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At 5/1/12 03:36 PM, Teqneek wrote: More bullshit.

Its almost as if you missed what I was saying completely. If you truly and honestly think that, with the serious amount of weak people on this earth, we can survive without a greater calling being promised to them, then you just can't seem to see beyond the fact that all the weak people need some sort of connection to a higher power to even get up in the morning. I never once said people like you and me couldn't co-exist without religion, I said that 50% of this nation is made up of weak-minded people. I can promise you and I be 100% sure that without religion now, those people wouldn't give one single fuck about you, this world, or their own lives. The fact that you think this world doesn't need religion, is just preposterous.

As well as, no people shouldn't be killing each other over Religion, but believe me. People need religion, and I don't think I really need to argue about it anymore to be honest.

At 5/1/12 03:47 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:23 PM, DocterCerebro wrote: something retarded with bad grammar

There's a difference between avoiding and ignoring. You have the message; if you think it reveals some scandalous thing about me, post it. Other than that, I think the discussion going on between Teq and Emergency is much more interesting.

Teq, Emergency might have a point that religion causes people to do things they normally wouldn't. Take the pig. Ms. Lambourn actually stopped trolling for a minute and said something halfway intelligent, something that he would never have done had the conversation not turned to religion. Half joking, but it's kind of relevant to the point. Extrapolate that outwards and you have motivation for much greater things, like Emergency was talking about.

That being said, I feel that there was never a divide between God and science. I believe God can be scientifically proven with the science of dimensionality. Things that cannot be proven in the 3rd dimension often find solutions in the 4th or 5th. The highest math that most people learn through college, calculus, maxes out at 3 dimensions. Most people don't learn that there are higher maths with more dimensions for solving problems of electrostasis, etc. These maths are commonly used in the space programs and are the subject of an immensely popular Youtube video that shows how some scientists were literally able to make a solid object float in the air by freezing it in 3 dimensions.

What this means for God is that He can be thought of as a being that cannot be solved with 3 dimensional thinking. As a matter of fact, a 4th dimensional bum could be a God in 3 dimensions, as he would be able to reach through our timespace, jump ahead, visit dinosaurs, appear and disappear at will, and see inside of solid, opaque objects. I believe the God of our universe is in the 10th dimension at least, mathematically. In that dimension, if you could see it, it would be nothing but white noise waveforms of all possibilities. It is in that dimension that we are all connected, like a big ball of clay. Not in the 3rd dimension, where we all fight and squabble over property, bitches, etc.

If you think I'm just talking a bunch of shit, do this experiment.

Draw two dots on a piece of paper. What have you learned is the shortest distance between these two dots? A straight line, right?

Wrong.

Fold the 2 dimensional paper into a 3 dimensional cylinder so that the dots touch. This is the shortest distance - not drawing a straight line, but traveling through another dimension. You can extrapolate this to explain wormholes in space and time travel.

Yes, I thought of that dot thing myself. Applause not necessary.

THAT DOT THING IS FROM A WRINKLE IN TIME....I see what you're saying with all that but you have to admit that you are taking something so incredibly complex that people who dedicate their entire lives to it still have trouble understanding it, reading up on it casually (even if as a hobby not enough to matter) and then coming to conclusions that will fit your world view. I mean we all do that to a certain extent, but this obvious to me, because I'm someone who used to do that with god.

I'm not saying you are definitely wrong...I'm saying you're probably not right

At 5/1/12 03:47 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote: Nice stuff.

Lets get high and talk further.

At 5/1/12 03:53 PM, ThisIsAnEmergency wrote:

As well as, no people shouldn't be killing each other over Religion, but believe me. People need religion, and I don't think I really need to argue about it anymore to be honest.

SOME people need religion, I totally agree with you there. I also agree with you that religion can be used as a crutch for the weak. My main point is that it should be kept out of politics. Weak minded people should also be kept out of politics, so it kind of goes hand in hand.

Also, I just read your pm, and I agree that any other talk about religion should take place in pm exchanges.

At 5/1/12 04:00 PM, Teqneek wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:53 PM, ThisIsAnEmergency wrote:

Also, I just read your pm, and I agree that any other talk about religion should take place in pm exchanges.

Here I'll bring it back to the competition.

WEAK MINDED PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN OUR COMPETITION!!!!

At 5/1/12 03:58 PM, Scuare wrote: something to deflate my balloon

Well, in a truly relativistic society, as soon as you believe something isn't true, it isn't for you. However, because reality is relative, if I believe it, then it does exist for me. These two perspectives can then coexist because of the overlap of the superposition of the perspectives.

There are theories that quantum particles show up because we look for them, so if you think I'm wrong, then I am wrong. But I think I'm right. So I am right. Only your third dimensional thinking has told you that either one or the other must be true.

However, above six dimensions, your truth vs my truth becomes a non-question. They could exist right beside each other and both be true. And false. So ha.

You also assume that the most famous iteration of a point is the correct one and every other perspective eschwing the same point must be a copy. That dot thing is still mine, because I never read A Wrinkle in Time. So ha again.

