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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 12:25 PM Reply

At 1 minute ago, Th-e wrote: Look at South Park. Prior to all this Muhammad drawings stuff, there was no issue. Remember the "Super Best Friends" episode? It aired without any problems until the 200/201 incident
If we want to put a stop to these problems, we need to stand up to the extremists. Moderate Muslims have nothing to do with this.

I completely agree with you. I was pretty pissed when that happened cause i'm a supporter of free speech and i fucking love South Park. As i said earlier i might have been misleading because i did not mean to accuse the moderate muslims about this, I was meant to accuse the extremist muslims for overreacting about everything.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 01:31 PM Reply

At 55 minutes ago, jonathanfis wrote:
At 1 minute ago, Th-e wrote: Look at South Park. Prior to all this Muhammad drawings stuff, there was no issue. Remember the "Super Best Friends" episode? It aired without any problems until the 200/201 incident
If we want to put a stop to these problems, we need to stand up to the extremists. Moderate Muslims have nothing to do with this.
I completely agree with you. I was pretty pissed when that happened cause i'm a supporter of free speech and i fucking love South Park. As i said earlier i might have been misleading because i did not mean to accuse the moderate muslims about this, I was meant to accuse the extremist muslims for overreacting about everything.

You shouldn't single out Islam. Sure, there are more extremist Muslims today than extremist Christians, but it hasn't always been that way. The reason the Middle East is in such bad shape has little to do with the particular religion they subscribe to and a lot to do with the politics going on there. The United States is to blame for a lot of the instability there, but we turn and say that the problems in the Middle East are representative of Islam and the relative freedom and prosperity of the west is representative of Christianity. In part, the western world has elevated to this point by ending Christian theocracy. If Europe and America didn't change course and focus on secular democracy, we would continue to see the same kinds of conflicts in Christian nations that we do in the Muslim world. In a modern "Christian" nation, religion does not play a major role in government or the personal lives of the its citizens (unless they so choose). You cannot say that Christianity is a religion of peace while Islam is a religion of violence simply by turning to current events. Christianity has a much bloodier history than Islam.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 02:35 PM Reply

Since I'm a theology major i don't take religious discussions lightly.

The whole idea of a Muslim being a violent extremists should be a contradiction. If you are a so called peaceful Muslim and then go and practice any types of violence then you are no longer a Muslim but a terrorist and bring shame to Islam if they are of peace.

Same with Christianity, God's words say that if any acts of violence are committed and claim to be in his name, then they are not of God, and God is not in them.Violence is frowned upon in many religions, but it seems Muslims practice it the most. It just seems the true Muslims are following Mohammad's path.

It seems it's OK for Muslims to commit violence as long as its in the name of "Allah". Mohammed himself was not a peacemaker, and used violence in many occasions for persuasion. If you claim to be a Muslim and are not following Mohammed, then that would make you a non-Muslim and a perpetrator of his teachings.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 02:55 PM Reply

IMO Islam is no different to Christianity - they just enforce the laws and teachings set out by their religion; Christianity doesn't because secular laws prevent its people from doing so, and it's been like that for a long time.

If everyone kept to the teachings of the Bible to a tee, it would be as violent as Islam, because Islam still does.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 02:56 PM Reply

At 1 day ago, jonathanfis wrote: They hit their women will we christians respect our women.

Lol k

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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 02:59 PM Reply

At 1 day ago, jonathanfis wrote: Why is most muslims angry that you burn their qu'ran when they burn our bibles once or twice a day. Why can they portrait the christian prophet when we can't portrait their? They hit their women will we christians respect our women.

Because it's a different fucking religion.(?)


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 05:04 PM Reply

At 6 hours ago, DickBuns wrote:
At 2 hours ago, Cootie wrote:
Strormfront.org is a white power website. Yeah, lets trust you guys not be fucking ignorant.
You clearly missed the trolling there.

