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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 5th, 2013 @ 09:15 PM Reply

At 2/5/13 05:46 PM, Ma1achi wrote:
At 2/5/13 04:37 PM, Sekhem wrote:
At 2/5/13 12:33 PM, charlie-sheening wrote:
Please stop spreading misnomers. Hollywood's doing a fine enough job without your help.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/000607.html
owned, PUNK
Not really.

- Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder more frequent in highly gifted people
- 20 or 30 studies prove link
- Studies on Swedish 16-year-olds prove intelligent teenagers more likely to develop disorders

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2154393/There -IS-link-genius-madness-claim-scientists--dont-know-evolved-
gift.html#axzz2K4F4jzse

dailymail is really credible

quit trying to pretend you'r smart or special because you have a mental illness

ACTUAL MEDICAL SITES THAT SHOW THE LINK BETWEEN LOW IQ AND SCHIZOPHRENIA

http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/6/3/161.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9403903

Analysis of the pooled results confirmed that schizophrenia patients had a significantly lower premorbid IQ compared with mentally healthy controls, at an effect size of -0.43. This equates to a mean IQ score of 93.6 among individuals who later develop schizophrenia compared with a population mean of 100.0.

http://www.medwirenews.com/47/93610/Psychiatry/IQ_link_to_sc hizophrenia_confirmed.html

you're retarded/lower than average


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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 5th, 2013 @ 09:19 PM Reply

At 2/5/13 06:31 PM, Ma1achi wrote:
At 2/5/13 06:01 PM, Xenomit wrote:
Remember that thread where I talked about how I thought I was loosing my insanity, and I ended up going to a team of specialists to figure out what's wrong?

As it turns out, I had a weird version of schizophrenia that I can't remember the name of
Yeah, sounds like you had a short episode. I knew someone that had a similar experience to yours but more extreme, like the TV was talking to him telling him how to build complex things.

Its weird how you guys had it temporarily once, but I've had it for years.

When I was really young, I used to see images on the television when it was off. Only at night though.
Much of it was quite abstract, but often, I'd see people trying to claw themselves out of the TV.


"you're a bottle of epic awesome sauce :3"
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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 5th, 2013 @ 09:23 PM Reply

At 2/5/13 09:21 PM, Ma1achi wrote: I've taken tests by professionals which would disagree with you.

lol


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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 10:54 AM Reply

At 2/5/13 09:15 PM, Sekhem wrote:
At 2/5/13 05:46 PM, Ma1achi wrote:
At 2/5/13 04:37 PM, Sekhem wrote:
At 2/5/13 12:33 PM, charlie-sheening wrote:
Please stop spreading misnomers. Hollywood's doing a fine enough job without your help.

http://www.schizophrenia.com/sznews/archives/000607.html
owned, PUNK
Not really.

- Schizophrenia and bipolar disorder more frequent in highly gifted people
- 20 or 30 studies prove link
- Studies on Swedish 16-year-olds prove intelligent teenagers more likely to develop disorders

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-2154393/There -IS-link-genius-madness-claim-scientists--dont-know-evolved-
gift.html#axzz2K4F4jzse
dailymail is really credible

quit trying to pretend you'r smart or special because you have a mental illness

ACTUAL MEDICAL SITES THAT SHOW THE LINK BETWEEN LOW IQ AND SCHIZOPHRENIA

http://apt.rcpsych.org/content/6/3/161.full
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9403903

Analysis of the pooled results confirmed that schizophrenia patients had a significantly lower premorbid IQ compared with mentally healthy controls, at an effect size of -0.43. This equates to a mean IQ score of 93.6 among individuals who later develop schizophrenia compared with a population mean of 100.0.

http://www.medwirenews.com/47/93610/Psychiatry/IQ_link_to_sc hizophrenia_confirmed.html

you're retarded/lower than average

You should probably stop pretending like you are academic. Your first two links are from before 2000, we've had 13 years of progress since then particularly related to understanding schizophrenia. Your first link cites very few 1999 references, the rest range from 1919 to ~1980s. Your second link is about a study conducted in 1983.

Also, your third link basically shows that schizo patients do not seem to lose their wits over time and that lower IQs are more susceptible to schizo. This should not infer an inverted associated between low IQs and schizo in that the more prevalent the symptoms does not suggest a lower IQ. This may be confusing to someone who just randomly searched on Google yet does not grasp how to read medical research papers.

This also does nothing to address high-functioning schizo which is scheduled to be further detailed in the new DSM coming out this year.

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 11:08 AM Reply

you're retarded/lower than average

Here is an excellent example of someone that uses their own bias to infer what they want when performing "research" from primary and secondary sources.

No link that you posted even hints that if you have schizo, you have a low IQ or are "retarded." The only theories presented by questionable (and questioned) research is that adolescents who perform poorly in school may be more susceptible to schizo. This does not automatically mean the reverse, that schizo patients must have performed poorly in school.

Congratulations! You have successfully engaged in fallacy known as:

http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/ambiguity
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/false-cause
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/composition-division
http://yourlogicalfallacyis.com/the-texas-sharpshooter

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 11:12 AM Reply

No, unlike you I'm normal :P


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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 11:49 AM Reply

At 2/5/13 09:09 PM, Swag-in-a-Bag wrote: They killed 2PAC,Biggie, and Micheal Jackson and I have Proof ! Skip to 2:45

TYSON IS NEXT, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KIk0abbYgXQ&t=2m45s

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 12:24 PM Reply

My mom is schizophrenic. It sucks a lot.

I'm not, but I'm going to school to study neuropathology.


I go to school to study how high frequency sound waves can heal, ...or KILL.

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 12:35 PM Reply

At 2/6/13 11:08 AM, charlie-sheening wrote:
you're retarded/lower than average
Here is an excellent example of someone that uses their own bias to infer what they want when performing "research" from primary and secondary sources.

Poster child for retarded/lower than average agogo


I go to school to study how high frequency sound waves can heal, ...or KILL.

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 01:39 PM Reply

One of my cousins has Schizophrenia. He's 30 or so and it was only a couple years ago he was able to walk outside on his own.

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Response to schizophrenia Feb. 6th, 2013 @ 01:47 PM Reply

At 2/6/13 11:12 AM, DevourerJay wrote: No, unlike you I'm normal :P

Completely normal? Not just a little bit strange? I mean, you're on NG, so..