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Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:14:05

Hello all, the name is Vincent and I'm working on a fictional universe entitled "Otherworlds." I'm currently constructing a website for it and I was hoping that if any of you have any free time or just found Otherworlds something that catches your intrest, then let me know.

I'm looking for artist to draw some weapons for me. similar to the picture below.

I need both guns and melee weapons of all kinds drawn and if you have a preferance then just let me know. Thank you!

You can add Otherworlds on Facebook here... www.facebook.com/theotherworldsuniverse
You can add MY page to contact me here... www.facebook.com/vincentvindicated27

PM me or post here if you have ANY questions. :)

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:16:05

Definitely wouldn't want a blade at the base of the handle. You're more likely to slice yourself after recoil from firing the gun.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:19:20

How would one holster that weapon exactly?


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:30:40

Haha, I'm sure there is many cases in video games, cartoons and the like that practicality doesn't factor in. I had this gun in an RPG I was working on, where it had a chance of hurting yourself actually and it's also a bandits weapon. (bandits aren't the smartest, think borderlands.)

P.S This Thread isn't about commenting my picture, so stop being rude please.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:34:24

At 12/11/11 10:30 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: stop being rude please.

...that was rude.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 22:40:34

At 12/11/11 10:34 PM, HandsomeCat wrote:
At 12/11/11 10:30 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: stop being rude please.
...that was rude.

I'm sorry if I came off rude, it's obviously not my intentions. I personally only want to discuss the subject of this thread.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 23:01:55

At 12/11/11 10:40 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: I personally only want to discuss the subject of this thread.

Isn't that what they are doing? Discussing your weapon?

anyway. To start, you aren't really giving enough information. we have no clue about this "Otherworld" that you speak of. We don't truly know its era or anything. We can assume from your one picture that it is at least semi-modern but that don't give us much.
Hell I for all we know you want the Penetrator

So how about a little more info before you start asking for free stuff, or else your going to end up with a whole thread filled with dildo based weapons.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 23:17:14

At 12/11/11 11:01 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:
At 12/11/11 10:40 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: I personally only want to discuss the subject of this thread.
Isn't that what they are doing? Discussing your weapon?

anyway. To start, you aren't really giving enough information. we have no clue about this "Otherworld" that you speak of. We don't truly know its era or anything. We can assume from your one picture that it is at least semi-modern but that don't give us much.
Hell I for all we know you want the Penetrator

So how about a little more info before you start asking for free stuff, or else your going to end up with a whole thread filled with dildo based weapons.

This thread is about drawing weapons for Otherworlds, NOT about the drawing I submitted. I was just following the rules, stating that I HAD to submit a picture. As for more detail about Otherworlds, that is a very fair question; there is just really so much to say about it.

Otherworlds is a universe, composed of twelve different planets all which inhabit different species of aliens, factions, weapons and the likes. There are some factions of the worlds that are more deprived of technology and some that are advanced in technology. Otherworlds is about the adventure of exploring the different locations scattered throughout the planets, collecting the best and rarest guns, and for whatever personal reasons your characters has. Some reasons may be for revenge, greed, protecting others, whatever it may be, Otherworlds is about your character and what you want them to do in the universe.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 23:22:19

I don't mean to double post, but I feel that this should be addressed since I made it unclear. I will give you a description of a weapon that I want for you to draw, if you volunteer to do this. This isn't something you make up of your head and I take. (If you have a preference of swords, snipers, etc.. I can easily work that in, just let me know.)

Also, you WILL get full credit for your work and a link to a page you want. I have no problem, giving you what I can.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 23:31:40

At 12/11/11 11:17 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: This thread is about drawing weapons for Otherworlds, NOT about the drawing I submitted. I was just following the rules, stating that I HAD to submit a picture. As for more detail about Otherworlds, that is a very fair question; there is just really so much to say about it.

Actually, that rule doesn't exist anymore. Also, you said draw a weapon like this, so I expressed my opinion on a weapon like that. Is it wrong of me to have freedom of speech?

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-11 23:32:29

At 12/11/11 11:17 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote:
Otherworlds is a universe, composed of twelve different planets all which inhabit different species of aliens, factions, weapons and the likes. There are some factions of the worlds that are more deprived of technology and some that are advanced in technology. Otherworlds is about the adventure of exploring the different locations scattered throughout the planets, collecting the best and rarest guns, and for whatever personal reasons your characters has. Some reasons may be for revenge, greed, protecting others, whatever it may be, Otherworlds is about your character and what you want them to do in the universe.

That is a horribly generic scifi setting.

But I really don't want to get in to the discussion of originality and all that because all it has been done and blah blah blah. But that isn't the point, so I'm going to set that aside.

Ok great you have a whole bunch of factions that all have different levels of technology. All of that mixed with the idea of a unfocused, sandbox styled, RPG is leaving you with a lot of work ahead of you.
This entire Idea seems to lack focus.

