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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 10:48 PM

At 1/27/12 10:46 PM, Dubbi wrote:
At 1/27/12 08:33 PM, Light wrote:
It appears to me that you're just Insanctuary under a different name and an asinine philosophy.
I looked at Insanturary posts and based on his and the OPs extreme similarities in writing style, philosophy and annoying bullshit, I am positive that they are the same retard.

Enlighten me. What are these ''similarities''? Is it because I'm different? Is everyone a troll because they are different? And choose to travel on uncharted fields of knowledge and reasoning just to see if they can find anything that could restore more sense to some of the things that just don't add up?

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 10:58 PM

At 1/27/12 10:45 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: When other functions can define our feelings much greater than ''fear'' can. It sure does.

Nobody is claiming that fear and anger are the only emotions humans are capable of experiencing, though. We are well aware that human emotion can become much more complex than abject fear or blind rage. That doesn't change the fact that "angry" is a perfectly acceptable and accurate way of describing a person's state.

When women who are experiencing domestic violence phone the 5-0 there's a reason they're more likely to say:
"MY HUSBAND IS ANGRY"
than:
"My husband appears to be experiencing some kind of drunken existentialist life-crisis, manifesting itself in the form of physical violence against myself and our children. However on closer inspection what may appear to be anger to the non-philosophical type could actually be described as a state of nihilistic self-actualisation, possibly caused by OH GOD MY FACE HAS GLASS IN IT ASKFHASKFB"

Indeed. Intelligence stems from knowledge which stems from interpretation. While awareness and ignorance are much more flexible terms than intelligence will ever be.

How is being aware or something any more flexible than knowing something? In fact, how exactly are they different?
Furthermore, how is ignorance any different to the simple lack of knowledge? When ignorance by definition is the lack of knowledge?

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:02 PM

At 1/27/12 10:58 PM, yurgenburgen wrote: How is being aware or something

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:06 PM

At 1/27/12 10:58 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/27/12 10:45 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: When other functions can define our feelings much greater than ''fear'' can. It sure does.
Nobody is claiming that fear and anger are the only emotions humans are capable of experiencing, though. We are well aware that human emotion can become much more complex than abject fear or blind rage. That doesn't change the fact that "angry" is a perfectly acceptable and accurate way of describing a person's state.

When women who are experiencing domestic violence phone the 5-0 there's a reason they're more likely to say:
"MY HUSBAND IS ANGRY"
than:
"My husband appears to be experiencing some kind of drunken existentialist life-crisis, manifesting itself in the form of physical violence against myself and our children. However on closer inspection what may appear to be anger to the non-philosophical type could actually be described as a state of nihilistic self-actualisation, possibly caused by OH GOD MY FACE HAS GLASS IN IT ASKFHASKFB"

Indeed. Intelligence stems from knowledge which stems from interpretation. While awareness and ignorance are much more flexible terms than intelligence will ever be.
How is being aware or something any more flexible than knowing something? In fact, how exactly are they different?
Furthermore, how is ignorance any different to the simple lack of knowledge? When ignorance by definition is the lack of knowledge?

I honestly believe that the terms lack substance. There are much deeper terms to support the reaction of humans. ''fear'' and ''anger'' can be easily replaced with much flexibility and significance when you look at it deeper. Therefore, by acknowledging how terms spawn from an interpretive language, I here by deem any term inexistent if we have misinterpreted the language of our body and mind; and that there are much greater terms to further embody a state of communication.

You forgot one thing. If that were to be the case; the husband wouldn't be experiencing that if there was a greater understanding of what is intiating the reaction we call ''anger''. [Also, it's obviously having nothing to do with your satire, lol.]

Simple. Anyone can become more or less aware of a particular subject. Anyone can be more or less ignorant of a particular subject. Not everyone can become more or less intelligent. You are either intelligent, or dumb. You can't be both. While you can be both ignorant and aware at the same time on a much more flexible state of perspective. ^.^

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:24 PM

At 1/27/12 11:06 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: I here by deem any term inexistent if we have misinterpreted the language of our body and mind; and that there are much greater terms to further embody a state of communication.

