At 3/25/12 11:58 AM, HiryuGouki wrote:
Actually, I've had worse, which I really don't want to talk about.
Turning personal anguish/instability into a one-upsmanship competetion of "What a coward, I've suffered worse things than X person who committed suicide!" is completely fucking stupid and misses the point entirely. It's childish, really.
At 3/25/12 12:02 PM, HiryuGouki wrote:
And there ARE treatments for PTSD, you know. If he can no longer take it, why not go see a therapist? There are TONS of options out there, and yes, that includes for treating PTSD.
This should just about do it.
Hey that's great. Also this is completely meaningless!
Guess what? A large majority of mental ailments and personality disorders virtually disable a person's desire for medical attention. Are you aware that one of the actual symptoms of major depression disorder is the inability to care about personal well-being? As in, your brain's activity patterns straight up prevent you from being able to focus on thoughts like "Hey, maybe if I got into therapy I could begin to make some progress and my conditions would improve". It's a self sabotaging disease that manipulates the thought climate of a person in order to influence their behavior in a way that will keep them ill.
It's not a matter of "cheer up and start thinking positively!", that's a horrendously naive and childish way of viewing these sort of cognitive disorders. If people with depression could change their outlook on a whim simply with a little introspection, then they wouldn't be diagnosed with severe chronic depression. In the vast majority of cases, people suffering from these problems need external influence and directive in order to begin any sort of treatment, because they will avoid it like the plague otherwise. And no, not because they're too stupid to realize what modern medicine is, but because that's one of the symptoms of their disease.
But of course, it's easier for everybody to play armchair psychologist over the internet and make huge, sloppy generalizations about the behavior of entire groups of people they have absolutely no experience with and know virtually nothing about who perform certain actions for reasons they have zero understanding of. Hey it's almost as if human behavior isn't black and white and that reasons for suicidal tendencies might just be a bit more nuanced than "person who's just a pussy VS prone with terminal cancer in severe pain" and may require a thorough understanding of accumulated psych knowledge in order to give some of these things context!
tl;dr what this guy said
At 3/24/12 05:34 PM, Aigis wrote:
I think, perhaps, you're not the best authority on pain when the worst you have felt is "Oh god I'm going to fail economics and I didn't get into the air force and I'm not even in Berlin!".
You're all a bunch of knuckle dragging invertebrates.