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What is your opinon on taxes? Are you proud to pay them? Or do you belive that the politicians are ripping you off? Why?

At 8/26/01 07:11 AM, Slizor wrote: What is your opinon on taxes? Are you proud to pay them? Or do you belive that the politicians are ripping you off? Why?

all i gotta say is lots of excutions

keep the chair warm for ya !BUZZ BUZZ!, Bitch im gonna let you fry

At 8/26/01 01:28 PM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: all i gotta say is lots of excutions

keep the chair warm for ya !BUZZ BUZZ!, Bitch im gonna let you fry

And that has what to do with the topic at hand?

At 8/26/01 04:06 PM, GameboyCC wrote:

At 8/26/01 01:28 PM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: all i gotta say is lots of excutions

keep the chair warm for ya !BUZZ BUZZ!, Bitch im gonna let you fry

And that has what to do with the topic at hand?

I'm not quite sure but I think the more execccutions out there, the less people we have to feed in the prisons. Thus freeing up more tax money.:)

At 8/26/01 08:53 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 8/26/01 04:06 PM, GameboyCC wrote:

At 8/26/01 01:28 PM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: all i gotta say is lots of excutions

keep the chair warm for ya !BUZZ BUZZ!, Bitch im gonna let you fry

And that has what to do with the topic at hand?

I'm not quite sure but I think the more execccutions out there, the less people we have to feed in the prisons. Thus freeing up more tax money.:)

YEAH! Human life doesn't have a price! Unless it's the american tax payers money, then it's 250 dollars a day.

if you kill more poeple the taxes will rise up :)

i bought a candy bar for 1$ dollar, with taxes its 6,928,767,984,712,960,300$ dollars

At 8/27/01 12:41 AM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: if you kill more poeple the taxes will rise up :)







i bought a candy bar for 1$ dollar, with taxes its 6,928,767,984,712,960,300$ dollars

And I'm sure you said "Oh here is that money" and just whipped out that amount. Can you even count that high?

At 8/27/01 08:26 PM, Anti-You wrote:

At 8/27/01 12:41 AM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: if you kill more poeple the taxes will rise up :)







i bought a candy bar for 1$ dollar, with taxes its 6,928,767,984,712,960,300$ dollars

And I'm sure you said "Oh here is that money" and just whipped out that amount. Can you even count that high?

To the subject at hand (please forgive my stupidity in the above post), I agree with early politicians, of whom were against taxes. Of course, I also agree with the early politicians who were opposed to the two party system. Taxes help fund the country yes, but they take out too much. If governments would learn to conserve money, and not waste it all, I think things would be much better.

how how about we stop paying taxes to make nucular bombs, we already have enough bombs to blow the world up ONE MILLION times :)

I thought the people were supposed to control the government some, but it seems we are being the ones controlled. I just don't like gas tax, if I remember its 40 cents per gallong about, thats alot, they could have just cut that in half to lower gas prices all along.

At 8/26/01 10:37 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

At 8/26/01 08:53 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 8/26/01 04:06 PM, GameboyCC wrote:

At 8/26/01 01:28 PM, FAT_MAN2k1 wrote: all i gotta say is lots of excutions

keep the chair warm for ya !BUZZ BUZZ!, Bitch im gonna let you fry

And that has what to do with the topic at hand?

I'm not quite sure but I think the more execccutions out there, the less people we have to feed in the prisons. Thus freeing up more tax money.:)

YEAH! Human life doesn't have a price! Unless it's the american tax payers money, then it's 250 dollars a day.

It depends on who's life you're talking about. I am for the death penalty only if the person deserved it. Take mcveigh, that SOB has no remorse for what he did, someone like that deserved what was coming to him. I believe if someone murders someone else whether it be for revenge, hate or just to cover something up (condit) he deserves to live out his life in prison. Then he can spend 24 hours a day seven days a week reflecting back on his crime, hopefully he will eventually feel remorse for the victim. But if that same person decides to go on a shooting spree and just recklessly kill people or kill them for "fun", that total disregard for human life in their part mandates the same thing from me. They do not deserve to live...period. Also don't bring up any shit about bombing iraq, I already made my point on that subject. But what I replied to was about what I thought fatman was trying to say. Unlike you I do not put words in people's mouth without thoroughly thinking it out first.

anhonymous: I like the way you side stepped the issue of murder in war. Killing is killing. In the case of Iraq, it had nothing to do with "right" or "wrong" but with oil and profits. Killing there was purely and simply about money. If you think you're defending democracy or some other shit, guess again. War is a business, and you're working to make some guys rich. Sucker. They want you to buy into this whole honour bullshit, and laugh at you while they sit back in the lap of luxury and you put your arse on the line. Lamb to the slaughter.