Give us a little more than a simple watered down paragraph. Maybe some more concrete like why your story stands out above the rest. What makes your idea unique.
At least then we might know why an entire race uses dildo technology to rule the universe and make everyone where butt plugs.

See with out the right information I'm just going to fill in the gaps with what ever I happen to come up with. And then you'll be upset cause I'll be "Ruining your Universe" and all that jazz...

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:03:11

At 12/11/11 11:32 PM, Kinsei01 wrote:
At 12/11/11 11:17 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote:
Otherworlds is a universe, composed of twelve different planets all which inhabit different species of aliens, factions, weapons and the likes. There are some factions of the worlds that are more deprived of technology and some that are advanced in technology. Otherworlds is about the adventure of exploring the different locations scattered throughout the planets, collecting the best and rarest guns, and for whatever personal reasons your characters has. Some reasons may be for revenge, greed, protecting others, whatever it may be, Otherworlds is about your character and what you want them to do in the universe.
That is a horribly generic scifi setting.
But I really don't want to get in to the discussion of originality and all that because all it has been done and blah blah blah. But that isn't the point, so I'm going to set that aside.
Ok great you have a whole bunch of factions that all have different levels of technology. All of that mixed with the idea of a unfocused, sandbox styled, RPG is leaving you with a lot of work ahead of you.
This entire Idea seems to lack focus.

Give us a little more than a simple watered down paragraph. Maybe some more concrete like why your story stands out above the rest. What makes your idea unique.
At least then we might know why an entire race uses dildo technology to rule the universe and make everyone where butt plugs.
See with out the right information I'm just going to fill in the gaps with what ever I happen to come up with. And then you'll be upset cause I'll be "Ruining your Universe" and all that jazz...

I find it funny that you say that you lack so much information about Otherworlds, yet you think you have enough information collected to call it unoriginal. I'm fully aware that it takes a lot of work, i've had the starting idea of this since I was thirteen and I'm finally mature enough now to organize it and construct it together.

I can already see that your not going to help, so I have no reason to waste my time spilling paragraph after paragraph. If you want to know what makes Otherworlds great it is because there is nothing else like it. Yeah, I know nothing is entirely original, but I strongly believe that it's the individual components of something that brings forth its originality and although every piece could be disected from Otherworlds and be claimed as "unoriginal" when placed together, you can't find anything else like it.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:06:09

I guess the blood would be from your hip/hand after attempting to holster that thing. So +1 point for realism.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:07:11

At 12/11/11 11:31 PM, big-jonny-13 wrote:
At 12/11/11 11:17 PM, KidWickedx33 wrote: This thread is about drawing weapons for Otherworlds, NOT about the drawing I submitted. I was just following the rules, stating that I HAD to submit a picture. As for more detail about Otherworlds, that is a very fair question; there is just really so much to say about it.
Actually, that rule doesn't exist anymore. Also, you said draw a weapon like this, so I expressed my opinion on a weapon like that. Is it wrong of me to have freedom of speech?

No there is nothing wrong with freedom of speech, but there is something wrong with being disrespectful. I didn't ask if my drawing was good and I didn't ask if the gun would or could slice your hand off. I asked simply, if you would mind helping me with some of the artwork. If not then that's fine and if so, then thats great.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:10:42

At 12/12/11 12:06 AM, Pjanoo wrote: I guess the blood would be from your hip/hand after attempting to holster that thing. So +1 point for realism.

Well when your blood crazed and psychotic I could imagine that weapon being very scary on the opposing end, especially if he was cutting himself with it.

+1 point for your close mindedness

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:15:50

=.= can we all, please stop acting like children? Lots of weapon designs make no sense at all but are still neat, this guy is new....explain how threads work, tell him were simply trying to help and just...be cool.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:16:52

At 12/12/11 12:07 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote:
Actually, that rule doesn't exist anymore. Also, you said draw a weapon like this, so I expressed my opinion on a weapon like that. Is it wrong of me to have freedom of speech?
No there is nothing wrong with freedom of speech, but there is something wrong with being disrespectful. I didn't ask if my drawing was good and I didn't ask if the gun would or could slice your hand off. I asked simply, if you would mind helping me with some of the artwork. If not then that's fine and if so, then thats great.

You're taking all this far too personally, and I find it hard to believe that you are having such issue with a little criticism if you are 19 years old. We are helping you with your artwork by telling you the conceptual and technical flaws of it, so you don't make the same mistakes in the future. Also, I find it a bit disappointing that on your website, your intro-bot is pretty much a ripoff of the borderlands intro-bot. What made that connection even easier for me is you mentioning Borderlands earlier in one of your many excuses for this illogical weapon.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:22:41

At 12/12/11 12:15 AM, Captain-Carrion wrote: =.= can we all, please stop acting like children? Lots of weapon designs make no sense at all but are still neat, this guy is new....explain how threads work, tell him were simply trying to help and just...be cool.

