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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 13:34:51 Reply

At 11/12/11 01:32 PM, jpbear wrote:
At 11/12/11 01:25 PM, zelazon wrote: Welp, this is the last time I submit ANYTHING for newgrounds competitions.
Are you implying something?

Implying something would mean that I'm not explicitly stating anything... I'm explicitly stating that I'm not submitting anything to these competitions anymore.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 13:54:20 Reply

FATKIDWITHAJETPAK. THANK. YOU. <3 I can finally put this to rest.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 14:22:07 Reply

At 11/12/11 01:34 PM, zelazon wrote: Implying something would mean that I'm not explicitly stating anything... I'm explicitly stating that I'm not submitting anything to these competitions anymore.

I don't think you should be discouraged. I wasn't picked either (in fact I've never even come close to winning any Newgrounds competitions) but I'm perfectly OK with it and whenever possible I'll still take part in competitions in the future.

It's just an opportunity to push yourself into making great new music, improving and having a bit of fun in the process :3


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 14:34:18 Reply

At 11/12/11 02:22 PM, Supersteph54 wrote:

:... I'm perfectly OK with it and whenever possible I'll still take part in competitions in the future.


It's just an opportunity to push yourself into making great new music, improving and having a bit of fun in the process :3

Kudos. <3
So, champagne for the winners, anyone? I'm afraid I'm devoid of any... :S


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 14:59:21 Reply

Wonderful work, everyone. I listened to pretty much every entry, and as a whole, the audio was all really well done. Whether you made it in or not, you all submitted some damn nice audio, and I'm happy we all got the chance to get together like this.

I'm honoured to have made the list, and cheers to everyone else that did, too. For everyone who didn't (or even if you did!), use the opportunity to connect with each other, collab, grow. It's pretty special that all of us musicians were able to come together this way - 10 years ago, something like this would be unheard of.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 15:00:12 Reply

Seriously guys, no need for bad sportsmanship here. In fact it's incredible that it was rare
to see a sog get a score lower than an 8! You should all feel proud to have made it past your WIPs! The goal here isn't to attack you and say who's better, it is to help everyone improve and showcase their work. We are all involves in this project as a community, along with every other contest on here, and I strongly reccomend NOT goving up. Along with Super up there, I have never won a forum contest. I never let that get me down though. I never received critique in the contests I entered, but I was lucky to get done great tips by reaching out to the community and now I an very proud of my ambient pieces.

Have faith on not only yourself, but in the people here. We are here to support eachother, not to fight like little school girls over eachothers cock sizes. *although mine is clearly larger than everyone's here*

Ps, I hope I didn't offend anyone in any of the poorly spelled reviews I left. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I can run you through your song.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 15:12:57 Reply

Extreeeeeeemely honoured to have made it into the CD and a huge congratulations to all of you too! I'll be eagerly awaiting the final products of the CDs and T-Shirts. :)

Thank you so much FatKidWitAJetPak... THANK YOOOOOUUUU. :D


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 15:26:12 Reply

At 11/12/11 03:00 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: Ps, I hope I didn't offend anyone in any of the poorly spelled reviews I left. If you have any questions feel free to PM me and I can run you through your song.

I feel deeply offended by your poor syntax and critique. Go rewrite that, bitch. XDDD
Oh, did you see the PM I sent you a couple of hours ago? No rush man! I can feel the pressure.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 15:31:17 Reply

Meh fatkid, you're too uncritical of music lol.

My shirt vote is kkslider btw.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 15:36:13 Reply

At 11/12/11 03:31 PM, jpbear wrote: Meh fatkid, you're too uncritical of music lol.

My shirt vote is kkslider btw.

You deserve cake. :3

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:13:26 Reply

As for the shirts, I vote KKSlider HOWEVER I think that both designs should be offered in the store because they're both awesome. Also I would buy and wear either or both gladly.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:34:56 Reply

At 11/12/11 02:22 PM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 11/12/11 01:34 PM, zelazon wrote: Implying something would mean that I'm not explicitly stating anything... I'm explicitly stating that I'm not submitting anything to these competitions anymore.
I don't think you should be discouraged. I wasn't picked either (in fact I've never even come close to winning any Newgrounds competitions) but I'm perfectly OK with it and whenever possible I'll still take part in competitions in the future.

