At 4/11/12 08:33 AM, bismuthfeldspar wrote:
A clique of officers saw an opportunity to exploit discontent with the government's handling of the Tuareg rebellion to gain power.
Yes OK, but you know why, because they were understaffed and under equipped to defeat the rebel and Tuareg, who are no easy opponent.
A coup was unnecessary because TourÃfÂ© was losing political power anyway, the political instability only harmed the war effort, they will now have to risk men's lives to recapture lost territory and the war will last longer as a result resulting in more poverty and civilian loss of life.
Are you even following the news? They already handed back power quite awhile ago, and everything seems calm for now.
They are fighting because the supply of arms and mercenaries on the Saharran black market increased after the collapse of Libya resulting in a power shift in their favor, all that stuff about ethnicity and shariah law is just propoganda for poor uneducated people which is a factor but that hasn't changed much and it's not as significant as military force.
Yeah that just a few leaders of the Tuareg, but the real motive of the Tuareg is to obtain their national identity again by capturing their historical lands. The Tuareg are not violent savages as some might think, you are absolutely correct about their use of propaganda and religious talk to manipulate the poor, which does in turn cause riots and tension with others, but that's exactly what their looking for, Mali is almost 100% Muslim populated, and unfortunately a lot of them are illiterate and poor so they'll believe in the bullshit, but even you must still take into account that this was their land, taken away from them by force and they are trying to get their land back, it's really not that hard to understand, in fact I'm pretty sure anybody would act that same.
Sure, Europeans were savages, but still, Africans were savages also. In the medieval era Europe was full of knights and kings bashing each other's brains out, in the pre-colonial era Africa was full of warriors and chieftans running around stabbing each other, it's just a fact, not sure what you're contesting here.
The Mali Empire for instance once spanned west Africa and among their favorite activities were dicing up borders to divide and conquer, stealing land, salt and gold from conquered peoples, setting up vassal states, killing rival princes and kings on whims and enslaving people. They also supported 10000s of light/medium cavalry lancers with some sporting padded cotton armor, rather like knights except suited to the hot climate.
Yes I understand, I'm not blaming all of Africa's problems on the West, really, but the root of most of the conflicts at least in this modern era is due to the colonised period in Africa. Civilizations always conquer and divide, it's a bloody routine in history, all I am stating is that a major part of the conflict we see in West Africa today is due to the colonists, specifically the French.
Interestingly enough, the African countries that were conquered by the English, are a bit better off today, and the French post colonial countries are worse off. French...
Because North African countries largely share ethnic and religious backgrounds, you don't see this type of violence.libya
Libya was a NATO funded war that did not have to result this way at all, The 2 nations adjacent to Libya had even larger amounts of people and way more brutal police force. Yet it did not happen because their was no foreign intervention to manipulate them, of course Libya was going to become a civil war, how did the idiots in NATO not see that coming?
Because they probably did, you see Libya was not just like it's neighbouring countries fighting for freedom and life. No, Libyans enjoyed extreme benefits, including a tax free country, no interests, by law, about $70000 marriage gift from the late Gaddafi for them to buy their house, free electricity, free healthcare, free water and of course free education.
Why would anybody revolt? You might want to read the facts and how sketchy the whole invasion was, it was one of the few countries that didn't have a central bank.... but of course the "heroes" of Libya quickly went and constructed one right after Gaddafi's death.
The only reason Libya is still in extreme turmoil is because none of those fucking idiots know what their revolting for, in my country Egypt, during the first 18 days at least, no one was fighting one another, same in Tunisia.
According to a military source in Harare, the coup leaders allegedly contacted Western governments and asked them if they would support the coup. "The general feedback was that the western countries would publicly condemn the coup and privately support it only if it would restore democracy in Zimbabwe."
Beware that "restoring" democracy usually means, a puppet who will do the Western world's bidding.