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What a surprise, mostly everyone ignored my question and couldn't answer it.

Agreed.

At 1/7/12 03:02 PM, Xyphon202 wrote:

At 1/7/12 02:53 PM, RacistBassist wrote: What a surprise, mostly everyone ignored my question and couldn't answer it.

Or they just didn't feel like arguing with you because you always take online arguments way too seriously.

Killing time is now taking everything seriously?

Besides, isn't it boring if everyone posts the same things?

Yeah, those feminists, they want superiority.

Yeah, I agree.

What he said.

At 1/7/12 03:28 PM, Xyphon202 wrote: It's that you always have a very one sided view on everything. Never any leeway. It's always black or white with you. It's really annoying to argue with someone who can never see the other side of the argument.

Really? May I ask what was one sided about me asking for anyone to point out what common beliefs in feminism actually denote superiority? that is embraced by more then the extreme?

At 1/7/12 03:37 PM, Xyphon202 wrote: First of all, the problem people have with feminism isn't exactly the "common beliefs" to begin with. It's the feminists themselves. They want all of the positives. They are disgusted with men who hit women, don't pay for women, etc, which is a huge double standard and if women can't give a little then they shouldn't get a little. Another thing is that many MANY feminists think that they are actually superior to men, and that men are just there to make babies.

So basically the problem with feminism is a vocal minority. Again, it is usually men who enforce and are most disgusted about hitting women. Not those darn feminists

Secondly, it's not that your question alone is one sided, it's that you asked the question specifically to provoke people into saying a feminist belief just so you could say "no, that's just extremists", and argue with them.

No, it's a statement pointing out how fucking stupid people are for blaming the feminism movement (Which has several different camps inside of it) for the actions/opinions of a few who get notable because they are vocal and crazy.

Of course people aren't complaining about the idea of women having equal rights, they are complaining about the people who actual try to push this idea forward, as a lot of them(or at least the ones that the media chooses to show), are actually sexist themselves.

And none of them have put anything forward besides "They don't want men to hit women."

Which, you know, also applies to "They don't want people to hit people, especially with huge size and strength differences."

At 1/7/12 03:37 PM, Xyphon202 wrote:

At 1/7/12 03:30 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Really? May I ask what was one sided about me asking for anyone to point out what common beliefs in feminism actually denote superiority? that is embraced by more then the extreme?

First of all, the problem women who want equal rights have with many men isn't exactly the "common beliefs" men have about women to begin with. It's the men themselves. They want all of the positives. They are disgusted with women who want equal pay and rights in society, don't put out, etc, which is a huge double standard and if men can't give a little then they shouldn't get a little. Another thing is that many MANY men think that they are actually superior to women, and that women are just there to make babies.

Hey, you could say similar things about men! Isn't that looking at other sides of the situation? There are extreme views in feminism, but that doesn't mean most women feel that way, just like certain men have extreme views about women, but it would be illogical for women to think all men have those same extreme views (though funnily enough, a lot of men who posted here seem to have some hypocritical extreme views themselves).

Of course people aren't complaining about the idea of women having equal rights, they are complaining about the people who actual try to push this idea forward, as a lot of them(or at least the ones that the media chooses to show), are actually sexist themselves.

I agree with you fully on this. Many women who are extreme feminists (not normal, reasonable 'feminists', mind you) are incredibly misled and don't realize how hypocritical they are being. Everything in moderation. There is nothing wrong with trying to receive equal rights, but there should be somewhat of an equilibrium, where men and women are not above or below each other, but work together with what they can bring to the table not only as what sex they are, but who they are as individuals.

Also, for people saying women not wanting to be hit by men is 'sexist', how does that make sense? Men hitting men shouldn't be any more acceptable (same as women hitting women). Men are abused by women, too. That door swings both ways. People just shouldn't physically abuse each other no matter what their sex is, and that is that. It's not too hard to put two and two together, as long as you are viewing everything from a neutral stance.

