rd failed attempt at starting up an online business?
"Your fans can discuss your newest video or event and socialise increasing your community experience."
Bad english, the fact that my fans can do something doesn't increase my community experience, that's only increased if they actually do. Should be rephrased as :
"Your fans can discuss your newest video or event, and this socialization will increase their sense of community under your brand."
This: "This means that your community will mix with someone else's which doubles your exposure giving you a realistic portion of someone else's fan base." should be rephrased as:
"This means that your community will mix with someone else's, doubling your exposure and giving you a realistic portion of someone else's fan base. "
To be honest the whole writing style and structure comes across as unprofessional and awkward, and i think you'd be better of rewriting everything from scratch.
I have always created concepts such as " Swivel " and I still have them in store.
I have around three concepts, two of which require insane amounts of money to start up and one of which requires a much bigger team. This also started off as a concept but my funds as well as the amount of people in this project were substantial.
This is the first and only online business to ever launch from me. So I would say first attempt.
I will try and proof read it and rewrite it to the best of my abilities.
English unfortunately is not my first language but I do try as hard as I can to structure my sentences with decent grammar and with minimal spelling errors.
looking unprofessional and provocative.
Also, fuck WIX http://static.wix.com/client/app.swf?cacheKiller=v%3D684&max -age=172800
Can't you just build your own goddamn site from scratch? I caught a ton of errors already.
Wix... how much did you pay them? Seem like a waste. Want to see a Flash-FireBug log?
At 4/8/12 04:11 PM, Wurfel-Waffles wrote: Wix... how much did you pay them? Seem like a waste. Want to see a Flash-FireBug log?
Wix seemed like the best solution as all this website is, is just an advertisment.
This makes little sense to me as I don't do web design.
Cast does the site programming on our end.
We can build a website from scratch but figured it would cost a whole lot more than simply using a service.
For our central base we will build the website using HTML from scratch.
At 4/8/12 04:15 PM, Armour wrote: We can build a website from scratch but figured it would cost a whole lot more than simply using a service.
For our central base we will build the website using HTML from scratch.
I disagree. HTML is dead simple and a decent coder could hammer out a better site in a day or two tops. The cost of hiring a competent coder for a few days really isn't bad. It's even easier to bear when you consider that there will likely be prospective clients that go elsewhere when they see a poorly built form site. I can think of few red flags worse than a company that does things half-assed with the promise that it will be done properly in the future. I'd be inclined to take my business to someone that cared enough to do it right from the start.
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might want to clean up some of the english. there's just a few small grammatical/syntactic errors that are distractions and somewhat unprofessional. I know that is very vague and I'm not pointing out specific instances but they're just kind of pervasive in everything. actually whatever fuck it i'm bored. I'm bolding where I make changes
Do you have an audience? Because we have the tools. We take your audience and integrate them into a social community where everything is all about you! Your fans can discuss your newest video or event and socialize, increasing your community experience [awk. wording]. We will moderate, provide for, and entertain your community.
There is even more. Others just like you will have their audience integrated into the 'Society.' This means that your community will mix with someone else's which doubles your exposure, sharing with you a significant portion of someone else's fan base. Now, imagine more than one community being mixed with yours! You will get a very large percentage of other fans while sustaining and strengthening your own!
Society Badger [I recommend bold or different font color when you mention your product name] is an already active community with all the included features that were displayed in the video on the homepage [a list of these features is always nice]. SB is an advanced social network with a built in forum and a built in chat. SB is a top of the range modern social networking site combining the best aspects of popular social networking sites such as x. SB is an excellent platform to house your audience.
[new paragraph]So what exactly do we do? We take your audience and place them into a community within a private section where everything is all about you! They talk about you and your new videos, your contests, events... anything and everything. Your audience stays active and consistent, this private section is hosted on SocietyBadger which contains its own general section for all the people from the private sections to interact in. Your audience will get their own special colour code so that they can be told apart from the other user audiences.
Now imagine someone with an audience just as big as yours interacting with your community, what does that mean for you? Twice as much exposure and a percentage of his/her fan base. Now imagine even more than one user. Triple, evenquadruple, amounts of exposure. You will rapidly grow as your community is stabilized and active. Your community will be taken care of and guarded by our team. Your community will be entertained and kept up to date by our team. All of this given to you for free throughout the entire project.
also try to minimize your use of stock art because it's somewhat jarring and unnecessary. like the woman in the about me page. if a design element or something you've written adds nothing to what you are trying to convey, chances are it will just distract the reader from what you are trying to sell them on.
On the About page.
What is SocietyBadger?
Nothing short of professional.
Text beside what looks like a 7 dollar whore.
You shouldn't design business websites, that clients would not feel comfortable viewing in their office.
I don't like reading. I skim. What I got from your About page, is that you're quite possibly a professional escort service.
Also, try to keep accessibility in mind when designing websites. Your page works like reddit when using a page reader. This removes credibility away from your programmers. You may not need accessibility on your page, but incorporating it shows your clients that your programmers are cable of writing clean, standardized code that is widely readable by people and computers.
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