Give examples. Tell me what word/s you would use to replace "fear", keeping in mind that this new term has to actually be capable of expressing fear but with the added bonus of being deeper and more intellectually stimulating, while being practical for everyday use.

Anyone can become more or less aware of a particular subject. Not everyone can become more or less intelligent.

But that's completely wrong. Anyone's intelligence can indeed rise or fall. If there were people who simply cannot acquire intelligence there would be a good percentage of the population with the minds of freshly-born infants, and there aren't (with the exception of people who are genuinely mentally disabled)

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:26 PM

I think you mean "What exactly is anger," anyways, anger is a chemical released into your brain that you respond to and act upon.


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:30 PM

At 1/27/12 11:26 PM, Suprememessage wrote: I think you mean "What exactly is anger," anyways, anger is a chemical released into your brain that you respond to and act upon.

NOT DEEP ENOUGH, PLEB

YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHAT DOES ANGER REALLY MEAN

In fact, WHAT DOES EVERYTHING MEAN?

Are we all just TURTLES? Swimming around in a large bowl of invisible CUSTARD?

I am of course using METAPHORS because I am DEEEEEEEEEEP

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:31 PM

At 1/27/12 11:24 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/27/12 11:06 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: I here by deem any term inexistent if we have misinterpreted the language of our body and mind; and that there are much greater terms to further embody a state of communication.
Give examples. Tell me what word/s you would use to replace "fear", keeping in mind that this new term has to actually be capable of expressing fear but with the added bonus of being deeper and more intellectually stimulating, while being practical for everyday use.

Anyone can become more or less aware of a particular subject. Not everyone can become more or less intelligent.
But that's completely wrong. Anyone's intelligence can indeed rise or fall. If there were people who simply cannot acquire intelligence there would be a good percentage of the population with the minds of freshly-born infants, and there aren't (with the exception of people who are genuinely mentally disabled)

I would say that one who fears is one who is casted off balance by cowardice; weakness; lack of understanding. When you realise how to capitalise on a situation beforehand, and understand that ''fear'' [cowardice; weakness; lack of understanding/control] will do you know good; what is left of it?

Anyone can become aware of something at any given level of perception. Intelligence is some sort of dessert for the ego. How are we intelligent again? We are either aware at X capacity, and ignorant at X capacity.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:36 PM

At 1/27/12 11:30 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/27/12 11:26 PM, Suprememessage wrote: I think you mean "What exactly is anger," anyways, anger is a chemical released into your brain that you respond to and act upon.
NOT DEEP ENOUGH, PLEB

YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF WHAT DOES ANGER REALLY MEAN

In fact, WHAT DOES EVERYTHING MEAN?

Are we all just TURTLES? Swimming around in a large bowl of invisible CUSTARD?

I am of course using METAPHORS because I am DEEEEEEEEEEP

I could go deeper, however ambient temperature a few miles down into the Earth are several hundred degrees Fahrenheit.


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:39 PM

At 1/27/12 11:36 PM, Suprememessage wrote: I could go deeper, however ambient temperature a few miles down into the Earth are several hundred degrees Fahrenheit.

yeah I used to use Fahrenheit back when I was a pleb but now I'm much more into the Rankine measurement of temperature, it's pretty obscure you've probably never heard of it

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:41 PM

At 1/27/12 11:39 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

yeah I used to use Fahrenheit back when I was a pleb but now I'm much more into the Rankine measurement of temperature, it's pretty obscure you've probably never heard of it

Bitch please, all the real mean use Degrees Kelvin nowadays.


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 27th, 2012 @ 11:44 PM

At 1/27/12 11:41 PM, Suprememessage wrote: Bitch please, all the real mean use Degrees Kelvin nowadays.

Pfft Kelvin is like so three days ago

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 12:02 AM

How about that theory that we are misinterpreting our body's signals now?

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 12:13 AM

At 1/28/12 12:02 AM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: How about that theory that we are misinterpreting our body's signals now?

