At 4/18/12 04:47 AM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote:
At 4/18/12 04:39 AM, Halberd wrote:
I'm not an anti-semite or anything but does anyone else think that Iran is a little bit justified for hating Israel?no after World War I the ottoman empire lost a substantial amount of land to pay off war reperations and gave control Israel to britain which made the British Mandate which was promised to the Jews after World War II and Israel was founded to a country after independence of britain and recognized by the UN as a official country and all surrounding muslim countries got butt hurt and attacked israel.
I mean didn't the Israel take their land or something and then started bombing Muslims and getting away with it or something?
I don't know much about these Middle-Eastern problems so idk
No. They had promised the Jews a state in Palestine during WWI if they would revolt, which the Jews did, they also promised the Arabs a state if they revolted, which they did. In the end the Arabs found themselves cut up into many new countries and fighting the British and French to no avail as the British and French used artillery, bombers and chemical weapons on them indiscriminately especially on the civilian centers. In Palestine that happened as well, but there the British got even more intense and would often fill up buses with Arabs then drive them over a land mine as well as using the Arabs as human shields against their land mines. Meanwhile the Jews also began insurgent groups, particularly terrorist ones, and when they committed some pretty big terrorist attacks like the David Hotel Bombing Britain responded by...giving them their own state (and you wonder why people in the Middle East feel terrorism is the answer!). Meanwhile the Arabs who simply felt that the UN would be sensible and not deprive a people who had been living on the land for thousands of years of their land. Now they were just simply ignored. The Neighboring Arab states were outraged at this and invaded, of course don't let the sizes of the countries fool you, the Arab states had very few weapons and combined their armies only numbered half the Israeli force, on top of that they didn't have the training the Israeli's did as the Israeli's got fresh troops from WWII, on top of that they weren't very united and were fighting each other more than the Israeli's and didn't really view the Palestinians as a state just as territory to absorb. The only disadvantage Israel had was that they were surrounded. Thus Israel kicked all their asses.
and israel has been under fire ever since if it wasn't for the US.
Nope. They attacked in 1967, but that was more of a miscalculation by Nasser as he probably wouldn't want to go to war when his best troops were fighting in Yemen. Israel was actually almost beat in 1973, but they were able to secure a emergency shipment of arms and munitions and were able to regain their losses. Before 1973 the US didn't give a shit and Israel had been going around as the dominant military power in the region, however due to the Oil Embargo by OPEC the US now had to give a shit about what Israel did and now had to stop it from being assholes to the Palestinians.