At 1/7/12 03:58 PM, Xyphon202 wrote:
Yes, you can say similar things about men. If you would like to discuss this, then make a thread about it.

No thank you, I feel these topics are beaten like dead horses. It's always very one-sided and people don't look at what they are saying themselves, and realizing they may even be contradicting their own values and preachings.

No no, I am referring to women who think it is okay to hit a man but not vice versa. That a man can hit a man any day and a woman can hit a woman and a woman can hit a man but if a man hits a woman he's a pig.

I sadly do know women who feel this way, and that is terrible. I don't see how that could be okay or make sense to someone. There are other things similar to this (like that a man should always pay for dates, dinner, or that men should always be the ones who go to war, etc.), and I feel bad for those people who don't see the hypocrisy or asininity in their beliefs.

Fuck, we gettin' intense up in here.

At 1/7/12 02:53 PM, RacistBassist wrote: What a surprise, mostly everyone ignored my question and couldn't answer it.

I didn't ignore it, actually, I agree with you on this matter.

Don't you guys know? Gynocracy IS the new equality! But you all just don't see the rational logic behind it because you're too blinded by your patriarchal class structures and totem poles of power. Guess the only people able to see it will be our new race of woman-exclusive humans. After all, lesbianism is the highest form of feminism, so says academia

IDC about femminists/cultists/extremeists in general so...IDC

men are overrated and only good for 4 things

buying stuff

serving us to are needs

penises

and there brother penises

At 1/7/12 05:37 PM, tsukikomi wrote: men are overrated and only good for 4 things

penises

and there brother penises

hoe bag >:(

At 1/7/12 01:06 PM, Rummy0 wrote: Likes dubstep, uses lens-flare, tried to embed a Youtube video on a BBS post...... yeah you're totally not an idiot.

None of those make me an idiot. But you saying that, makes you look like an idiot.

At 1/7/12 05:30 PM, yurgenburgen wrote:

At 1/7/12 02:53 PM, RacistBassist wrote: What a surprise, mostly everyone ignored my question and couldn't answer it.

I didn't ignore it, actually, I agree with you on this matter.

Then it wasn't addressed to you :P

At 1/7/12 03:48 PM, Xyphon202 wrote: The vocal minority has a huge influence on people. So yes, the vocal minority is the main problem. And maybe the hitting women thing is usually men, but the paying for women's dinner/dates and things like that are certainly more enforced by women.

Most feminists are part of the "whoever invites out pays, each person pays half, each persons pays for what they got: respective camps. This is more society in generals views being imposed on the feminist movement. BEsides, those are social issues.

But the few who are crazy are often spokespeople for the feminist movement and they are often the biggest influences towards the feminist movement. That's the problem. A bunch of sexist hypocrites are trying to get what they call "equal rights", when really it is just superiority.

Which rights do they want that they don't want men to have?

Well, besides the whole abortion thing since men can't really do that. The crazies get attention, that doesn't mean they have a following that actually heeds their beliefs. Look at Westboro. Everyone knows about them. Less then 0 people actually support them.

They don't want men to hit women, they don't want men to not pay for them, they don't want men to exist for any reason than to be milked for semen, they don't want men to exist and would rather just have mass amounts of semen to bathe in.

They don't want anyone to hit anyone, it's just more highlighted with how the legal system used to just overlook spousal abuse. Again, that is entirely a personal belief about dating. Many guys don't like girls who don't put out by the third date and drop them. OH MY GOD THE MASCULINE MOVEMENT WANTS TO FORCE WOMEN INTO HAVING SEX AGAINST THEIR WILL. Out of all of the feminists I know, only none want men gone or only used for the semen.

Those are the people that people dislike. Not the quiet majority that hardly does anything to begin with, but yes, the loud minority who is pushing a good movement forward, yet they are twisting it to make it sexist to follow their own hypocritical ideals.

