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At 2/1/12 06:42 PM, Dean wrote: but I agree with those guys that a lot of modern punk isn't punk at all.

What exactly do you mean "modern punk"? Crust, pop, D-beat, Grind, the "cores", or what?

At 2/1/12 06:50 PM, Tobi wrote: ...Grind, the "cores".....

Grind IS a "core."

Dead Kennedys
Minor Threat
Sick of it All
The Exploited

For classic punk, which I don't listen to much of, I absolutely adore The Runaways.

For crossover/thrash metal, some bands worth listening to include Suicidal Tendencies, Carnivore, early Type O Negative, Nuclear Assault, early Voivod, Anthrax, Overkill, Municipal Waste, Cancer Bats, Toxic Holocaust and D.R.I.

For GOOD hardcore... Biohazard, Madball, Agnostic Front, Pro-Pain, Propagandhi, Minor Threat, Black Flag, The Cro-Mags, Social Distortion, English Dogs and the very first Hatebreed album.

Just my recommendations. Propagandhi is my absolute favorite punk band.

SUICIDE

How did I forget the Misfits?

At 2/1/12 07:10 PM, BizzarroPMP wrote:

At 2/1/12 06:50 PM, Tobi wrote: ...Grind, the "cores".....

Grind IS a "core."

Anything with "core" in it usually fucking sucks.

At 2/1/12 07:21 PM, SKHM wrote: SUICIDE

Fucking amazing, every song on that album is great.
As in 9/10.

Synth-punk. First band to ever use the term "punk music".

I take it back, Minor Threat.

HXC 4 LYF GUYS

I think that the only punk bands that i like are: The Dead Kennedys and The Ramones

At 2/1/12 07:24 PM, Sevkat wrote:

Grind IS a "core."

Anything with "core" in it usually fucking sucks.

Usually, yes. Not always.

There's some decent metalcore - see Protest The Hero, Between The Buried And Me, Revocation, TesseracT and The Human Abstract.

There's some decent grindcore - mainly early Napalm Death, Carcass, Insect Warfare and Dystopia.

Most CLASSIC hardcore was great. Almost all post-hardcore, and most Hatebreed/Earth Crisis worship hardcore sucks though.

And even though I DON'T consider either of these bands deathcore, both Suffocation and Fleshgod Apocalypse are awesome and i've heard both labeled deathcore in the past - even if I disagree with them being called that. (I haven't found any LEGIT deathcore bands that I like though, lol)

All emocore is shit though.

At 2/1/12 07:10 PM, BizzarroPMP wrote: Grind IS a "core."

I say that because Grindcore and the other "cores" aren't often associated with the others. Plus, I feel modern Metalcore/Deathcore has nothing to do with punk, despite having the suffix.

At 2/1/12 07:27 PM, RacistBassist wrote: I take it back, Minor Threat.

HXC 4 LYF GUYS

Str8 Edge dude!

At 2/1/12 07:32 PM, AniMetal wrote: All emocore is shit though.

Emocore doesn't even exist. The one band that I've ever heard be describe themselves as emocore are Cave In, which also happen to be one of my favorites from the old metallic hardcore scene.

Dillinger four
Mischeif Brew
The god awfuls
Refused
Assorted Jelly Beans
Fugazi
Dead kennedys
The exploited
The casualties
Chinese Telephones
Crass
Burning sensation
Bomb the music industry!

I am the only one who mentioned the Damned.

What the fuck kind of place is this.

At 2/1/12 07:43 PM, Scarface wrote: I am the only one who mentioned the Damned.

What the fuck kind of place is this.

and then they went shit.. Seriously their new albums sucked.

At 2/1/12 07:34 PM, Tobi wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:10 PM, BizzarroPMP wrote: Grind IS a "core."

I say that because Grindcore and the other "cores" aren't often associated with the others. Plus, I feel modern Metalcore/Deathcore has nothing to do with punk, despite having the suffix.

Hardcore melded with metal to make metalcore, which melded with noise and jazz influence to make grindcore.

But the hardcore roots are the most obvious. So it still "has something to do with it" even though it gained enough influence to become its own thing.

At 2/1/12 07:44 PM, therealanimator wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:43 PM, Scarface wrote: I am the only one who mentioned the Damned.

What the fuck kind of place is this.

and then they went shit.. Seriously their new albums sucked.

Fair enough, but how can you forget Phantasmagoria or Grave Disorder? Those were awesome.

At 2/1/12 07:46 PM, Scarface wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:44 PM, therealanimator wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:43 PM, Scarface wrote: I am the only one who mentioned the Damned.

What the fuck kind of place is this.

and then they went shit.. Seriously their new albums sucked.

Fair enough, but how can you forget Phantasmagoria or Grave Disorder? Those were awesome.

Every copy of any Damned albums or the Scarface movie should be destroyed.

At 2/1/12 07:42 PM, Tobi wrote: Cave In

Hydra Head records....

At 2/1/12 07:47 PM, Slint wrote: Blasphemy

Why must you hurt me....

I sense a disturbing lack of Rise Against.

At 2/1/12 07:55 PM, dark-knight-link wrote: I sense a disturbing lack of Rise Against.

I was going to post Rise Against. But I feared the "THAT'S NOT PUNK" reaction. Fuck that.

Dead Kennedys
Minor Threat
Sick of it All
The Exploited
The Misfits
Rise Against.

There.

At 2/1/12 07:49 PM, BizzarroPMP wrote: Hydra Head records....

Indeed.

At 2/1/12 07:42 PM, Tobi wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:32 PM, AniMetal wrote: All emocore is shit though.

Emocore doesn't even exist. The one band that I've ever heard be describe themselves as emocore are Cave In, which also happen to be one of my favorites from the old metallic hardcore scene.

I always considered emocore to be like Black Veil Brides, Escape The Fate, Falling In Reverse and all those other shit bands. I could be wrong, though.

At 2/1/12 08:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: I always considered emocore to be like Black Veil Brides, Escape The Fate, Falling In Reverse and all those other shit bands. I could be wrong, though.

Just a term for any -core band you dislike (Possibly invented by Rummy0). Kind of like Norsecore and black metal. It's not even a genre and can be thrown around more loosely than a your mom joke.

At 2/1/12 08:01 PM, AniMetal wrote: I always considered emocore to be like Black Veil Brides, Escape The Fate, Falling In Reverse and all those other shit bands. I could be wrong, though.

IMO, Emocore and Screamo bands have actually really good music, but shit singing. They think screaming and whining and squealing is a good sound. If they put some effort into it, I'd listen to them.

At 2/1/12 07:57 PM, MrFlopz wrote:

At 2/1/12 07:55 PM, dark-knight-link wrote: I sense a disturbing lack of Rise Against.

I was going to post Rise Against. But I feared the "THAT'S NOT PUNK" reaction. Fuck that.

Dead Kennedys
Minor Threat
Sick of it All
The Exploited
The Misfits
Rise Against.

There.

Some of their songs? Yea I'll concede to that.

However goddamn Revolutions Per Minute.