"Generals gathered in their masses,
just like witches at black masses.
Evil minds that plot destruction,
sorceror of death's construction.

In the fields the bodies burning,
as the war machine keeps turning.
Death and hatred to mankind,
poisoning their brainwashed minds."

War Pigs, Black Sabbath

That having been said, on the topic, I'm totally against taxes. The government has no right to tell me how to spend my money. That's why I'm screwing the government for every cent I can. It has screwed me, so now I'm evening up the score.

shorbe

At 8/26/01 07:11 AM, Slizor wrote: What is your opinon on taxes? Are you proud to pay them? Or do you belive that the politicians are ripping you off? Why?

i think we should get more sovereignty (spell) to where eour taxes go. thats it, just a simple short answer...

i think we should get more sovereignty (spell) to where eour taxes go. thats it, just a simple short answer...

Simple, very short question, Why?

At 8/28/01 07:33 AM, pyroarchy wrote: I thought the people were supposed to control the government some, but it seems we are being the ones controlled. I just don't like gas tax, if I remember its 40 cents per gallong about, thats alot, they could have just cut that in half to lower gas prices all along.

Where the hell do you live? That is so fucking cheap compered to here in New York!

At 8/31/01 11:38 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: I like the way you side stepped the issue of murder in war. Killing is killing. In the case of Iraq, it had nothing to do with "right" or "wrong" but with oil and profits. Killing there was purely and simply about money. If you think you're defending democracy or some other shit, guess again. War is a business, and you're working to make some guys rich. Sucker. They want you to buy into this whole honour bullshit, and laugh at you while they sit back in the lap of luxury and you put your arse on the line. Lamb to the slaughter.

In time of war, that's what I do...kill. Its kill or be killed. I'm in the business of killing...the enemy, which is like-wise for him. Yeah I don't like it but that's just the way it is. But we are in peacetime. In peacetime we try prevent war. I respect your opinion on the matter but you are only a "civilian", unpatriotic as you are, I would save your life before a "non-citizen". That's just the way ir is. Taxes is just the price we pay to live here in the U.S.

At 8/31/01 11:38 AM, shorbe wrote: anhonymous: I like the way you side stepped the issue of murder in war. Killing is killing.

In war, that's what I do...kill. Ungrateful as you are...I would put my life on the line for you in wartime. You as "civilian" would never know what it feels like to be put into combat to protect your own country. In peacetime we try to prevent war. If it means bombing iraqui radar stations so be it. But in a judicial system that is totally different. I'm not trying to sidestep anything guy! I wanted you to know the difference even though you never will.

In war, that's what I do...kill. Ungrateful as you are...I would put my life on the line for you in wartime. You as "civilian" would never know what it feels like to be put into combat to protect your own country. In peacetime we try to prevent war. If it means bombing iraqui radar stations so be it. But in a judicial system that is totally different. I'm not trying to sidestep anything guy! I wanted you to know the difference even though you never will.

I'm English, say American had a war against England, would you kill me?

At 9/1/01 06:18 AM, Slizor wrote

You're a civilian, you wouldn't be killed unless special circuimstances such as accidentally, if you were firing at american soldiers, etc.

At 9/1/01 11:15 AM, LaserBeamBandit wrote: At 9/1/01 06:18 AM, Slizor wrote

You're a civilian, you wouldn't be killed unless special circuimstances such as accidentally, if you were firing at american soldiers, etc.

Exactly. I would only have to kill the english soldiers. You I would have to take as a prisoner until the war is over. That's what the all united nations agreed on in the Geneva Convention. We don't kill unarmed people. That's human rights, but if you were to come at me with a rifle...you just enlisted yourself as the enemy, then I would have to protect myself.

At 9/1/01 02:09 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 9/1/01 11:15 AM, LaserBeamBandit wrote: At 9/1/01 06:18 AM, Slizor wrote

You're a civilian, you wouldn't be killed unless special circuimstances such as accidentally, if you were firing at american soldiers, etc.

Exactly. I would only have to kill the english soldiers. You I would have to take as a prisoner until the war is over. That's what the all united nations agreed on in the Geneva Convention. We don't kill unarmed people. That's human rights, but if you were to come at me with a rifle...you just enlisted yourself as the enemy, then I would have to protect myself.

Ohh... well that makes sense! I mean... say he worked at.. I dunno... any arbitary work place... possibly... a civilian working in a radar station, then he would be safe, Right?

