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''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:11:25 Reply

I've always found it pretty ridiculous. If i think someone's an asshole i won't suddenly talk like he was a saint when he's dead.
I was at a dinner the other night and one of my nephews (he's 8 year old) was talking about how bad Hitler was for some reason. His grandma told him not to speak ill of the dead.

What do you think of that saying: ''Speak no ill of the dead''?


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:12:29 Reply

It was probably coined by someone who believed that their ghost would come to haunt you if you did.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:13:44 Reply

At A few seconds ago, benmitchell0036 wrote: It was probably coined by someone who believed that their ghost would come to haunt you if you did.

That's most likely the case, because people way back when were very superstitious.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:14:41 Reply

At A few seconds ago, benmitchell0036 wrote: It was probably coined by someone who believed that their ghost would come to haunt you if you did.

Naaaaaah-

Prolly just religious undertones and the sociologically imbued code of honor. Basically, grandma thinks you'll never by halcyon or bad fortune will fall upon you unless you respect erryone - under the earth, burnt, dead, whatever.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:16:00 Reply

At 1 minute ago, benmitchell0036 wrote: It was probably coined by someone who believed that their ghost would come to haunt you if you did.

It was also probably coined because people feared divine retribution or something like that


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:43:27 Reply

Well, I guess it depends on what kind of person they were. If the person was generally hated in real life, like Osama bin Laden or something, then you can probably make fun of them. In terms of anything else, it probably depends on how popular the person ever was. Michael Jackson got really popular when he died, even though tons of people made fun of him while he was alive. If they died a violent death, I'm thinking you could add like ten years or something. If it's a natural death, maybe two years.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:56:00 Reply

That guy was such a twat. Good riddance.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 19:59:09 Reply

I believe it is bull. I can respect most people in the world as human beings but if I didnt truely respectv a person when they were alive there's no reason to respect them for dying. Anyone can die.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:00:20 Reply

I dont really care.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:01:52 Reply

I only talk bad abo

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:01:56 Reply

Speak of them for what they were in life, their legacy is created solely by them, and they must live (and die) with them.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:02:55 Reply

At A few seconds ago, Ihatedapatriots wrote: I only talk bad abo

Cool story bro


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:03:49 Reply

At A few seconds ago, Ihatedapatriots wrote: I only talk bad abo

ut dead people if they did truly awful things during their life.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:03:51 Reply

I think its a bit silly. We learn and talk about bad dead people in history class.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:04:24 Reply

I think it should be followed unless he's the scum of society like Bin Laden or Sandusky or that one chick in misouri who killed someone for the hell of it. Just because someone disagree with someone else who doesn't fit into "scum of society" personally doesn't make it right for them to bash them when they die. Of course after a while maybe about a couple months you can go back to bashing him and not feel bad about it.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:06:02 Reply

At 19 seconds ago, Xenomit wrote:
At A few seconds ago, Ihatedapatriots wrote: I only talk bad abo
Cool story bro

LOL smartass. I accidentally hit post. Of course I CAN'T GO BACK AND EDIT!

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:11:26 Reply

Michael Jackson is a pedophile.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:13:57 Reply

it is disrespectful to say bad stuff about dead people. but hitler, stalin, kim jon il...etc nobody cares if you disrepect them, they were horrible.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:14:38 Reply

Well, I don't like to do it, because when people die you don't have to deal with them anymore, so there's no need to complain about them. People like Hitler would be an exception because his actions continued to affect people for decades after his death. Even that however, in the present day, is swiftly becoming history.

In other words, you shouldn't speak ill of the dead because you're clinging to useless hate for someone that can't hurt you anymore.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:14:46 Reply

At 1 hour ago, FairSquare wrote: I've always found it pretty ridiculous. If i think someone's an asshole i won't suddenly talk like he was a saint when he's dead.
I was at a dinner the other night and one of my nephews (he's 8 year old) was talking about how bad Hitler was for some reason. His grandma told him not to speak ill of the dead.

What do you think of that saying: ''Speak no ill of the dead''?

Hell, I would piss on Osamas grave and proudly shout "Fuck this guy"

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:18:48 Reply

At 50 seconds ago, bgraybr wrote: In other words, you shouldn't speak ill of the dead because you're clinging to useless hate for someone that can't hurt you anymore.

That depends on the situation.
I won't initiate a conversation about how much of an asshole someone who died was.
If my opinion is asked however, i won't have a different opinion on someone after he died than before.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:22:56 Reply

At 2 minutes ago, FairSquare wrote: I won't initiate a conversation about how much of an asshole someone who died was.

Yeah.

If my opinion is asked however, i won't have a different opinion on someone after he died than before.

That's not what the quote means, I don't think. If someone asks you then you're allowed to be honest.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:37:43 Reply

If you were a cruel and evil mass murdering bastard and you die, you suddenly should be completely forgiven and no one should say anything against what you did? Lol.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-09 20:44:05 Reply

Moral whores. Ignorant. Childish.

Anyone who actually says ''Don't speak ill of the dead''. They are fucking retarded.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:13:39 Reply

I sort of understand the reasoning behind it. It's like "get a bit of perspective, they're dead, who cares if they stole your favourite pen at school" or w/e.

I still do it and couldn't give a fuck about respect just because they're dead.

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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:17:23 Reply

I don't care for the phrase, but you shouldn't have to say anything about anyone because they're gone and doing no harm anymore.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:31:39 Reply

Don't come running to me if they start haunting your ass.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:36:07 Reply

At 16 minutes ago, simon wrote: I don't care for the phrase, but you shouldn't have to say anything about anyone because they're gone and doing no harm anymore.

Their legacy can be harmful. Especially if they will be seen as martyrs.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:44:26 Reply

At 2 minutes ago, satanbrain wrote: Their legacy can be harmful. Especially if they will be seen as martyrs.

What's wrong with that? Their legacy is only harmful to the people they are targeting.


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Response to ''Speak no ill of the dead'' 2012-02-10 08:51:18 Reply

I agree. It's a pretty stupid. Especially if someone was bad, like hitler.


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