feminism + iraqi prisoners

[Lyddiechu]

Call me sick, call me twisted.. but some part of me really likes the female soldier who tortured the iraqi prisoners. In some odd way it feels like payback for the thousands of years women were shat upon and never got to do any shitting of their own. You know what, Pfc. Lynndie R. England? You have become my feminist hero, and I am not even goddamn feminist. I love you for dragging male combatants around on a leash and piling them up into humiliating poses. If no one else will be your friend or give you any respect, I sure as hell will. You are taking back a little of the power men have leached from women since the dawn of existence and proving that yes, women can be brutal too. I'll write you in jail, good luck.

[Slizor]

Should I love race riots? Where African-Americans get their own back for years of slavery?

[JerkClock]

Never got to see those damn pictures bitch!!!!!! Post some links

[Proteas]

At 5/7/04 02:21 PM, JerkClock wrote: Never got to see those damn pictures bitch!!!!!! Post some links

Watch the news some time, you might learn something.

[bumcheekcity]

Are you being sarcastic?

[Salato]

I really hope she is being sarcastic.

[Samuel-HALL]

At 5/7/04 01:25 PM, Lyddiechu wrote: Call me sick, call me twisted...

Man, thats really great.
I love it when minorities feel the same emotion about their 'oppressors' as their 'oppressors' feel about them.

It's very ironic and, overall, a big laugh for everyone.

[TheWakingDeath]

is being brutal a GOOD thing? i was starting to get the idea that we were working toward a peaceful and civilized global community. HAHA farce indeed!

[Lyddiechu]

At 5/7/04 03:18 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Are you being sarcastic?

I'm not being sarcastic unfortunately... which is why I said I feel a bit guilty about being not-so-secretly pleased that a female soldier was torturing male ones. I never said it was RIGHT, I just said it was satisfying.

[Ben-Fox]

So we'll round up some of said prisoners and let them sodomize you with a chemlight; you won't have a problem with that cuz it's just payback, right?

[IceWraith15]

At 5/7/04 07:46 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

At 5/7/04 03:18 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Are you being sarcastic?

I'm not being sarcastic unfortunately... which is why I said I feel a bit guilty about being not-so-secretly pleased that a female soldier was torturing male ones. I never said it was RIGHT, I just said it was satisfying.

This is why I feel little remorse for neo-feminism, women are no better than men.

[Samuel-HALL]

At 5/7/04 07:46 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

At 5/7/04 03:18 PM, bumcheekcity wrote: Are you being sarcastic?

I'm not being sarcastic unfortunately... which is why I said I feel a bit guilty about being not-so-secretly pleased that a female soldier was torturing male ones. I never said it was RIGHT, I just said it was satisfying.

It sastisfies me, as a man, when i see iraqi men torturing and raping women soldiers. No, it's not RIGHT..but i still enjoy it.

Yea, see how that sounds?

[TheWakingDeath]

At 5/7/04 01:25 PM, Lyddiechu wrote: You know what, Pfc. Lynndie R. England? You have become my feminist hero, and I am not even goddamn feminist.

you sure about that? actually, she's one of those women who get's knocked up by another soldier and hangs around collecting money.

http://story.news.yahoo.com/ne...gland&cid=519&ncid=716

"England's family said she is four months pregnant with Graner's child. Graner's attorney has said he faces a possible court-martial on criminal charges of maltreatment and indecent acts."

sorry, i really have no respect for her or the father. war is no place to be screwing around and getting knocked up.

seems to me that she's a poor representation of femminism because not only in getting herself pregnant while at war does she reinforce the conservative arguement against women having equal roles in the military, but also, by her acts of cruelty, does she show just how hypocritical feminists who say women are gentler are.

fuck the trailer park trash

[Reverend-Kyle]

At 5/7/04 01:36 PM, Slizor wrote: Should I love race riots? Where African-Americans get their own back for years of slavery?

You should, if acting in the same manner somehow elevates you above the slave masters and traders.

Honestly, this has nothing to do with feminism. Human rights abuses, yes; a step forward for women's equality, no.

[SubVision]

I was surprised to see those pics. Great stuff tho, but as far as treatment of the enemy goes, thats nothing. If she was a real hardcore feminest she would have shot them in tha dic.

[hired-goon]

At 5/8/04 02:10 AM, Izuamoto wrote: fuck the trailer park trash

I agree. This woman brings shame to the name of my country.

[RedSkunk]

Racism has been around as long as patriarchy.

It's no great feat to briefly substitute one for the other.

Actually she was just following orders....

[TheShrike]

At 5/9/04 01:20 PM, CrassClock wrote: Actually she was just following orders....

Which she strongly opposed, of course. *rolls eyes*

[IceWraith15]

At 5/9/04 01:20 PM, CrassClock wrote: Actually she was just following orders....

Prove it.

[bombkangaroo]

lynndie england could tie me up, beat me, and drag me round the floor on a leash anyday.

[aviewaskewed]

At 5/7/04 07:46 PM, Lyddiechu wrote:

I'm not being sarcastic unfortunately... which is why I said I feel a bit guilty about being not-so-secretly pleased that a female soldier was torturing male ones. I never said it was RIGHT, I just said it was satisfying.

While I have all the sympathy in the world for women (I've had two classes this semester with a focus on how women have been held down for thousands of years) and other oppressed races and cultures throughout history, I CAN NOT agree with violence, or getting "payback". I am more of the thinking Martin Luther King and Gandy held, that violence to gain justice, or equal treatment, does nothing but make you look like your oppressor, it defeats your message, it denies your cause and your plight sympathy, and attention. Violence dosen't solve anything, might dosen't make right, and I don't have respect for the soldiers who committed these crimes, and I have no respect for the government (oh yes, I believe those stories, and I believe that everyone at the executive level knew about it) who ordered them to do it. It's disgusting, and it makes me feel ashamed of my country, and I should NEVER have to feel ashamed of my country, or my way of life.

At 5/9/04 01:45 PM, IceWraith15 wrote: Prove it.

http://www.nbc5i.com/news/3285059/detail.html
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmp..._re_us/prisoner_abuse_family_7

[bumcheekcity]

At 5/9/04 02:26 PM, bombkangaroo wrote: lynndie england could tie me up, beat me, and drag me round the floor on a leash anyday.

Urgh... no. She's fugsly...

[Der-Ubermensch]

At 5/7/04 01:25 PM, Lyddiechu wrote: Call me sick, call me twisted..

Sure thing.

[Ben-Fox]

Prove it.

"10. (U) I find that contrary to the provision of AR 190-8, and the findings found in MG Ryder’s Report, Military Intelligence (MI) interrogators and Other US Government Agency’s (OGA) interrogators actively requested that MP guards set physical and mental conditions for favorable interrogation of witnesses. Contrary to the findings of MG Ryder’s Report, I find that personnel assigned to the 372ndMP Company, 800th MP Brigade were directed to change facility procedures to “set the conditions” for MI interrogations. I find no direct evidence that MP personnel actually participated in those MI interrogations. (ANNEXES 19, 21, 25, and 26)."

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