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At 12/30/11 12:03 AM, SBWcreter911 wrote: I agree.But do you wanna stop this because its gonna get ugly or do you wanna stop because less people are commenting on this thread.

....No comment.

At 12/29/11 11:02 PM, escobargames wrote: "12 How you are fallen from heaven,
O Lucifer, son of the morning!
How you are cut down to the ground,
You who weakened the nations!
13 For you have said in your heart:
'I will ascend into heaven,
I will exalt my throne above the stars of God;
I will also sit on the mount of the congregation
On the farthest sides of the north;
14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds,
I will be like the Most High.'" Isaiah 14:12-14

That's actually the very verse I was talking about. In the second "line" of line 12, that whole thing translates into, "Helel Ben Shachar" which is literally, "Shining Son of Dawn"

Helel Ben Shachar in this passage refers to Nebuchadnezzar.

Here's a link that explains the differences.

At 12/29/11 11:45 PM, Sequenced wrote:

At 12/29/11 08:15 PM, BobaDobo wrote: The whole Illuminati conspiracy is bullshit and so are you.

that's what they WANT you to think

no THEY want you to think and have supicious doubts about the illuminati to distract you from the so called bigger picture which supposedly exists just to distract you from the fact that THEY want you to think these things just so you don't notice how THEY are controlling you (2/5$ half off)

At 12/30/11 12:25 AM, BizzarroPMP wrote:
Here's a link that explains the differences.

Well, you entitled to your opinion, or persuasion, verses can have more than one meaning.

At 12/30/11 12:29 AM, dontpanic01 wrote:

At 12/29/11 11:45 PM, Sequenced wrote:

At 12/29/11 08:15 PM, BobaDobo wrote: The whole Illuminati conspiracy is bullshit and so are you.

that's what they WANT you to think

no THEY want you to think and have supicious doubts about the illuminati to distract you from the so called bigger picture which supposedly exists just to distract you from the fact that THEY want you to think these things just so you don't notice how THEY are controlling you (2/5$ half off)

THEY don't really have to do anything, the majority just kind of goes to sleep and follows the norm.

At 12/29/11 08:45 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/29/11 08:21 PM, Tateos wrote: The "Illuminati" conspiracy is not real.
It's a pile of bullshit that was probably concocted by trolls at 4Chan. It's the same as the whole "2012 end of the world" thing; it was built off of a ludicrous assumption based off of thin, inadequate, synthetic evidence and then continued to grow.

The 2012 'end of the world thing' is based off the Mayan Calendar, which ends at the end of 2012, not trolls. I'm not saying that is the end of the world, but it is interesting that the Mayan's Calendar goes all the way up until this date.

Educate yourself. The Mayan calender is based off of multiple cycles, and December 21st, 2012 just so happens to be the 14th time the b'ak'tun, a 144,000 day period, will complete it's cycle. It isn't significant. It's not the end of the Mayan Calender, it's just the beginning of a new cycle. To say that the end of the 13th b'ak'tun means the end of the world would practically be saying that the world has ended 12 times before. I'm telling you, the whole 2012 being the end of the world thing was started by either a misconception or someone trying to stir up shit.

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote:

Educate yourself. derp

Whats the difference? It is still significant. You underestimate the Mayans.

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote: Educate yourself. The Mayan calender is based off of multiple cycles, and December 21st, 2012 just so happens to be the 14th time the b'ak'tun, a 144,000 day period, will complete it's cycle. It isn't significant. It's not the end of the Mayan Calender, it's just the beginning of a new cycle. To say that the end of the 13th b'ak'tun means the end of the world would practically be saying that the world has ended 12 times before. I'm telling you, the whole 2012 being the end of the world thing was started by either a misconception or someone trying to stir up shit.

The long count is only 13 baktuns long. There is no 14th. It is the end of the Mayan calendar.

I think it's great that you don't want to be taken in by doomsday hype, but that one small detail actually is true.

At 12/30/11 12:43 AM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote:

Educate yourself. derp

Whats the difference? It is still significant. You underestimate the Mayans.

Hahahahahahaha no.
I don't underestimate the Mayans. You people misinterpret cycles somehow. The b'ak'tun is similar to how we have the yearly cycle. It's not an end to the world. The Mayans would celebrate the end of cycles such as the b'ak'tun just like how we celebrate the new year on December 31st. What I said was not a claim that they were wrong or anything like that. They never foretold the end of the world. People have just decided that the end of a cycle on the Mayan calender was them trying to tell us that the end of the world is coming, but that's not it. It's the end of a cycle that has ended 12 (or 13, I'm not sure if the calender starts at 0 or not) times before.

At 12/30/11 12:50 AM, Tateos wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:43 AM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote:

Educate yourself. derp

Whats the difference? It is still significant. You underestimate the Mayans.

Hahahahahahaha no.
I don't underestimate the Mayans.

You clearly do, and I did not say the world was ending, their calendar was clearly setup that way for a reason.

Don't worry, when people are being hauled away by the truckload they'll still think they're going on some fun road trip, so don't bother.

At 12/30/11 12:45 AM, BizzarroPMP wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote: Educate yourself. The Mayan calender is based off of multiple cycles, and December 21st, 2012 just so happens to be the 14th time the b'ak'tun, a 144,000 day period, will complete it's cycle. It isn't significant. It's not the end of the Mayan Calender, it's just the beginning of a new cycle. To say that the end of the 13th b'ak'tun means the end of the world would practically be saying that the world has ended 12 times before. I'm telling you, the whole 2012 being the end of the world thing was started by either a misconception or someone trying to stir up shit.

The long count is only 13 baktuns long. There is no 14th. It is the end of the Mayan calendar.

I think it's great that you don't want to be taken in by doomsday hype, but that one small detail actually is true.

I think you're mistaken. The Mayans believed that this was the fourth world and that the 3rd world ended at the start of the 14th b'ak'tun. The Mayan Calender has 4 higher orders than the b'ak'tun. 4 measurements of time that are longer than the date that some people think to be the end of the world. The Mayans even predicted events that would occur beyond the 14th b'ak'tun.

At 12/30/11 12:53 AM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:50 AM, Tateos wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:43 AM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/30/11 12:38 AM, Tateos wrote:

Educate yourself. derp

Whats the difference? It is still significant. You underestimate the Mayans.

Hahahahahahaha no.
I don't underestimate the Mayans.

You clearly do, and I did not say the world was ending, their calendar was clearly setup that way for a reason.

Yeah, to tell time. The b'ak'tun was established as part of the Mayan Long Count calender that they made for very long periods of time.

Sorry for the double post, I forgot to copy/paste this into my other post before I posted it.

At 12/30/11 01:08 AM, Tateos wrote: I think you're mistaken. The Mayans believed that this was the fourth world and that the 3rd world ended at the start of the 14th b'ak'tun. The Mayan Calender has 4 higher orders than the b'ak'tun. 4 measurements of time that are longer than the date that some people think to be the end of the world.

Upon more research, you're right about that.

:The Mayans even predicted events that would occur beyond the 14th b'ak'tun.

Now this I actually did hear about. I must have forgotten.

The Illuminati conspiracy has so many holes in it because the conspiracy theorists believe that speculations are valid enough to be used as proof.

The Illuminati rule the world, they own everything, including your laptops and T.V's!

They are the one who pay your parents, your allowance and even your lunch money.

Do you know why? Because they own all them money in the world. They print it.

They own you.

There's some conspiracy for you. Now you know the truth, you have to stop spending money, and to show your commitment against the evil money, send the cash to me. I'll burn it......