Quote from anhnonymous in "We're Bombing Iraq" topic
Uhhh it was a radar station, and if there was civilians there so be it. I'm sick of arguing about this, if they don't know by now that we will keep bombing radar and military sites they deserve to be a casualty.

It times of national defense killing is self defense, in times of war fare becuase of economic policies, killing is MURDER. Panama and Granada ring a bell?

Panama and Granada ring a bell?

Hey! Those are my examples! You stealer!

At 9/1/01 03:11 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: It times of national defense killing is self defense, in times of war fare becuase of economic policies, killing is MURDER. Panama and Granada ring a bell?

Nice try there. But let me reiterate what the U.S. does in peacetime...we prevent wars. Why do you think they have radar stations in iraq fool... so they can use their anti-aircraft missiles at commercial planes. I don't think you've ever heard of the no-fly zone in iraq, otherwise you would know what those "civilians" are there for. To shoot down any planes within those boundaries...obviously. Why do you think we keep bombing those places? It's to prevent iraq from trying to shoot down any planes. In times of warfare its all out war. This is peacetime.

At 9/2/01 02:10 PM, anhnonymous wrote:

At 9/1/01 03:11 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: It times of national defense killing is self defense, in times of war fare becuase of economic policies, killing is MURDER. Panama and Granada ring a bell?

Nice try there. But let me reiterate what the U.S. does in peacetime...we prevent wars. Why do you think they have radar stations in iraq fool... so they can use their anti-aircraft missiles at commercial planes. I don't think you've ever heard of the no-fly zone in iraq, otherwise you would know what those "civilians" are there for. To shoot down any planes within those boundaries...obviously. Why do you think we keep bombing those places? It's to prevent iraq from trying to shoot down any planes. In times of warfare its all out war. This is peacetime.

So Having a radar station is an act deaming death? That's the most retarded thing I've ever heard, The problem is not with Iraq but with the policies towards it. If we we're going to succusfully contain Iraq, we should establish Z.O.C. and maintain a peace keeping force their like the U.N. Charter states, not this pussy footing around shit where we just kill a few civilians on a weekly basis so we can scare Sadam a little.

anhnonymous: If you think you're fighting for, or keeping the peace for, anything but someone's profits, guess again. The people at the top have you exactly where they want you though.

Why would I care for war or defence? Nothing's that important, and the only thing for which I would die would be my wife (if I had one) and children (if I had them).

Nationalism is just bullshit. It's a line drawn in the sand over a bit of dirt, and people get ready to kill each other for it.

shorbe

At 9/8/01 11:15 AM, shorbe wrote:

Nationalism is just bullshit. It's a line drawn in the sand over a bit of dirt, and people get ready to kill each other for it.

shorbe

Hey its a lowdown dirty job in time of war...but someone's gotta do it. You're right about the ones in the top having all the power but I have to start somewhere. Who knows...maybe in 10-15 years I might be at the top.

At 8/26/01 10:37 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: YEAH! Human life doesn't have a price! Unless it's the american tax payers money, then it's 250 dollars a day.

Each US prisoner costs on average $40,000/year. Why should we support them?

We just need to be more strict with law offenders.. like in Malasiya or something. Whip them and torture them - that's the only way they'll learn. Of course that presents another problem - we're sinking to their level. Hmm..

At 9/10/01 09:24 AM, UnclePecos wrote:

At 8/26/01 10:37 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: YEAH! Human life doesn't have a price! Unless it's the american tax payers money, then it's 250 dollars a day.

Each US prisoner costs on average $40,000/year. Why should we support them?

I've never said that the judical system was perfect, far from, I'm probably one of the biggest advocates for support, but murdering someone is never justifyable.

We just need to be more strict with law offenders.. like in Malasiya or something. Whip them and torture them - that's the only way they'll learn. Of course that presents another problem - we're sinking to their level. Hmm..

Yeah! That's right! If someone chews gum they should be kaned! Or Like in italy if someone expresses their opinons they should be beaten half to death or shot! Keep up those great reform ideas!

At 9/10/01 02:39 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote:

Yeah! That's right! If someone chews gum they should be kaned! Or Like in italy if someone expresses their opinons they should be beaten half to death or shot! Keep up those great reform ideas!

Common sense bro, common sense. Don't be so quick to judge. His last line was "we're sinking to their level. Hmmm...". He was using it as an example not as an answer.

At 9/10/01 02:39 PM, Anarchypenguin wrote: Yeah! That's right! If someone chews gum they should be kaned! Or Like in italy if someone expresses their opinons they should be beaten half to death or shot! Keep up those great reform ideas!

How many people do we have in US prisons today because they chewed gum? You're a bright one.