Yes, and that happens with everything. The people who throw entire groups under the bus like Atheism, Christianity, Islam, Fascism, Capitalism, Communism, and Bronies also end up in an argument with me.

People NEVER complain about the quiet majority, it never works that way. Why? Because they are quiet. Why complain about them? It would not be thread-worthy to make a thread about the feminists who don't say or do anything and quietly support the group, but it does make sense to complain and perhaps share your views with other like-minded people on a forum about the feminists who are hypocritical and sexist in their own backwards ways.

The main difference is the sweeping generalizations being used and absolutely zero distinctions being made between the 90% of normals and 10% of extremists.

the problem with feminism is really about balance, they have none. Any group is gonna be defined by the extremes of what they believe, which is represented by their leaders.
If the extremes of their core ideas goes as far as being balanced and just following what the ideas dict them, then it's okay. The problem is that very few, if no groups, can ever achieve such balance.

here's a video be more clear on the subject....

also when there are people like this representing the ideologies of feminism, I truly have a hard time taking them seriously.

I'm no feminist I think equality should be for both sexes, but it is amazing the amount i have seen on the net and this forum has some bad stuff assuming female don't use this site sometimes. I think men should be treated the same with fairness. Still got a long way to go sadly. I wont name sites but a gaming forum had a sexicist thread and no mods locked it. not all sites are like that though.

Being a Caucasian Straight Male is getting harder and harder.

At 1/6/12 09:36 PM, AlexDecay wrote: I think it's funny that women can't admit that they're the weaker sex in just about every way.

Femenists are probably born from hearing guys say things like this. Of course we're physically weaker on average, but our brains are the same in terms of potential intelligence.

Maybe people should stop acting like the voices of few outweigh the voices of many

I really hope you meant this 'generally'. Since, well.. 99% of our human race are ignorant enough to be lead by others rather than themselves. ^-^

I mean.. If they weren't so ignorant.. In a general sense, Martin Luther King Jr. wouldn't have dealt with the lunacy that he did.

Lmfao.

I know this has been said... but any group attempting to blame one problem for all the other problems in this fucked up world of ours is just idiotic. It goes for about every single radical group in existence.

That's life.

At 1/7/12 08:26 PM, RPGShadow wrote: also when there are people like this representing the ideologies of feminism, I truly have a hard time taking them seriously.

Dear God that cunt is annoying. "It's sexist because a woman sings about how all she wants in life is her man, and if it were a man singing it it would border on stalker." (Not verbatim)

Then the Santa song. Seriously. She doesn't even give reasons. She just states "Either the mom was cheating or it was the kids dad."

Didn't give a fuck or pay attention about the next two.

Then, baby it's cold outside.

Out of all of the things she attacks, she attacks him for not wanting her to go in the cold. And complimenting her. And trying to coerce to have sex. Because that makes it be rapes.

I can't trust women to be in high positions of power unless they are sane. Unlike Mrs. Bachmann over there with the crazy eyes...

I don't mind femenism as long as it's not that stereotypical raging dyke type femenism that the op described. But to be honest, how often do you really see that? It's not like you walk down the street and see a femenist rally with signs that say "Everything's mens' fault!" Although there are several femenists who are actually like that, just like there is with any stereotype.

Basically, the kind of fememism that's okay says "Look, this is an issue and here's a legitimate way to fix it." And by that I don't mean "The issue is that women are getting raped, and a legitimate solution would be forcing all men to take mandatory classes to teach them why it's not okay to be selfish pigs!"

I don't hear about a lot of the good femenism, I mostly hear about the one-sided stereotypical femensim about women who laugh at men getting their dicks cut off.

Feminism; the idea that one genders problems are greater than the others.

At 1/7/12 11:53 PM, Ganon-Dorf wrote: Feminism; the idea that one genders problems are greater than the others.

But that's entirely true, and the other gender is responsible, unfortunately.

I'm sure there's some organizations out their that actually tries to be taken seriously. I just yet to find one.

Fuck, some say that men were a "biological accident."