I'm much more into the labour-value theory, it's pretty obscure you've probably never heard of it

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 12:37 AM

At 1/28/12 12:13 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/28/12 12:02 AM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: How about that theory that we are misinterpreting our body's signals now?
I'm much more into the labour-value theory, it's pretty obscure you've probably never heard of it

What does that even mean? -- all I see is a sequence of letters and spaces. Who am I to extrapolate meaning and irony from your statement? When you think about it, if I tried to meaning from anything you wrote, I'd be a spider giant spider spinning an increasingly more complex web of self-delusion. Words are incapable of expressing anything anyway, so new super words must be created that completely transcend the limits of language and convey absolute truth. But all I can really do is accept things and expel all materials. See our lives are dictated by dopamine and I need rid all fallacy and embrace the genuine. That's my philosophy anyway -- shunning all subjectivity and becoming the world [metaphor].


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 12:56 PM

At 1/28/12 12:37 AM, Dubbi wrote:
At 1/28/12 12:13 AM, yurgenburgen wrote:
At 1/28/12 12:02 AM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: How about that theory that we are misinterpreting our body's signals now?
I'm much more into the labour-value theory, it's pretty obscure you've probably never heard of it
What does that even mean? -- all I see is a sequence of letters and spaces. Who am I to extrapolate meaning and irony from your statement? When you think about it, if I tried to meaning from anything you wrote, I'd be a spider giant spider spinning an increasingly more complex web of self-delusion. Words are incapable of expressing anything anyway, so new super words must be created that completely transcend the limits of language and convey absolute truth. But all I can really do is accept things and expel all materials. See our lives are dictated by dopamine and I need rid all fallacy and embrace the genuine. That's my philosophy anyway -- shunning all subjectivity and becoming the world [metaphor].

Instead of mocking me. I'd suggest you to discuss with me. I believe my word to be true. I've stated this already. Why do you have to turn my philosophy into a childish game?

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Let me help you: I do not see a sequence of letters and spaces. I'm actually applying sense to something that lacks sense. [?] You've used the giant spider metaphor wrong. Words can express plenty of communicational depth; only certain words are lacking substance and/or structure. I'm not trying to expel all materials [?] Being dictated by dopamine is not the root of our problem.

Your philosophy of my alleged pseudo philosophy is not a philosophy if it's just as poorly constructed as these following terms:

Anger, fear and intelligence.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:00 PM

anger is a emotion that can cause adrenalin which can give you super-strength that can help you lift a car in the air.


i will form my foot in your ass!

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:22 PM

At 1/28/12 01:00 PM, 420SWED wrote: anger is a emotion that can cause adrenalin which can give you super-strength that can help you lift a car in the air.

Actually. Willpower can subsitute for that.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:34 PM

People are still taking this clown seriously?

At 1/27/12 11:31 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: Intelligence is some sort of dessert for the ego. How are we intelligent again? We are either aware at X capacity, and ignorant at X capacity.

LOL, what?


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:35 PM

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:36 PM

At 1/28/12 01:34 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: People are still taking this clown seriously?

At 1/27/12 11:31 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: Intelligence is some sort of dessert for the ego. How are we intelligent again? We are either aware at X capacity, and ignorant at X capacity.
LOL, what?

You are still not understanding why I am saying what I do? When you acknowledge that the terms we use to express our world could be flawed; you are naturally going to sought for a greater definition and structure to replace it's petty lesser self.

Awareness. Ignorance. These two terms are perfectly fine to elaborate on potentially everything that has to do with perspective and what is of it.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:42 PM

At 1/28/12 01:36 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:34 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: People are still taking this clown seriously?
When you acknowledge that the terms we use to express our world could be flawed; you are naturally going to sought for a greater definition and structure to replace it's petty lesser self.

So you're not trying to be a philosopher, you're trying to be a librarian.

Awareness. Ignorance. These two terms are perfectly fine to elaborate on potentially everything that has to do with perspective and what is of it.

And, this matters how?


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:47 PM

Reading this makes me angry. >:I

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:49 PM

At 1/28/12 01:42 PM, EmmaVolt wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:36 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:34 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: People are still taking this clown seriously?
When you acknowledge that the terms we use to express our world could be flawed; you are naturally going to sought for a greater definition and structure to replace it's petty lesser self.
So you're not trying to be a philosopher, you're trying to be a librarian.

