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I rape little girls all the time!

People who accuse others to get them in jail REALLY piss me off. That's such a sneaky and screwed up thing to do, and to her father no less?! She deserves the worst to happen to her.

This is awful, it's because of people like this who make real rape victims look like liars.

How long until this becomes a RacistBassist, Phantox, ModernPatriot and whoever else wank thread about the evils of feminism

At 4/4/12 06:45 AM, Halberd wrote: How long until this becomes a RacistBassist, Phantox, ModernPatriot and whoever else wank thread about the evils of feminism

Well the topic was made seven hours ago, so it's possible that since it hasn't happened yet, it may never occur.

At 4/4/12 06:50 AM, phsychopath wrote:

At 4/4/12 06:45 AM, Halberd wrote: How long until this becomes a RacistBassist, Phantox, ModernPatriot and whoever else wank thread about the evils of feminism

Well the topic was made seven hours ago, so it's possible that since it hasn't happened yet, it may never occur.

feminism is prety evil tho

U CANT HAVE BOTH ADVANTAGES LADIES

Also multiculturalism is also an evil

the Jews control the media and the world and they are controlling the blacks and using the blacks to corrupt the purity and beauty of the white race

my forum icon is an accurate portrayal of what is going on in society

At 4/3/12 11:18 PM, bgraybr wrote: It's funny 'cause men raped him in prison. It's almost like his daughter raped him by proxy.

They probably had him in PC.

There's something worse than this that happens much more often. Those brave enough to come forward don't get to see their attacker punished because they get away with it.

At 4/4/12 08:34 AM, Sensationalism wrote: There's something worse than this that happens much more often. Those brave enough to come forward don't get to see their attacker punished because they get away with it.

as somebody against imprisonment purely for punishment i'd say that being jailed for such a huge amount of time for no reason is much worse.

Guess it was her who fucked him then.

At 4/4/12 10:02 AM, JaY11 wrote:

At 4/4/12 08:34 AM, Sensationalism wrote: There's something worse than this that happens much more often. Those brave enough to come forward don't get to see their attacker punished because they get away with it.

as somebody against imprisonment purely for punishment i'd say that being jailed for such a huge amount of time for no reason is much worse.

I would rather spend 20 years in prison than get raped once. People don't get PTSD from being in prison. I can't think of ANYTHING worse than rape.

Also, are we sure he didn't do it? Just because she says she lied, doesn't mean she did. Unless there's a rape kit and solid evidence, people usually don't get convicted, even when they did do it.

At 4/4/12 12:23 AM, georgesodini wrote:

preponderance of evidence.
the girl was able to fully describe in detail how her father "raped her."
how many 11 yr old girls do you know who can do that?
only rape victims can. so this is how they got a conviction

Any girl who has read the book To Kill a Mocking Bird, The Color Purple to name of few Middle School books.
Or any girl that has internet access.
Or any girl that has seen a rated R movie
Or heard the details from a friend

Theres plenty of ways a girl that age can give it out in details. Kids these days know more things than 16 years olds did 30 years ago. Probably more than the 18 year olds.

At 4/4/12 11:46 AM, Revo357912 wrote: Any girl who has read the book To Kill a Mocking Bird, The Color Purple to name of few Middle School books.
Or any girl that has internet access.
Or any girl that has seen a rated R movie
Or heard the details from a friend

Theres plenty of ways a girl that age can give it out in details. Kids these days know more things than 16 years olds did 30 years ago. Probably more than the 18 year olds.

Shit, all they need to do is tell them about the time daddy went into their room at night, started undressing her, and then breaking down in tears hysterically. Crying on whim is an ability most girls pick up at level 9 or 10, and combining that with their passive of being good liars, voila, you got a rape case.

i would really like to know the true story behind all of this

Love to go to their family christmas get-together..Must be fun :/

Girls like her disgust me. Even if her father 'neglected' her, there is no way in hell you're allowed to do such a thing. Especially to your own father.

Okay, now I should get on with my life.

At 4/4/12 11:27 AM, Sensationalism wrote:

I would rather spend 20 years in prison than get raped once. People don't get PTSD from being in prison. I can't think of ANYTHING worse than rape.

People who are imprisoned for something they didn't do, and having such a large portion of their lives taken from them, probably do suffer large psychological affects. Not to mention how badly somebody falsely convicted of rape would get treated by other inmates.

to me, getting forced to have sex once doesn't even compare.

At 4/4/12 12:44 PM, JaY11 wrote: People who are imprisoned for something they didn't do, and having such a large portion of their lives taken from them, probably do suffer large psychological affects. Not to mention how badly somebody falsely convicted of rape would get treated by other inmates.

to me, getting forced to have sex once doesn't even compare.

Yeah, mental anguish must be worse than mental AND physical anguish. Getting falsely accused of something feels pretty shitty but it's nothing compared to getting raped. They take your choice, sometimes your virginity, your power, your sense of security, etc.

At 4/4/12 12:05 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Shit, all they need to do is tell them about the time daddy went into their room at night, started undressing her, and then breaking down in tears hysterically. Crying on whim is an ability most girls pick up at level 9 or 10, and combining that with their passive of being good liars, voila, you got a rape case.