Oh, he was mocking Tony. I see. Well, am not quite sure anymore about the level of complete stupidity on Newgrounds so you can't blame me for taking him seriously.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 05:14 PM Reply

At 9 minutes ago, Cootie wrote:
At 6 hours ago, DickBuns wrote:
At 2 hours ago, Cootie wrote:
Strormfront.org is a white power website. Yeah, lets trust you guys not be fucking ignorant.
You clearly missed the trolling there.
Oh, he was mocking Tony. I see. Well, am not quite sure anymore about the level of complete stupidity on Newgrounds so you can't blame me for taking him seriously.

Seriously, fucking Poe's Law is amplified so much on an internet forum when you cannot tell tone and other shit like that.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 05:34 PM Reply

At 1 day ago, Shade wrote: I want to break your knees so badly right now.

Yea same here. Sounds to me you like you dont know what your talking about. If you read the quran you would know its not like that.

Its just people use passages from the quran and interpret there way in a hateful way. Islam is against hate and its also considered a sin.


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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 05:51 PM Reply

At 15 hours ago, Halberd wrote: Wow, this thread is messed up.

I feel like I've stepped onto a Youtube or Liveleak video about Israel or I'm on Stormfront.org

Some of you guys should go here: http://www.newgrounds.com/bbs/topic/1294301

Also on-topic I agree that the mentality of a large amount of Muslims is pretty bad. I know Muslims though that I respect and aren't bad people though and I also don't agree with the idea of bombing the Middle-East or whatever...unless its really far in the future and we have to resort to imperialism to get oil or something...but I'd rather not think about that or frame that into this discussion

So if its more in the future and its all about economic stability THEN its ok to bomb the entire civilian population of the Middle East.Wow.

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Response to Islam Mar. 6th, 2012 @ 06:06 PM Reply

At 1 day ago, jonathanfis wrote: They hit their women will we christians respect our women.

Yeah, let's look into the past and see if Christians gave a fuck about women's rights.


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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 07:35 AM Reply

At 1 day ago, Painbringer wrote:
If you're an Arab, people assume you're Muslim.
If you're a Semite, people assume you're Jewish.

Arabs are technically part of the Semitic genes, and Christianity, Judaism and Islam all come from West Asia.

The majority of Arab Christians tend to come from Lebanon, Jordan, Egypt, etc

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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 10:18 AM Reply

Book burning has existed for as long as we've had written language, people see it as a form of protest. When it comes to burning religious books, they are merely burning paper, they cannot kill the idea or the religion. Those who are killing the faith are those within the faith themselves; and of course modern development is turning it into folklore and mythology.


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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 10:52 AM Reply

At 26 minutes ago, PrincessLuna wrote: Book burning has existed for as long as we've had written language, people see it as a form of protest. When it comes to burning religious books, they are merely burning paper, they cannot kill the idea or the religion. Those who are killing the faith are those within the faith themselves; and of course modern development is turning it into folklore and mythology.

I do kinda agree with your idea :) The Bible or the Quran are actually only text on normal paper.


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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 02:03 PM Reply

At 2 days ago, ArthurGhostly wrote:
State your source. Also, the only times I've heard this happening it's the actions of extremists who don't speak for the majority. You can't hate an entire religion or creed of people for the actions of a few.

Here is the problem. You say extremists do this, but the so called "non extremists" don't speak out against it, unless someone says something. Why not call them out. Muslims don't try to stop the "extremists," so most every muslim is an accessory to the fact.

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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 03:54 PM Reply

At 1 hour ago, ttdub wrote:
Here is the problem. You say extremists do this, but the so called "non extremists" don't speak out against it, unless someone says something. Why not call them out. Muslims don't try to stop the "extremists," so most every muslim is an accessory to the fact.

Well for a start that isn't true. Certainly here in the UK, thousands of muslims held a rally to speak out against extremism last year.
Secondly they're as much a victim of it as anyone else, extremist muslims don't speak for the majority, and stir up tensions that do the moderates harm.

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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 05:53 PM Reply

At 2 days ago, Shade wrote: I want to break your knees so badly right now.

Can I partake as well?

You just derped all over this tread OP, hope you have a big enough mop to wipe it all up.


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Response to Islam Mar. 7th, 2012 @ 06:05 PM Reply

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