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At 12/20/11 08:56 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:55 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:54 PM, escobargames wrote: How did it happen then, it made itself?

Have you never heard of evolution? It is supported by a significant amount of evidence.

What evidence?

First of all, consider the fact that scientists have actually observed it happening with microorganisms. Second, consider fossils, radiometric dating ( and other dating methods), vestigial structures, etc. Other than the Bible, what evidence is there supporting Biblical creation? Don't just try and point out flaws in the evidence I provided for evolution as if that proves your beliefs. I want actual evidence for Biblical creation.

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At 12/20/11 08:59 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:56 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:55 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:54 PM, escobargames wrote: How did it happen then, it made itself?

Have you never heard of evolution? It is supported by a significant amount of evidence.

What evidence?

First of all, consider the fact that scientists have actually observed it happening with microorganisms. Second, consider fossils, radiometric dating ( and other dating methods), vestigial structures, etc. Other than the Bible, what evidence is there supporting Biblical creation? Don't just try and point out flaws in the evidence I provided for evolution as if that proves your beliefs. I want actual evidence for Biblical creation.

They have observed microevolution, which is a polar bear, brown bear, black bear, etc., they have not witnessed macroevolution, like a frog turning into another species. Microevolution is completely biblical. I could give you evidence, but it really doesn't matter, hundreds of prophecies have been fulfilled in the bible, but to be a Christian you need faith, science doesn't even matter, even though it does not prove MACROEVOLUTION. Yeah, so, you can call me dumb, but in reality, your IQ is about 95 tops.

At 12/20/11 09:04 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:59 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:56 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:55 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

At 12/20/11 08:54 PM, escobargames wrote: How did it happen then, it made itself?

Have you never heard of evolution? It is supported by a significant amount of evidence.

What evidence?

First of all, consider the fact that scientists have actually observed it happening with microorganisms. Second, consider fossils, radiometric dating ( and other dating methods), vestigial structures, etc. Other than the Bible, what evidence is there supporting Biblical creation? Don't just try and point out flaws in the evidence I provided for evolution as if that proves your beliefs. I want actual evidence for Biblical creation.

They have observed microevolution, which is a polar bear, brown bear, black bear, etc., they have not witnessed macroevolution, like a frog turning into another species.

Now you're making the depressingly common misconception that microevolution and macroevolution do not go hand in hand. They clearly do. Macroevolution is microevolution over a long period of time.

Microevolution is completely biblical. I could give you evidence, but it really doesn't matter, hundreds of prophecies have been fulfilled in the bible, but to be a Christian you need faith, science doesn't even matter, even though it does not prove MACROEVOLUTION.

You mean those absurdly vague prophesies like they have in other religious holy books? Don't even get me started. Faith doesn't prove anything. If you jumped off a building with complete faith that you would land unharmed, do you think it would actually happen? Of course not.

At 12/20/11 09:11 PM, Ilssm wrote: That and the fact he keeps referring to the Christian Bible, which even though it has a lot of flaws discovered by science, doesn't mean that some kind of God does not exist.

Of course a god of some sort could exist, but that doesn't make it likely. Even the god of the Bible isn't entirely impossible.

At 12/20/11 09:10 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

Now you're making the depressingly common misconception that microevolution and macroevolution do not go hand in hand. They clearly do. Macroevolution is microevolution over a long period of time.

No they don't, it is impossible to witness macro-evolution, they are two different things, this debate is over, your wasting my time, and you are a fucking idiot.

At 12/20/11 09:17 PM, Ilssm wrote:

Of course a god of some sort could exist, but that doesn't make it likely. Even the god of the Bible isn't entirely impossible.

That's all I wanted to suck :)

Its ok, just drink water after.

At 12/20/11 09:10 PM, Winrar1337 wrote: Now you're making the depressingly common misconception that microevolution and macroevolution do not go hand in hand. They clearly do. Macroevolution is microevolution over a long period of time.

Not to defend your opponent's misconstrued argument, but microevolution is not short-term macroevolution. Micro depends on adaptation and deletion of non-mutational information in genes. Macroevolution theory suggest that somewhere down the line information was added in such significant amount (never observed, but for the sake of the argument), that not only did a new species appear from a previous species, but that new species was completely compatible with one with the exact same chromosomes.

Then, for some reason, this information was haphazardly deleted and rearranged in the most unadaptable and unnecessary ways (ie: fish to lizards [?]). How anyone can make a connection between adaptation within families and interpretational genetic jumps without even the slightest proven gap connection is beyond me. Long-term microevolution is still microevoluton. Anything beyond this is total speculation. I am baffled by both sides' inability to see their own blind foolishness.

