At 1/21/12 06:41 PM, EKublai wrote:
I don't get anyone on here. Obama did so much DESPITE not having a congress fully in power.
Factually incorrect. For the first two years he had a supermajority in the House of Reps and for the first year a fillibuster-proof majority in the Senate. When he lost the fillibuster-proof majority he still had a 58% Democratic majority.
The problem wasn't Republicans. It was Obama would rather be right than govern (the opposite of Clinton), so he couldn't even keep the various parts of his own party together on major issues like Healthcare.
Gays are now allowed to serve in the military. THAT'S A BIG DEAL!
This was pushed through while he had Democratic control. Furthermore, it's not as huge as you think. As someone who joined the military in 2000 and supports gays serving in the military OPENLY (they could serve, in the closet, since the 1990s)...it was gonna happen. Conservative opposition to it was starting to wane. The military was discussing it amongst ourselves.
It just so happens Obama was the president when it did happen.
The U.S now has a federal mandate for healthcare (pending Supreme Court decision). Whether you agree with the actual law is not the concern. IT'S A BIG SOMETHING!
A huge something that he had to fight his own party for! It also remains wildly unpopular with the public, with people on both sides of the argument. Let's say Romney wins in November and the Republicans take the Senate. Congress could repeal it and Romney could sign the repeal...with very minimal political backlash.
Osama bin Ladin is dead. THAT'S HUGE!
Not really. The "bin-Laden bounce" in Obama's approval rating is over. Furthermore, it was not like a) he actually pulled the trigger or b) his anti-terrorism policies led to discovering where he was hiding. In fact the intel trail started with Bush...using techniques Obama opposed.
I mean he did give the go-ahead...but let's not pretend it was all that couragous of a political decision.
Getting out of Iraq. BIG!
Again...not big for Obama but Bush. The timeline was established under Bush...all Obama had to do was...well do nothing. So why would he deserve credit for inaction? I mean we're not talking Nixon making unpopular decisions with both the left and right to end Vietnam.
Obama did nothing.
The recession is over and the recovery seems to be working now. ENORMOUS!
* GDP is only growing at 1.8%, far below what it should be to really count the recession over.
* Unemployment is also very high even though it is dropping. Right now it is 8.5% (15.2% when you include those who are discouraged from looking or underemployed), it had a bump going into Christmas. The question is will it continue past February? If the unemployment rate settles at 8.3-8.5% Obama is in trouble. If it goes up...he's out of office. He needs to consistently trend down from now to the election and get to 8.1-8.2% at least.
* While the government says the recession is over...the median income of US households have dropped while Obama has been in office.
As far as recoveries go...this one is pathetic.
According to Politifact, he has outnumbered his promises kept vs. promises broken 3 to 1. Which means that the overwhelming majority of his presidential campaign in 2008 wasn't based on lofty promises that he could not keep, but on lofty promises he's been fighting for and has been able to accomplished.
That's because he didn't really promise much. He took FDR's campaign tactic of being "not-Hoover" (Obama of course being "not-Bush")...and ran on "hopes and dreams". He didn't lay out how he was going to transform America...he just said he was gonna make things better. People like me hoped he'd turn-out to be like Clinton: a moderate Democrat whose going to 'triangulate' to the center. Others hoped he'd be the messiah of the Left and usher in a radical progressive agenda.
The thing is...he is neither. He is a community organizer whose never produced anything and is used to be an advocate (ie: adverserial) instead of building consensus. He doesn't know how to make public policy work in the real world.
I'm not saying the sun's shining out of his ass, because he has failed at ending partisanship in Washington, but it's frankly ridiculous to say he hasn't brought many of the changes he proposed in '08 to fruition.
The main promise he made in '08 was to turn the economy around. Under his plan unemployment was not going to get over 8.0%...it got over 10%. The rest of his "green jobs", healthcare and community organizing agendas were not and are not relevent to the direction most people want for this country. That's why he's losing the independants and having to tack left to energize his base and pursue a minority coalition campaign strategy.