At 12/14/11 11:55 AM, Xyphon202 wrote:
At 12/14/11 11:41 AM, EmmaVolt wrote:
I've addressed this roughly a hundred times.Okay. Except the child isn't conscious and isn't technically a baby. But okay.
Then, I have no idea what you define as a baby or consciousness, considering both are based on the growth process and not an instantaneous occurrence.
I would say adoption is a much better option.But the women still has to carry what she may think of as demon spawn for 9 months. I doubt anyone wants to carry the child of a rapist. Then after she finally has the baby she has to give it up. What if she doesn't want to have to go through that.
Ignoring the "may" and "doubt" parts, my point about adoption was a suggestion - considering you are hellbent on proving to me that living with this child is a fate (literally) worse than death. This isn't an argument.
Oh yeah, this is a free country.
So, I want to go out and shoot up Columbine again. Why not? It's a free country, after all.
You must be kidding. Maybe I shouldn't have replied to this post at all.How am I kidding. Would you like to grow up knowing your father is a rapist?
You would kill a person based on a prediction of a (subjectively based) quality of life? Perhaps if it was such a big deal, they would commit suicide. For the sake of the argument, wouldn't allowing them to make the decision to end their life be smarter than ending it for them when you have no idea of how they will react?
Well, I guess the mom would never tell the kid. I guess he can just grow up knowing nothing about his father.
Okay this argument is beginning to decay into specific hypotheticals. Let's try to argue from a broader standpoint instead of these.
I really don't understand. Did you expect to make this thread and have everyone agree with you? I'm sure you are well aware that 95% of the Newgrounds BBS population is pro-choice. Or at least, 95% of the people who would respond to your thread are.
No, that is why I made the thread. I was curious about the opinions on this matter, and how much people have thought about it in-depth. I have found that many people only scratch the surface when making such a huge decision. And, no, I am not aware of the general standpoint of abortion on this site. Keep in mind I am not actually asking if abortion should be allowed - but, at what point it becomes murder. Few have actually addressed this question (which is fine).
To (most of) us, it is not murder, because the baby is not conscious and isn't technically a baby yet. To you, it is. But your opinions are never going to change ours and most of us don't even remotely agree with you. So why did you make this thread knowing you would argue about something and never get your point across?
I have a feeling you do not understand the concept of consciousness. I understand that. What is the purpose of forums, exactly, but to discuss? I am getting my point across. I am not attempting to impose my beliefs - instead, I ask questions, and dissect people's opinions to see just how passionate they are about killing children.
This is akin to RacistBassist's "tipping" threads. It's pointless.
Everything we do on BBS is pointless. I don't see how this makes the issue less important. Moreover, I am willing to argue all day if it could potentially save lives. Stop being so mordantly narrow-minded. If you think this is oh, so useless and a waste of time, go elsewhere - those of us who take this seriously will not miss your shallow insight.
Permanently disgusted? Okay.Yes, because you have the audacity to tell other people how to live their lives and tell them they are wrong for having an abortion.
Please show me where I am telling people how to live their lives. I am not discussing legalities. If you had read through my posts, you would have understood this.