It's just an opportunity to push yourself into making great new music, improving and having a bit of fun in the process :3

It isn't the fact that I don't believe that some of these submission aren't very good... I believe that some of the submission are very well done (I've listened to all of them)... It's just the reviews themselves don't really validate a good basis of the scores, because after looking on a few of the other threads where reviews were necessary, people couldn't go beyond their biases to submit a fully detailed reviews that actually makes sense of the score they gave.

And it's discouraging, because most of the time only perfect score will go towards those biases. I'm sorry, but a lot of people on this site DON'T know how to make a good, cohesive review, so people end up not knowing why the got the score they received. At the same time, I realize it's hard to give a full detailed review for every song that comes out (even I'm guilty of this at times), but when it comes to a competition, you have to be equally considerate of people work and put as much effort as you can into it.

And it's that reason why I'm exiting from the competition. I know for fact that my songs will always be different. Many people try to emphasize that my songs are like video game songs (which there's a certain foundation to it), but they aren't that. They're a mix of a lot of genres, and trying to get people to like my songs has always been a uphill battle for me. I know when I enter into these (or any other contest for the matter) I'll always be disadvantaged because people don't know how to go beyond the biases. And unless someone can give me good reason to understand these ideas differently, there's no point in entering anymore.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:36:13 Reply

Keep reviewing all the submitted songs. I want to see my song's review.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:38:57 Reply

Also, don't take my post for raging... This is how I understand things, and I typically like to be descriptive in my understanding of things.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:48:18 Reply

At 11/12/11 04:34 PM, zelazon wrote: Stuff.

You make some perfectly valid points, but reviews shouldn't put you down. I thought the reviews FatKid made were brief, to the point and perfectly fine, and don't forget that the reviews weren't necessary over here. The way I see it he probably only did all those reviews to give us a bit of insight and feedback.

In other competitions were reviews may be necessary, there is nearly always a variety of different judges so that the bias is reduced (even here FatKid wasn't the only one judging). And in the end, if you made a good song and you enjoy making music, then you're bound to have enjoyed contributing towards the album, whether you made it in or not.

If these competitions just aren't your thing then that's up to you, but if I were you I'd make the most out of the competitions I join whether I do well in them or I don't!


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 16:53:32 Reply

At 11/12/11 04:48 PM, Supersteph54 wrote:
At 11/12/11 04:34 PM, zelazon wrote: Stuff.
More stuff

Certainly I understand that Fatkid wasn't the only one judging, and i know you and him are quite knowledgeable when it comes to judging... but at the same time, it's because those biases DO exist that I've chosen to stop entering. It's no one's fault specifically, but I just feel that this environment isn't suited for me.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 17:09:53 Reply

wooohooo! Great job everyone, very happy with the results and the submissions that made it in. Thanks fatkid for setting this whole thing up. Really honored to be apart of music for charity :)


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 17:21:54 Reply

I'm extremely honored to have been chosen, this is the first NG competition that I've been successful enough to pass in. I'd like to say a huge thanks to all the mystery judges, protecting our city streets from vigilantes in the dead of night, and to FatKidWitAJetPak for putting so much work into this project.
Congratulations to all the winners, and to those who weren't lucky enough to make it in I would like to initiate a round of applause for all your outstanding tracks.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 17:49:21 Reply

At 11/12/11 05:21 PM, Xyresic wrote: ...and to those who weren't lucky enough to make it in I would like to initiate a round of applause for all your outstanding tracks.

*Applause*


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 18:33:50 Reply

there were to many submissions to review, that fatkid took the time to review what he did is seriously a really kind act.

Im a harsh guy on the internet so ill say this flat out: your submission clearly did not deserve to pass through.

Have a nice day.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 18:40:01 Reply

At 11/12/11 06:33 PM, jpbear wrote: Im a harsh guy on the internet so ill say this flat out: your submission clearly did not deserve to pass through.

you don't need to be a dick about it


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 18:49:44 Reply

I'm... in?

This is the first contest I've ever entered, and I'm in. I have no words for how happy I am right now. I thought for sure my submission would be lost among the flood of amazing songs. To be honest, I actually look up to many of the people that didn't make it. Everyone put their best foot forward and it showed. Soooo many good tracks.