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At 12/20/11 09:28 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 09:17 PM, Ilssm wrote:

Of course a god of some sort could exist, but that doesn't make it likely. Even the god of the Bible isn't entirely impossible.

That's all I wanted to suck :)

Its ok, just drink water after.

Leave Newgrounds and never come back you son of a bitch.

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At 12/19/11 10:41 PM, Ilssm wrote: "-I'll be with ya' in a sec, I just saw an Atheist behind you in line..."

hahahahahahaha because Atheists are horrible people right? hahahahaha

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At 12/20/11 10:28 PM, Ilssm wrote: Are you insulting me or him?

I'm pretty sure he's talking to escobar. He really hates it when people express disbelief in any god or gods.

Also, my bad about that misunderstanding.

All I'm looking for is reassurance that everything is OK.
So if I die and go to heaven The number one thing I want to hear is.
"It's OK Ian, Everything is OK there's no more pain."

I know it sounds lame, but I want to believe things will get better.
Maybe when I'm dead things will be better.

End Emo moment

At 12/20/11 09:31 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: I am baffled by both sides' inability to see their own blind foolishness.

Why, you are just restating on what I said, your just over complicating it to appear unbiased.

I would like to add that not one fossil has been found that is a spices evolving into another species (macro evolution).

At 12/20/11 09:14 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:

I can't take you seriously with that fucking username.

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Welcome to my kingdom Jonathan

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At 12/20/11 10:28 PM, Ilssm wrote:

Leave Newgrounds and never come back you son of a bitch.

Are you insulting me or him?

I am talking to escobargames, who constantly edits quoted text and dusrespects the Newgrounds community.

At 12/21/11 10:02 AM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/20/11 09:31 PM, EmmaVolt wrote: I am baffled by both sides' inability to see their own blind foolishness.

Why, you are just restating on what I said, your just over complicating it to appear unbiased.

I would like to add that not one fossil has been found that is a spices evolving into another species (macro evolution).

Actually, Emma made a good, detailed argument while you basically just said "you're wrong and stupid" in the end. You didn't really argue against my claim that macroevolution is long-term microevolution, but simply restated your claim and resorted to name calling.

As if that isn't bad enough, you didn't even have the balls to attempt to argue against the other evidence I provided, nor did you find actual evidence for biblical creation like I asked for. Well actually, you did address the part about fossils just now, though several hours late, and once again doing little more than simply saying "You're wrong!"

Fossils clearly indicate common descent when coupled with the dating methods. It is nearly certain that Homo Habilis lived before Homo Erectus, and that Homo Neanderthalensis came soon afterward. Only the most stubborn people could study the fossils of these species (while keeping in mind the time periods in which they existed) without seeing a clear indication of gradual change.

You guys are all so cute arguing with your emotionless emoticons, it totally makes you look serious and adult, and all like "I'm so inteligent you're a dumbass".

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At 12/21/11 06:44 PM, Winrar1337 wrote: Fossils clearly indicate common descent when coupled with the dating methods. It is nearly certain that Homo Habilis lived before Homo Erectus, and that Homo Neanderthalensis came soon afterward. Only the most stubborn people could study the fossils of these species .

That doesn't prove anything.

At 12/21/11 07:05 PM, escobargames wrote:
That doesn't prove anything.

Why are you still here?

On topic:
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At 12/21/11 07:09 PM, BobaDobo wrote:

Why are you still here?

On topic:
"Hell's full, so I guess you're stuck here with me. Congratulations."

Hell will never be full.

At 12/21/11 07:05 PM, escobargames wrote:

At 12/21/11 06:44 PM, Winrar1337 wrote: Fossils clearly indicate common descent when coupled with the dating methods. It is nearly certain that Homo Habilis lived before Homo Erectus, and that Homo Neanderthalensis came soon afterward. Only the most stubborn people could study the fossils of these species .

That doesn't prove anything.

I'm sure it doesn't prove anything to someone like you who has probably been thoroughly brainwashed. You have once again failed to come up with a real argument. Simply claiming that I haven't proved anything doesn't make you right.

And if hell exists, 99% of us are going there when we die.

At 12/21/11 07:14 PM, Winrar1337 wrote:
I'm sure it doesn't prove anything to someone like you who has probably been thoroughly brainwashed. You have once again failed to come up with a real argument. Simply claiming that I haven't proved anything doesn't make you right.

All you said was variations of humanoid fossils were found and dated. Somehow you think that proves evolution and disproves God. What do you expect me to say.

At 12/21/11 07:25 PM, escobargames wrote: All you said was variations of humanoid fossils were found and dated. Somehow you think that proves evolution and disproves God. What do you expect me to say.

You didn't understand the rest, apparently. I said that if you look at the differences between the fossils and note the time in which each species lived, it will be obvious that they probably changed gradually over time.