Awareness. Ignorance. These two terms are perfectly fine to elaborate on potentially everything that has to do with perspective and what is of it.
And, this matters how?

Honey, I'm not a philosopher. I'm not brilliant. I'm not pretentious. I'm just me, and frankly; I am just trying to explain a flaw in a fews word -- that are stretched out amongst our world -- which happens to encompass major fields. You may not see the damage it can cause; but I do. Whenever someone tells me that they are intelligent. I think to myself: they can absorb knowledge and use a vocabulary they've spent time on learning -- how does this make them intelligent -- if they aren't aware of things that does not take regurgitated notes and information to obtain?] Then you realise, that awareness and ignorance are the most balanced way of expressing one's level of perception and what is of it. That if people are lead to believe that they are ''intelligent'' they aren't going to pursue a greater level of perception, because they are too caught up in their own pretentious web of fabricated facts that only derive from interpretations.

Not ''intelligence''.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:57 PM

At 1/28/12 01:49 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: Honey,

Lol.

I'm not a philosopher. I'm not brilliant. I'm not pretentious. I'm just me, and frankly; I am just trying to explain a flaw in a fews word -- that are stretched out amongst our world -- which happens to encompass major fields.

Take a scientific field if this truly matters to you beyond basic communication. Also, your run-ons are getting extremely aggravating to read.

You may not see the damage it can cause; but I do. Whenever someone tells me that they are intelligent. I think to myself: they can absorb knowledge and use a vocabulary they've spent time on learning -- how does this make them intelligent -- if they aren't aware of things that does not take regurgitated notes and information to obtain?]

You derived completely opinionated conclusions from a simple statement. Stop over-thinking. This sounds like a personal problem, and not one in society.

Then you realise, that awareness and ignorance are the most balanced way of expressing one's level of perception and what is of it.

No, actually they are clear definitions of the extent of one's ability to recognize a situation and one's quantity of knowledge on a subject, respectively. Although the terms can be mischaracterized, there is nothing wrong with the definitions.

That if people are lead to believe that they are ''intelligent'' they aren't going to pursue a greater level of perception, because they are too caught up in their own pretentious web of fabricated facts that only derive from interpretations.

You cannot predict the future for each of us; and this does not help your "argument".


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 01:59 PM

At 1/27/12 10:48 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: Enlighten me. What are these ''similarities''?

Girl, go to Insanctuary's page Insanctuary and tell me, what do you see? As far as I'm concerned, you're one and the same. Or perhaps master and apprentice? Maybe this riddle shall help you. It's certain that you've heard it before.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 02:09 PM

At 1/28/12 01:57 PM, EmmaVolt wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:49 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: Honey,
Lol.

I'm not a philosopher. I'm not brilliant. I'm not pretentious. I'm just me, and frankly; I am just trying to explain a flaw in a fews word -- that are stretched out amongst our world -- which happens to encompass major fields.
Take a scientific field if this truly matters to you beyond basic communication. Also, your run-ons are getting extremely aggravating to read.

You may not see the damage it can cause; but I do. Whenever someone tells me that they are intelligent. I think to myself: they can absorb knowledge and use a vocabulary they've spent time on learning -- how does this make them intelligent -- if they aren't aware of things that does not take regurgitated notes and information to obtain?]
You derived completely opinionated conclusions from a simple statement. Stop over-thinking. This sounds like a personal problem, and not one in society.

Then you realise, that awareness and ignorance are the most balanced way of expressing one's level of perception and what is of it.
No, actually they are clear definitions of the extent of one's ability to recognize a situation and one's quantity of knowledge on a subject, respectively. Although the terms can be mischaracterized, there is nothing wrong with the definitions.

That if people are lead to believe that they are ''intelligent'' they aren't going to pursue a greater level of perception, because they are too caught up in their own pretentious web of fabricated facts that only derive from interpretations.
You cannot predict the future for each of us; and this does not help your "argument".

Lol.

The word is flawed. You are the one who is getting aggravating by not discussing with me. You act as if though I am stupid because I am pushing one simple different theory that contradicts your world of perspective through my eyes, and I only wish to keep on trying to see if I can form a tangible variable that will convince you that perhaps the term needs to be revamped.