Thank you. I just want it clear that I'm not asking for opinions on my submitted weapon. If I wanted it to be critiqued, then I would have asked for it to be. Also, there is a difference between constructive criticism and insulting.

If you feel that strongly about how badly placed the blades are on my gun (which is purposly set that way, I'm fully aware that I wouldn't want to hold that thing.) Then please phrase it something like this.

"I think the drawing is nice and having blades on it is an awesome idea, but the way the blades are placed on it would hurt the wielder. Maybe, you should consider moving the bottom blade; just a thought."

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:33:29

Listen dude, i dont want you to confuse me asking everyone to chill with me defending you. If you dont want your stuff to be critiqued, go to Deviantart because they have no problem being useless. Honesty isnt being rude its the most viable source or improvement.

So like i said, if you dont like what people say about your weapon designs then leave. This is a art forum not a discussion forum for your ideas. I mean you have your own website....discuss it there. Its really not that hard.

As for my own opinion, i think the design is generic, sticking blades on a hand gun might be cool but i personally feel this looks like the garbage you would see in a Budk magazine. Your drawing skills and use of other materials can also be improved. Like the background for your homepage, you really set it to tiles? That creates a massive disconnection between the people on your website and the universe they are suppose to be exploring.

Overall my complaint is how generic your work is and how green you are to using the internet and professionally discussing your material with other people.

But hey good luck with you project! =]


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:39:19

Okay guy.

We have no information of what you want for your concept. I had to find your website to actually get an idea of what's happening.

I will politely ignore the fact that your site's background is Star Wars.

Your concept is horribly bloated for how little focus there is. I went through multiple parts of the site and I still have no idea what anybody wants. There are 30 species, which is about 3 times more than any game would need, let alone one with as much progress as yours. You need to compress this a lot. Instead of trying to work in as much as possible, pick the good things and implement those. Do you really need 12 planets? How would each planet stay at its same technological level and have the same culture if players can freely visit them? Is there magic?

You need to give us a basic concept of how this universe works, not just what it is. I'm trying to go through the site to find out what I can, but it's clogged with so much content I just can't be arsed. Who are the Iron Guard? Who are the Cimmerians? Why are they fighting? Why are three factions pretty much just divisions of the Iron Guard? Why should I, as a supposed wanderer who does what they want, give half of a pidgeonshit?

My advice, drop the bullshit about 12 planets and 30 races and doing whatever you want because it's so big. You want us to design things for you, we need a focused concept. Pick a planet or set of cultures and give us a good summary of how they work and what they think, if they're low on supplies so they need to improvise or if they prefer to mass produce weapons and drown the opposition under the weight of their logistics. "They're ninjas and they're fighting spacemen" isn't good enough. Then you'll get good well thought out weapons instead of threats of drawings of dick rockets.

As for the gun? It's a sidearm, presumably meant to pull out when you lose your main weapon. Those large blades not only present risk to one's physical integrity through positioning, but they make it awkward to draw and put lots of weight on the front of the gun, making it harder to aim. It would make the tiniest lick of sense as a last resort weapon if the scrap welded to it was just pointy and you could poke things, but they're full on blades. Have you ever tried to swing a revolver like a sword? It's fucking impossible. Plus, the whole point of having a bayonet instead of a sword (hint, it's reach) is negated by the fact that it's a handgun and the blades barely go beyond the barrel, and in fact probably only get in the way of the sights.

When you think of weapons, think of practicality. Rule of Cool only goes so far before it becomes pants on head retarded.


I have nothing to say that is at all relevant.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:40:03

OK, cool, its a badly designed gun, moving one.
So. Just to set the record, you want weapons. Weapons you have designed, but that we draw. AND/OR just random weaponry we just happen to have crawl in to our little heads and back out through our hairy palms. And all with out some any mention of reward or compensation thus far. Ok I got that. Makes enough sense for now.

So, is their going to be any descriptions posted up? or do I start work on my crotch vaporizer?


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:56:55

1. The website is an OLD website, which has very little relevance to the new one. I trashed the old one pretty much because it was cluttered and I was just throwing crap in it like the Star Wars background.

2. Whoever said that they are intrested in drawing the weapons would get credit for it and I could provide a link to whatever site they may have, or wherever there art is located. I'm not going to give weapon details to someone that unintrested.

3. This is NOT for critique. I fully understand critiques and love them, when thats the point to the thread. I go to college for art and I've never been critiqued more and disected for every little thing I've done wrong. I know the flaws in the artwork, I drew it all before I even started college. The point isn't for the art to be flawless, it's so you had an idea of what was in my head... which doesn't need to be drawn to perfection.