Emergency, I don't smoke...I think of this stuff better sober, actually.

At 5/1/12 04:00 PM, Teqneek wrote: SOME people need religion, I totally agree with you there. I also agree with you that religion can be used as a crutch for the weak. My main point is that it should be kept out of politics. Weak minded people should also be kept out of politics, so it kind of goes hand in hand.

Also, I just read your pm, and I agree that any other talk about religion should take place in pm exchanges.

I agree, but I'll leave with this. Look at what you're saying. Weak minded people should be kept out of politics? At which point do we stop then? Where is the line drawn to decide who is of weak mind and who isn't? Who makes those decisions, an IQ test? I'm more for freedom than I am anything, and I'm completely for fairness. I would rather have the weak-minded people ruin our nation than have their beliefs and opinions completely stomped on and told that they don't matter. I'm not just saying lets take the mentally handicapped and give them our nation, I'm saying that most weak-minded people are just average working Joes and deserve a say. Even if it is a dumb one.

At 5/1/12 04:02 PM, Scuare wrote: Here I'll bring it back to the competition.

WEAK MINDED PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE ALLOWED TO VOTE IN OUR COMPETITION!!!!

Ok, they are gone.

Re-tallying up the votes on our battle with just the strong-minded people.. and..

We tied. 0-0

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, ThisIsAnEmergency wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:00 PM, Teqneek wrote: hot shit

Now Teq has a point. The folks who don't realize that the religious and political elite are performing a wrestling match should be slienced. I hate stupid hicks, true n******, dumb fucks, meatheads, who get all worked up over something they saw on Hannity or heard on Limbaugh...I hate them.

However, if all those folks got silenced, all of the elite would be out of a job. The 80% of stupid people exist solely for the betterment of the 20%. So the 20% will never let that 80% be silenced completely.

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, ThisIsAnEmergency wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:00 PM, Teqneek wrote: SOME people need religion, I totally agree with you there. I also agree with you that religion can be used as a crutch for the weak. My main point is that it should be kept out of politics. Weak minded people should also be kept out of politics, so it kind of goes hand in hand.

Also, I just read your pm, and I agree that any other talk about religion should take place in pm exchanges.

I agree, but I'll leave with this. Look at what you're saying. Weak minded people should be kept out of politics? At which point do we stop then? Where is the line drawn to decide who is of weak mind and who isn't?

Okay then here's my last word: The line should be drawn when people want religion to dictate what our laws should be. Sure, there will still be dumbasses voicing their dumb ass opinion, but just leave religion out of politics and it'll be a little less dumb. IMO

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:58 PM, Scuare wrote: something to deflate my balloon

Things

As soon as you begin to discuss something with another human being you are adding in rules. Rules of language; Rules of conduct; blah blah blah anyway...at that point your relativism doesnt matter anymore. You can believe that you are right as hard as you want but as soon as we assert something in a discussion we are playing by the rules that have been over time agreed upon to be the best in order to get to communal truths. If what you state directly opposes what i state then either one or both of us are wrong. We CANNOT both be right. You cannot make assumptions about a forth dimension that you cannot begin to comprehend. The most you can say MAYBE is that it exists.

Thats like a fish talking about what would happen if he fucked a monkey on the moon. Fish don't think in that way.

I on the other hand, am High

At 5/1/12 04:10 PM, ThisIsAnEmergency wrote:

Re-tallying up the votes on our battle with just the strong-minded people.. and..

We tied. 0-0

haha there would probably be like five valid votes in the whole contest

Double post, not sorry. But yeah SJD I fucking love particle and astrophysics, and you seem to know your shit. Let's rap about Boltzmann Brains and String Theory. And make that shit gangster as FUCK.

I'll be all like:

"Imma stick my dick in a wormhole

Something something SCIENCE!"

But yeah, I'm always down for an open-minded discussion about our place in the universe. Good shit.

At 5/1/12 04:18 PM, Scuare wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:58 PM, Scuare wrote: something else to deflate my balloon

You are suffering from a very third dimensional problem. Ego.

Just because YOU can't understand something doesn't mean I don't. But let this blow your mind.

Again, as reality is completely relative, not absolute (Einstein proved this in the 60s by the way...I don't think you even understand him so u gotta catch up), if you think that one of us is wrong and one is not, then that's completely correct for your reality. But your reality, Mr. Ego, is not the only reality out there.

That means that what I believe is just as valid as what you think. However, my thinking allows for a much richer set of experiences. I might get whisked away in a spaceship like Wil Wheaton on Star Trek because of my advanced thought processes. You, however, because your thought processes will limit your life experience, will be sleepin off hangovers in the drunk tank callin up yo mama for bail money. So I'll take my perspective over you anyday.

At 5/1/12 04:23 PM, Teqneek wrote: a really good idea

I actually LOVE that idea. I'm gonna try to get my work done early today and work on it.

