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Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:00:34 Reply

I was just thinking about that YouTube and other sites had changed from Flash to HTML5 and I am just guessing will Newgrounds do the same? Of course they can't change the Flash games over to HTML5, but maybe make a brand new portal for HTML5 games?

Discuss!

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:01:57 Reply

I wondered before what would happen. It would be nice to get a post from an admin or something in here.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:08:51 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:02 PM, Xyphon202 wrote: No, because you can steal the code in HTML5 and also having a portal would require moderation for security reasons before users are allowed to view the game themselves.

Plus TomFulp fucks the owners of Adobe.

I know the HTML5 is still a little unfinished to take over Flash Player, but my point is that it's the future and maybe Newgorunds should stick to HTML5 just to try.

If you think that people can view your source, you can minimize the code to make it almost unreadable. Or there's a way to just hide it.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:28:07 Reply

I do not know what HTML5 is.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:29:41 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:28 PM, comicretard wrote: I do not know what HTML5 is.

Heres where you live.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:31:44 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:07 PM, Rummy0 wrote: No because Flash is superior in every way

Wake up, Flash is on it's way out.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:33:59 Reply

I looked it up. I give rocks a good name.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:35:24 Reply

I hate all these new HTML updates trying to make things more streamlined and pretty looking. It'd be ironic if Newgrounds went from Flash to HTML.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 19:37:09 Reply

I think they should try it. For one, people with the iOS devices and phones without Flash Player would be able to use Newgrounds a lot more easier.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 20:30:23 Reply

I think NG should support both HTML 5 and Flash.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 20:34:27 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:37 PM, UnknownFear wrote: I think they should try it. For one, people with the iOS devices and phones without Flash Player would be able to use Newgrounds a lot more easier.

Implying Apple even cares. They just want their own store to cover more ground with applications replacing what flash usually does so they get more money.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 20:37:48 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:35 PM, jjjkuk wrote: I hate all these new HTML updates trying to make things more streamlined and pretty looking. It'd be ironic if Newgrounds went from Flash to HTML.

How DARE you hate the core language of the Internet application?!


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 22:26:36 Reply

I don't hate html, I was just mentioning what it was. I hate those useless updates that don't always work as fast as plain text or buttons or whatever.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 22:29:08 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:31 PM, CharltonChinchilla wrote:
At 1/24/12 07:07 PM, Rummy0 wrote: No because Flash is superior in every way
Wake up, Flash is on it's way out.

Dude, with AS3 Flash is never gonna be on it's way out. Stop trolling me.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 22:32:39 Reply

At 1/24/12 10:29 PM, hiddeninthecrowd wrote:
At 1/24/12 07:31 PM, CharltonChinchilla wrote:
At 1/24/12 07:07 PM, Rummy0 wrote: No because Flash is superior in every way
Wake up, Flash is on it's way out.
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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 23:45:16 Reply

HTML isn't an animation tool, though it can be used in conjunction with scripting languages to create games etc. it's really quite different from flash and I don't think that either can replace the other.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-24 23:48:30 Reply

Probably not, but it would be interesting if they did add an HTML5 portal.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 01:02:37 Reply

Who cares? Animators can always convert their files so they match the upload.

Its the coders that'll have to switch to a new language and they have to switch every few years as it is anyway.

going from AS2 > AS3 / C > C+ / etc.

So I why would anyone really care?

The only thing I'll miss is the right click that flash has. You know, the one where you get to pause and zoom in and shit.

But most people put in buttons or disable that anyway.

I just realized something. Shockwave lets you see things in pure vector format. Converting your file to a video format results in a lot of quality loss...
Seeing that shockwave files are so small, I don't think a lot of sites will really let flash "die out"

You know...saving servers space or whatever.

OH WELL WHAT DO I KNOW. I don't care, converting your end result isn't a big issue. Every flash animator does it for youtube anyway.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 01:26:00 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:28 PM, comicretard wrote: I do not know what HTML5 is.

You're welcome.

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 02:36:14 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:31 PM, CharltonChinchilla wrote:
At 1/24/12 07:07 PM, Rummy0 wrote: No because Flash is superior in every way
Wake up, Flash is on it's way out.

I find this to be highly unlikely. How the hell are you supposed to efficiently animate with HTML?


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 02:42:16 Reply

I always thought HTML5 was just that thing Apple kept stubbornly promoting because they can't reach a deal with Flash. And assumed thr HTML5 hype would be over once Apple finally make the deal. But then I can't pretend to know anything about this all really.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 05:12:12 Reply

At 1/24/12 07:07 PM, Rummy0 wrote: No because Flash is superior in every way, this is why the iPhone doesn't support Flash and why their partner company Adobe decided not to release any more mobile versions of flash. Apple would lose a lot of money that could be made from the AppStore due to games being made/remade in Flash.

Apple calls it a "battery hog", but their iPhone 4S is a real battery hog due to Siri.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 10:02:14 Reply

No,newgrounds is not a HTML5 portal.It's a Flash Portal.I'm pretty sure many users(maybe inclunding me) will leave NG if this happens


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 10:46:58 Reply

I heard Tom's looking to add unity3d, video, and html5 portals eventually.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 11:01:19 Reply

At 1/25/12 10:46 AM, Manly-Chicken wrote: I heard Tom's looking to add unity3d, video, and html5 portals eventually.

Sauce please.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 12:42:54 Reply

At 1/25/12 10:46 AM, Manly-Chicken wrote: I heard Tom's looking to add unity3d, video, and html5 portals eventually.

That would be awesome. Really, if they add more platforms that would make Newgrounds grow!

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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 13:10:23 Reply

I think I heard something about that. So probably. It is the way forward & we can't be left behind.
http://www.newgrounds.com/html5/


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 13:56:01 Reply

There will never be "html5" and "unity" portals. there will simply be submission categories for games and movies, independent of how they were made. So when you play a game, it could be Flash or Unity or HTML5 and when you watch a movie, it could be Flash or video. Video will be played via an SWF video player on desktop computers for as long as that player is cooler than an html5 video player would be. On mobile, video could be watched on an html5 player and html5 games could be accessible.

All this stuff is down the road but has been bottlenecked by the current objective of getting this redesign done. The redesign lays the initial groundwork by removing the word "Flash" just about everywhere possible.

I'm still a huge fan of Flash, albeit Macromedia Flash (Flash 8) and not Adobe Flash. Having ENJOYED working with Flash so much for over a decade, I don't think it's going away any time soon but there are lots of other platforms out there that we'll be addressing.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 14:17:01 Reply

So it's nothing more than an expansion. And if that's the case then we don't need to worry about anything getting lost.


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Response to Will Newgrounds Go Over To Html5? 2012-01-25 20:56:15 Reply

I'm really glad Newgrounds will support HTML5 in the future. Recently, a HTML5 version of Game Maker came out. When I was a kid I spent countless hours making (shitty) games in Game Maker, and I'd love to do so again.


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