At 11/12/11 07:24 AM, FatFaggotWitABowlCut wrote:
AetherX 10/10

Woh, you used a wobble as a.. as a... AS A BACKBEAT AND NOT A LEAD. WHO ARE YOU?!? Oh wow. This song is orgasmic! I want to blow up the room with this noise. Lordy lord son, youve got yourself a nice combination of house, dubstep, and hard style here. GOD THIS IS SO GOOD. I cant even explain to you how fucking fantastic this fucking piece of fucksauce is fucking me in the fuck hole FUCK YEA. This fills my ears with musical cum. Im melting to this smooth ass tempo.

I'm glad that I could... satisfy you? So pumped that you liked it! I can't wait for the CDs release!

I vote for Trois' design by the way. It doesn't matter too much, though, both designs are beautiful.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 18:52:10 Reply

At 11/12/11 06:40 PM, SpaceWhale wrote:
At 11/12/11 06:33 PM, jpbear wrote: Im a harsh guy on the internet so ill say this flat out: your submission clearly did not deserve to pass through.
you don't need to be a dick about it

its a pretty concrete and neutral statement, and its the reason his track didnt pass. Not genre bias on the judge's part.

Not too complicated of an issue.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 20:15:26 Reply

Wait........ Hah I just noticed that I got reviewed twice. Does that mean I actually got a 16?


Listen to my (shitty) original music! (Only if you want to.)

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 20:41:21 Reply

I agree 100% on Oozles piece... it represents the Orchestral-Classical section quite well... the only thing I'd like to see is have it mastered with some really good VSTs for the CD (or performed and recorded outright, it's that good). The other classical pieces I listened (including mine) to were awesome as well, but didn't have that clean-cut polish that traditional orchestral music has... which was captured by that piece.

I'll have to look into bringing out the drums more in my pieces in the future, thanks for the good review FKWAJP! When will the judges' reviews be sent out? I love this chance for constructive critique, especially since you gave us all a chance for us to make a song that symbolizes our style and skill.


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 21:42:28 Reply

Those biases DO exist that I've chosen to stop entering. It's no one's fault specifically, but I just feel that this environment isn't suited for me.

There are many contests here where, as you have said, Biases do exist... but that's because many of the contests on here are generated by its users on a volunteer basis. We aren't trained professionals or anything. There are going to be biases every now and then, but currently I think you are over exaggerating by saying you shouldn't enter because of these occasional bias decisions. When I judge here on NG, I try to get judges that are NOT bias at all. In fact, this is one of my main focuses because I noticed a large amount of biast BS in the main NG contests where Mindchamber basically choose all dub step tracks for the winners of the Robot Day and Madness Day contest. I make it a very large goal of mine to get rid of all the bias in the results.

I assure you me, and the other judges, were not bias at all. I choose judges that have a very large taste on the musical spectrum. I thoroughly enjoy music, and every bit of what music is. I didn't vote down on your song because it sounded like video game music. In fact I quite enjoy video game music. Some of my favorite songs are all 8-bit classics from games such as Final Fantasy and Chronos Trigger. I voted down on your song because I think there was large room left for improvement. Instead of blaming the judges for you not getting in, why not do your best to improve on your submission? The song can be interrupted as whatever genre you classify it as, but it can also be interrupted as whatever genre the listener classifies it as. Don't feel attacked by the system here.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 21:44:01 Reply

At 11/12/11 04:36 PM, J-Rex wrote: Keep reviewing all the submitted songs. I want to see my song's review.

I reviewed all the final entries, what username did you post your song under? I don't see your username in the thread.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 21:55:32 Reply

At 11/12/11 09:44 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote:
At 11/12/11 04:36 PM, J-Rex wrote: Keep reviewing all the submitted songs. I want to see my song's review.
I reviewed all the final entries, what username did you post your song under? I don't see your username in the thread.

Were you only posting the reviews of the songs that are on the CD?


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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 23:33:58 Reply

No I reviewed all of the entries, so yours should be there :)

I did not review the WIPS though.

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Response to Ng Cd 2011 Project Results! 2011-11-12 23:50:13 Reply

At 11/12/11 11:33 PM, FatKidWitAJetPak wrote: No I reviewed all of the entries, so yours should be there :)

I did not review the WIPS though.

I got the link to the site and remember uploading something to it.


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