At 5/1/12 04:28 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

:At 5/1/12 04:28 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:18 PM, Scuare wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:58 PM, Scuare wrote: something else to deflate my balloon

Again, as reality is completely relative, not absolute (Einstein proved this in the 60s by the way...

Not the 60s. I'm thinkin Civil Rights. This was around the turn of the 20th Century.

Triple post, but I couldn't let a statement that retarded slide. Had to call up my alt to correct that cuz I've been overposting.

At 5/1/12 04:28 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:18 PM, Scuare wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:08 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:58 PM, Scuare wrote: something else to deflate my balloon

You are suffering from a very third dimensional problem. Ego.

Just because YOU can't understand something doesn't mean I don't. But let this blow your mind.

you are completely ignoring a shared reality. I can kill you...is that in mine or yours? Is you telling redneck right winged nuts that they can't vote and making them not vote...is that in their reality or yours? Whose reality is it? Relativity was discussed waaay before einstein. You don't need any math to know that every man is born into a different perspective and collect information that makes his own reality completely subjective. Thats what defines our consciousness. You are taking a basic concept and pretending like its ground breaking. Its easy to say I'm right and you're right...but its bullshit...think whatever you wish. There is a whole realm of the irrational that i could never even begin to put into words, that is completely mine and cannot come into conflict with others because they are not exposed to it. But when you are going to have a discussion with someone throw out the relative bullshit. Its a parlor trick.

Sidenote: I like you because you are a very candid individual, so just know this is me being candid...not trying to be an ass

At 5/1/12 03:36 PM, PiGPEN wrote: -The fucking Catholic Church; Owners of a vast library, an observatory and the Pontifical Academy of Sciences of which Stephen Hawking is a member.

Worth pointing out- Stephen Hawkings doesn't believe.

Though I agree with PiG in that it isn't black and white. Religion can support science if the religion encourages questioning minds, but of course it can also encourage close minded fatalism, so really it comes down more to a culture's philosophy than which god told who to do what.

If any.

Ment to say this earlier...anyone want to keep talkin about this get on SKYPE

I think my name is either mstrscuare or scuare look me up and lettuce continue

At 5/1/12 04:52 PM, Scuare wrote:

I think my name is either mstrscuare or scuare look me up and lettuce continue

Damn, with wordplay like that we should all just drop out.

Not this shit again..................

Haha Nopalitos hates friendly discussion about rap music apparently

At 5/1/12 04:30 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:23 PM, Teqneek wrote: a really good idea

I actually LOVE that idea. I'm gonna try to get my work done early today and work on it.

I have some science-y lyrics about a 'universe' rap I was gonna do also, can I drop a short verse on this thing if it happens?

At 5/1/12 09:20 PM, NogginmenAnimations wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:30 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 04:23 PM, Teqneek wrote: a really good idea

I actually LOVE that idea. I'm gonna try to get my work done early today and work on it.

I have some science-y lyrics about a 'universe' rap I was gonna do also, can I drop a short verse on this thing if it happens?

can you drop off the face of the earth instead! dun dun chi, just playing.

At 5/1/12 09:57 PM, SoundGoodizer wrote: can you drop off the face of the earth instead!

I think I can probably swing that.

At 5/1/12 10:39 PM, NogginmenAnimations wrote:

At 5/1/12 09:57 PM, SoundGoodizer wrote: can you drop off the face of the earth instead!

I think I can probably swing that.

Not b4 u do the song.

At 5/1/12 03:47 PM, SenatorJohnDean wrote:

At 5/1/12 03:23 PM, DocterCerebro wrote: something retarded with bad grammar

There's a difference between avoiding and ignoring. You have the message; if you think it reveals some scandalous thing about me, post it. Other than that, I think the discussion going on between Teq and Emergency is much more interesting.

"There's a difference between avoiding and ignoring"? Really? You do realize that avoiding is a synonym of ignoring right?

>SJD believes String Theory bullshit.
Zero proof, just fact-unsupported hypothesis that rely on other fact-unsupported hypothesis to make sense.
String Theory is grant bait, nothing more.

At 5/2/12 04:23 AM, PiGPEN wrote: >SJD believes String Theory bullshit.
Zero proof, just fact-unsupported hypothesis that rely on other fact-unsupported hypothesis to make sense.
String Theory is grant bait, nothing more.

String theory is too new too be called bullshit thats like saying multiverses are impossible because they're illogical. Go smoke some DMT and tell me multiverses aren't possible. Grant bait or not the hydron collider is helping us learn "the theory of everything" and to say its bullshit is off because we've been researching 'string theory' since the 60s. Stick too rap and not debunking string theory.

At 5/2/12 04:23 AM, PiGPEN wrote: >SJD believes String Theory bullshit.
Zero proof, just fact-unsupported hypothesis that rely on other fact-unsupported hypothesis to make sense.
String Theory is grant bait, nothing more.

I think a big problem is that when they find a hole in their theories, rather than come up with a new angle they just try to plug the hole with clauses and exceptions, meaning we go 'round in circles and make less and less sense of the whole thing.
We need a scientific revolutionary to come along and fuck shit up.

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