I'm not over-thinking. Something is completely off about these terms. How am I over-thinking?

There is something wrong with the terms. They do not line up with expression. They are vague, and entirely ambiguous -- let alone substanceless. It's like trying to put up a tent with straws.

Oh, I was implying that it perpetually harms the atmosphere of communication due present.

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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 02:18 PM

At 1/28/12 02:09 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:57 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: You cannot predict the future for each of us; and this does not help your "argument".
The word is flawed. You are the one who is getting aggravating by not discussing with me.

I am discussing your convoluted argument.

You act as if though I am stupid because I am pushing one simple different theory that contradicts your world of perspective through my eyes

You have not stated a theory at all - merely, denied rationality and commenced to ask ludicrous questions.

I'm not over-thinking. Something is completely off about these terms. How am I over-thinking?

You have yet to explain what is "off" about these terms when they so adequately describe basic emotions.

There is something wrong with the terms. They do not line up with expression. They are vague, and entirely ambiguous -- let alone substanceless.

They are not vague at all. A two-year-old knows what anger is. A squirrel knows what fear is.

Oh, I was implying that it perpetually harms the atmosphere of communication due present.

Believe me, basic communication is fine until you try to complicate things by ignoring sensibility.


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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 02:26 PM

At 1/28/12 02:09 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote: ....You are the one who is getting aggravating by not discussing with me.

If she spoke to you, everything would suddenly heal? We'll say this again, don't be so quick to seize the upper hand. It's perfectly alright that you wish to share your views with the world, but slowly you're going to grow into a beast that aims to suppress us. You're not trying to stand above us, but you will try. Oh, you'll try so very hard when that day comes. It it comes.

....You act as if though I am stupid because I am pushing one simple different theory that contradicts your world of perspective through my eyes...

She never called your stupid. At least, she does not mean to. We've seen how people can sound harsher than they mean over the web. The point here is, she doesn't understand what you're saying. It's as plain as that. Explain yourself in a way that people can understand.

Sorry for barging into your conversation, I tend to do that in online arguments.
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Response to Tell me. What is exactly anger? Jan. 28th, 2012 @ 02:30 PM

At 1/28/12 02:18 PM, EmmaVolt wrote:
At 1/28/12 02:09 PM, BlackHoleLogic wrote:
At 1/28/12 01:57 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: You cannot predict the future for each of us; and this does not help your "argument".
The word is flawed. You are the one who is getting aggravating by not discussing with me.
I am discussing your convoluted argument.

You act as if though I am stupid because I am pushing one simple different theory that contradicts your world of perspective through my eyes
You have not stated a theory at all - merely, denied rationality and commenced to ask ludicrous questions.

I'm not over-thinking. Something is completely off about these terms. How am I over-thinking?
You have yet to explain what is "off" about these terms when they so adequately describe basic emotions.

There is something wrong with the terms. They do not line up with expression. They are vague, and entirely ambiguous -- let alone substanceless.
They are not vague at all. A two-year-old knows what anger is. A squirrel knows what fear is.

Oh, I was implying that it perpetually harms the atmosphere of communication due present.
Believe me, basic communication is fine until you try to complicate things by ignoring sensibility.

If it's not convoluted in my eyes; why call it convoluted?

It's irrational to deny that these terms are lacking communicative backbone. What is intelligence? It says -- ability to learn and understand or to deal with new or trying situations -- when awareness could not only subsitute for that definition but can act as a universal component that also has an opposite which is known as ignorance. Intelligence's opposite is ''dumb''. Awareness > Intelligence in terms of terms.

They are not. Awareness is much greater of a word to define one's ability to absorb information and manifest it. Not ''intelligence''.

That's because a 2 year old is a parrot that copies what we say. They do not apply their own intuition to cut down the roots of these words that we use and say ''Hey! Something is not right here!''.

Basic communication is fine. Terms -- in which are supposed to be there to allow us to express our world -- that are flawed, should be attended to. It's vague. It's boneless. It's just a slapped on label with no real thought applied to it.