4. I've made over $400 on that website and I had someone impressed enough by it to buy me a booth at a local convention for $400 so I could get my name spread out about it. I was also chosen as student entreprenuer of the year for my city, so I must be doing something right; so your words dont bother me, when I'm the one making money for something I love to do. Yeah, you could argue that $400 isn't much and it really isn't. But it's a heck of a lot more then you would get paid for what you love to do, which is apparently spend large sums of time on this website being rude.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 00:57:53

MASSSSIVVVVE TL;DR, so excuse me if what I say has already been settled.

gun guy, shut up. they're bringing up valid points as to why the integrity of the gun is compromised. it's very impractical, and we're helping you branch on your design. If you don't want critiques and you just want us to shower you with praise, then you shouldn't have your own thread.

Personally, I think all previous statements about the gun are right, the recoil would fucking slice you open. I also feel that such a large gun should have a larger barrel. i think it's kinda silly looking that this tiny pea shooter has Kratos blades on it.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:00:48

At 12/12/11 12:57 AM, jeeshwa123 wrote: MASSSSIVVVVE TL;DR, so excuse me if what I say has already been settled.

gun guy, shut up. they're bringing up valid points as to why the integrity of the gun is compromised. it's very impractical, and we're helping you branch on your design. If you don't want critiques and you just want us to shower you with praise, then you shouldn't have your own thread.

Personally, I think all previous statements about the gun are right, the recoil would fucking slice you open. I also feel that such a large gun should have a larger barrel. i think it's kinda silly looking that this tiny pea shooter has Kratos blades on it.

I think it's kinda silly that you fail to see that this thread has absolutly nothing to do with that gun. I ONLY posted it because I thought I had to. The old rules stated that a picture had to be submitted with a thread and I had no reason to believe, that the rules were changed in anyway.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:02:15

At 12/12/11 01:00 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote: I think it's kinda silly that you fail to see that this thread has absolutly nothing to do with that gun. I ONLY posted it because I thought I had to. The old rules stated that a picture had to be submitted with a thread and I had no reason to believe, that the rules were changed in anyway.

i think it's kinda silly that you posted something that apparently has nothing to do with the thread.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:03:21

At 12/12/11 12:56 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote: 1. The website is an OLD website, which has very little relevance to the new one. I trashed the old one pretty much because it was cluttered and I was just throwing crap in it like the Star Wars background.

Then how come you linked it today on your blog...
Oh hey, nice job on covering your ass on changing it real quick


2. Whoever said that they are intrested in drawing the weapons would get credit for it and I could provide a link to whatever site they may have, or wherever there art is located. I'm not going to give weapon details to someone that unintrested.

Nah I got nothing funny to say on this one.

3. I go to college for art and I've never been critiqued more and disected for every little thing I've done wrong.

Must not be going to a very good art college then...

4.

And half of that is bull shit


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:05:20

At 12/12/11 01:03 AM, Kinsei01 wrote: Oh hey, nice job on covering your ass on changing it real quick

I take that one back. the background didn't load for me this time.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:05:27

At 12/12/11 01:02 AM, jeeshwa123 wrote:
At 12/12/11 01:00 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote: I think it's kinda silly that you fail to see that this thread has absolutly nothing to do with that gun. I ONLY posted it because I thought I had to. The old rules stated that a picture had to be submitted with a thread and I had no reason to believe, that the rules were changed in anyway.
i think it's kinda silly that you posted something that apparently has nothing to do with the thread.

It's a thread about Otherworlds weapons. I posted a picture of one I had, what would make a better picture to post oh wise one? Because, like I said; I thought I had to post a picture to follow the rules. My bad bro, had I known I didn't have too then I wouldn't have.

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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:07:57

At 12/12/11 01:05 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote: It's a thread about Otherworlds weapons. I posted a picture of one I had, what would make a better picture to post oh wise one? Because, like I said; I thought I had to post a picture to follow the rules. My bad bro, had I known I didn't have too then I wouldn't have.

*facepalm* why are you here.
i'm not even going to waste my finger strength trying to explain why that was a really dumb paragraph. g'night.


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Response to Weapon Drawing 2011-12-12 01:12:00

At 12/12/11 12:56 AM, KidWickedx33 wrote: a bunch of shit about how successful he is.

400 dollars you say ol chap? Well im sorry sir, i didnt know you were such a high roller. You are obviously too good for us, seeing how our opinions about the shit your asking us to draw dont matter at all. So here is a website where a art student such as your self will fit in perfectly and everyone there will be happy to draw pictures for you. Oh, and make sure to explain to them how concept art doesnt need to look good or have any sensible structure to it because they might be as big of idiots as we are. =]

And if your offended im sorry. I tried being honest which you obviously dont appreciate.
Now cmon buddy! Get out of this garbage dump of shitty art and rudeness and make your way to THE LAND OF SUCCESS AND BEING RIGHT!


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