Oh, she didn't develop. That makes it all ok. She was addicted to drugs, so she shouldn't face repercussions. What message does this story send? It's ok to falsely imprison somebody for rape if you eventually come clean, with no negative consequences for you?
Who the fuck said it was all "okay"? Nothing was okay. What she did was not okay. What her father did was not okay. I am saying she should not face repercussions, not because what she did was okay, but because it wouldn't solve anything. You keep insisting that I am trying to say it was okay when I am saying that there's nothing to gain from punishing.
She couldn't have been responsible for them, even though you also say she made the choices, because her dad was a drug addict? I'm sorry, but that's, quite frankly, idiotic to say. She didn't have that influence around her doing those years when she was an addict.
He had already given her that influence when she was a child. Even if he wasn't present, that does not mean she isn't influenced anymore. Her father lured and attracted the girl with drugs. It's just that when he was gone, she didn't give up that habit. Because of him, though.
So basically she didn't like the way he was acting. I have not met one person who at some point wanted their parents to go away.
So haven't I. But the point I was making is that she did not do what she did because she didn't like him, it was just that he was too much for her.
It was the father's fault? So now it's his fault he got jailed for rape even though he never raped somebody? Listen to yourself. Being a dick or bad parent does not mean you deserve to go to prison. It also does not give your kids a free pass to be complete scum. You are blaming the victim. You are basically saying the dad deserves to go to prison because he did drugs (But no mention of which drugs) and that because this girl wanted her dad to go away (It isn't like every single teenager has felt that at some point right?) it instantly means he obviously deserves it.
Yes it was the father's fault, but not because he was accused for rape. It was his fault that he raised her to be that way. Is it that hard to understand? Also, I never said being a dick meant going to prison. I am saying he brought it on himself, and he caused this whole thing to happen. He was guilty, but not guilty enough to go to prison. I think we are having a communication barrier here: you are thinking of the legal definition of "guilty" and I am thinking "guilty" as in being responsible for a wrongdoing (no matter how severe). And what do you mean "free pass to being a scum"? I said that she shouldn't have had repercussions because the crime was already committed and she had regretted the decision, and that she was a child. I am saying that both parties here are to blame, but no one should be punished. There is no free pass. I never said the dad deserved to go to prison...I believe he was simply responsible for his child's actions.
She irreversibly damaged his life. She needs to face some kind of punishment. If I out and murder somebody, what would the point of sending me to jail be, I mean, I already did it and it won't change anything.
You're right, it wouldn't change anything. That's why people send those people to jail because they are STILL DANGEROUS.
If he is given compensation, he can at least get his life back on track.
Woah woah woah! Life back on track? Are you kidding me? So you are saying that his life is irreversibly changed for the worse and his life is just ruined (insert melodramatic music here) and now he still has the glorious option to get his life back on track? Do you know what "ruined beyond belief" means? It means that no matter what he does, he can't get his life back on track. Ever. That, or you are really downplaying "ruined".
She shouldn't have to do anything besides be in prison, or pay him compensation for those years he lost. I don't give two shits about how fucked up her life is now, she's the one that made it that way, not some little bitch who accused her of rape.
Or maybe the dad should give HER compensation because it was clearly him who fucked up her life first to make her fuck up his life? And no, I don't know how much I have to repeat it but, SHE DID NOT MAKE HER LIFE THAT WAY. It was her fucking father; I can guarantee you: if her father did not take any drugs (and yes, he did more than just alcohol, read the goddamn article) she would not be her right now.
Your entire argument sums up to: Why bother, he's fucked, and she was emotionally fucked when it happened so fuck it
If you care so much about that guy's life being ruined forever, than what about the "heavy compensation" that would ruin her life as well, even if it isn't as bad as what the guy received?I don't care about her, she made the choice. She went her teenage years with that choice. She went into adulthood with that choice. She fucked him completely over for no reason other then being a bad parent. He loses 10 years of his life. She should very well be punished
Her dad was much more than an alcoholic, by the way. He did not care for her when she was having trouble at school. He smoked pot and did other drugs. He partied frequently. He did not care. It was most definitely the father's fault for what she had become. Any type of neglect for the child is certainly at most making the PARENT responsible for the ensuing actions. It's bullshit that you would just pass off the father's doing as really nothing, when it WAS something, especially when the only thing you highlight is the "alcohol" part.
I'm just going to stop quoting you from here on out. I have already ran out of space and I don't feel like including your quotes anymore so let me summarize the best I can:
You mentioned that he partied and he deserves to be jailed? What? Do you realize that he partied frequently. Which is more than just partying a little? Not only that, but he smoked pot a lot? And alcohol anyone? How about the combination of all the three made him NEGLECT the child? It's not the partying individually that made it worse, it's the fact that his partying made neglect. That's the whole topic of it. Neglect. Instead of treating her better, he goes off in an assholish way and parties with/without drugs, just ignoring the daughter.
Also, you keep on saying time after time "his life is ruined, blah blah blah". "There's nothing left of it" even though you said yourself that his life still has the opportunity to be back on track if given compensations, so I am just going to regard this point as complete idiocy.
"Oh look, he has nothing now! Gone everything! Nada! Oh, except if you give him compensations..."
Not so "ruined forever" now anymore right?
You know what ruined forever is? Ruined forever is when you CAN'T get a job. Where you CAN'T get a decent home or place to live. Where you CAN'T get even a little money. It's where you lost everything, even potential things like compensations. Hell, it's where you do not receive any sort of compensation. Your life is not ruined forever if you still can make or have changes that can alter your life for the better. Sure, you won't be able to return to your regular normality, but sometimes a downgrade is good enough.
You know what? I am just going to end it here.
Sometimes shit happens to people. People make mistakes. Does it mean they deserve consequences? Not if they are proven to not make the same mistakes again. The girl made a mistake. She should not be given consequences even if the father's life was irreversible and he was falsely accused for a whopping 9 years. The girl was a child, her decision was solely because of her father, and therefore she could not have been held responsible for her actions. If she couldn't be held reponsible, she couldn't have been held responsible ever, no matter how old she is or how long it takes for her to confess.