Very True.
That reminds me of the book called "The Crucible".

At 4/4/12 12:02 AM, DarkMatter wrote: technically he could couldn't he? I mean people can't be convicted for the same crime twice.

A crime has a time and a location.

Raping someone 6 years ago is not the same thing as raping someone today. Those are two different crimes. One was a crime committed 6 years ago, and the other is a crime committed 5 minutes ago.

You can be tried for both of those, but you can't be tried for one of them twice.

You can't be tried for the rape 6 years ago twice, nor can you be tried for the rap 5 minutes ago twice... but you can be tried for each rape case. You can be tried for rape twice.

"I was daddy's girl," she said. "I was with my dad!" But, she said, her father wasn't around much when she was little and that he drank heavily, smoked pot and partied.
"I wanted him to love me, and I didn't think he did at that time," she told the detectives.

I think it's partially the dad's fault for neglecting the child or not treating her better while he was out being high. It doesn't excuse the girl for wrongly convicting him but then again, the dad didn't uphold his part as much as a parent.
The girl wanted her father to "go away" after he made her feel like crap. At one point in the story it was mentioned that she had problems in school and that "she wanted to take a gun and shoot everybody".

The girl obviously had emotional problems that troubled her- I suppose her father made things worse. Think about it, her father was the one that most likely induced the behavior into the child, as he was raising her. Not only that, she was only 11 at the time and her parents were divorced, leaving her only to her drug-addicted/party-frenzied father to deal with.

Now I am NOT trying to say that what she did was justified, I am simply saying she had problems that ANY 11-year old could of had if they had little to no control or conscious over their young lives.

Basically, here is my point: To all the people who believe she should have been raped/punished after this whole ordeal: I rightfully disagree with you. She should not have been punished as she was never in the right emotional state and therefore couldn't be very responsible for her actions. An ELEVEN year old made the mistake to falsely accuse her father, not a 20-something. Besides, the girl has been punished enough by herself, she has seen firsthand to what it is like to have no parents.

The girl had stated herself that what she did was "very wrong" and she is very regretful of her youthful decision. She has seen the flaws of her past and has already made up for her wrongdoings. Perhaps she should have not waited so long until trying to tell the truth, but to tell you the truth: she was STILL in a horrible emotional state because she became drug-addicted; a habit that could have been traced to her father, as he was the one who should have been responsible for his daughter's upbringing.

So please do not say she needs to be punished or raped, that kind of thinking is heinous in itself after what both the father and daughter have went through.

At 4/4/12 02:29 PM, 4761 wrote: Basically, here is my point: To all the people who believe she should have been raped/punished after this whole ordeal: I rightfully disagree with you. She should not have been punished as she was never in the right emotional state and therefore couldn't be very responsible for her actions. An ELEVEN year old made the mistake to falsely accuse her father, not a 20-something. Besides, the girl has been punished enough by herself, she has seen firsthand to what it is like to have no parents.

Oh, she was emotionally fragile. That means she should be forgiven for ruining somebodies life and waiting over a decade to come clean right? I mean, fuck that guy, he was a dick so who cares that his entire life is forever ruined? I mean, the 11 year old did all of it. The 20 something year old didn't wait until she was in adulthood to make up for the lie right?

The girl had stated herself that what she did was "very wrong" and she is very regretful of her youthful decision. She has seen the flaws of her past and has already made up for her wrongdoings. Perhaps she should have not waited so long until trying to tell the truth, but to tell you the truth: she was STILL in a horrible emotional state because she became drug-addicted; a habit that could have been traced to her father, as he was the one who should have been responsible for his daughter's upbringing.

No. No she did not make up. Did she give him those years of his life back? This may shock you, but drug addiction is not genetic. SHE made those choices. It's all on her. Don't give her Freudian excuses. She completely ruined this guys life for no reason other then he she didn't like him and he was a dick. This girl went into adulthood, and a few years into it, with this horrible action on her. She should face severe punishment for her crime.

So please do not say she needs to be punished or raped, that kind of thinking is heinous in itself after what both the father and daughter have went through.

She does need to be punished. Shit, she should have to pay huge compensation for what she has done at the very least. What the daughter went through? Shut the fuck up. She didn't go through shit that wasn't her own fault besides her dad being an alcoholic. Oh no! That is so horrible! She had daddy issues! That makes it ok for her to send this guy to jail for that long, forever irreversibly changing his life and ruining it.But, she had daddy issues so what she went through was heinous.

At 4/4/12 12:49 PM, Sensationalism wrote:

Yeah, mental anguish must be worse than mental AND physical anguish. Getting falsely accused of something feels pretty shitty but it's nothing compared to getting raped. They take your choice, sometimes your virginity, your power, your sense of security, etc.

All of those things (aside from virginity) apply to being falsely imprisoned. Except it's all dragged over a sentence lasting years, which is a lot longer than rape.

He should be allowed to rape her now!

so many trolls ITT

Oh, she was emotionally fragile. That means she should be forgiven for ruining somebodies life and waiting over a decade to come clean right?

And punishing her is going to somehow, magically do something now?

I mean, fuck that guy, he was a dick so who cares that his entire life is forever ruined?

I never said that I didn't care about his life being ruined. So I really don't understand the point you are making.

I mean, the 11 year old did all of it. The 20 something year old didn't wait until she was in adulthood to make up for the lie right?

She didn't develop much emotionally, having a shitty drug-addicted teenage life still put her brain at an even show with her 11 year old self. It's hard to confess when you could just live your life having nothing against you. But even then, what is punishing her NOW going to solve anything?

No. No she did not make up. Did she give him those years of his life back?

What? Since when was regretting her decision and seeing the flaws of her past "making up"? Of course she didn't make up for anything. I never said she did.

This may shock you, but drug addiction is not genetic. SHE made those choices. It's all on her. Don't give her Freudian excuses.

Of course it's not genetic. But drug habits can be passed on from parent to child. It's actually a proven medical fact that parents who do drugs are more likely to pass their habits onto their children, almost as if it was a religion or traditional belief. So it's not genetic, but it works the same way as heritage (environmental factors). She made the choices, but she couldn't have been responsible for them because her father made her that way in the first place.

She completely ruined this guys life for no reason other then he she didn't like him and he was a dick.

No, not true. She wanted him to "go away" which meant that she didn't want to deal with him anymore because he would continue to be an emotional stressor that she did not need in her life. It's not like she hated him/disliked him.

This girl went into adulthood, and a few years into it, with this horrible action on her. She should face severe punishment for her crime.

May I remind you that it was her father's fault that this whole debacle even happened? Should I also remind you that it was his own choices to heavily influence his daughter's choices in the first place? Or maybe the fact that his problems made her problems more permanent and thus made her not confess until she truly felt old? If there is ANYONE who deserved actual severe punishment, it is the dad who brought it on himself in the first place.

She does need to be punished. Shit, she should have to pay huge compensation for what she has done at the very least.

Ha, like punishing and/or giving compensation is going to do anything now? Don't give stupid reasons, you even said yourself that "the father's life is ruined forever". If it is ruined, what is going to change if he is given compensation? His life is still technically "ruined" right? He would still have no job or opportunities even with the compensation right? What can she do besides pull an improbable job opportunity out of her ass and give it to him? What kind of compensation are you thinking of besides a cruel, undeserved punishment? What, do you want her to kiss his feet? To become his maidservant? To give money that she needs to live off of (because she most likely doesn't have a good job to begin with) to him? Do you want her to go to jail and make one more person in the world unnecessarily feel like utter crap?

If you care so much about that guy's life being ruined forever, than what about the "heavy compensation" that would ruin her life as well, even if it isn't as bad as what the guy received?

What the daughter went through? Shut the fuck up. She didn't go through shit that wasn't her own fault besides her dad being an alcoholic.

Her dad was much more than an alcoholic, by the way. He did not care for her when she was having trouble at school. He smoked pot and did other drugs. He partied frequently. He did not care. It was most definitely the father's fault for what she had become. Any type of neglect for the child is certainly at most making the PARENT responsible for the ensuing actions. It's bullshit that you would just pass off the father's doing as really nothing, when it WAS something, especially when the only thing you highlight is the "alcohol" part.

Oh no! That is so horrible! She had daddy issues!

Daddy issues? These examples were much, much more than just little troubles with your father. She had no mother after the divorce and her father treated her and himself like shit. These are more than just "issues".

You know what "issues" are? Not having a good enough job. Not liking the food you eat. Thinking your life is too average and needs a little more spice to it. Thinking you are too fat and need to exercise. Needing to come up with a difficult business plan. Thinking about your future and wondering how you would be able to find a job.

These are life-changing predicaments that affect the child in the most horrendous way possible. Hell, this is why serial killers are the way they are most of the time. Don't just pass off huge problems as nothing but issues. I could say in the same sense that the Haiti Earthquake, Japan Earthquake/tsunami/meltdown, the Great Depression, etc. were just "meh, some issues". Perhaps I am using extreme examples but the concept is the same. Things that are much more troubling than you think they are shouldn't be demoted to something that is a mere obstruction to one's way of life.

That makes it ok for her to send this guy to jail for that long, forever irreversibly changing his life and ruining it.

I never said it was okay for the guy to go into jail. I believe I already addressed this in my previous post. So quit pulling these little snide comments out of your ass. I said that the woman should not have been given punishments because these punishments won't solve a goddamn thing.

But, she had daddy issues so what she went through was heinous.

Like I said: Life changing predicaments. It's not like she got some dirt on her rug, if you know what I mean.
It's just that you are taking this seriously at all. She had a legitimate excuse to not being punished because she was a CHILD at the time and it may seem easy to you, but it's not so easy to confess to the world that you have murdered someone in your past, were responsible for a bombing at a school, or any kind of shit that you were still emotionally stressed under. Be glad that she even showed up and confessed in a matter of a decade rather than not telling anyone what she did at all.