So today on the morning news my dad was at the home and there was a little segment about George W. Bush and a picture of him younger was displayed on the screen. However there were signal problems and the sound was cut off and the screen froze, and everything messed up. But my dad got my attention for that aspect, but then I asked him, "wow! Who was that handsome young man?" My dad responded with, "well... it's Bush!" and then I'm like, "wow." He then pointed out it was him 50 years ago, even though Bush is in his mid-60s. However, he looked about in his 20s in that picture, and it was obvious my father was fooling around, as he later pointed out that he was. In that black-and-white photo of the ex-president, it showed him holding two babies while showing a nice grimace, and it was quite cute to say the least. But then I asked my dad, "so did you like Bush?" and he was responded with a simple, short, and blunt "No." Then I asked him, do even the Republicans in Texas, like or had a past favor for George W. Bush, Jr. He then replied with that "I don't think anybody liked the guy." My dad said that he basically embarrassed the whole state of Texas, which is where Bush primarily hailed from, despite Connecticut being his birthplace.
So my simple query is, do you think George Walker Bush, Jr., the former President of the United States of America who served eight years after Bill Clinton and prior to Barack Hussein Obama, II, the current President of the United States, made the state of Texas proud, or embarrassed the state and brought massive shame to it? And what about the whole United States of America; did Bush soil the name of America during his eight-year term, which some say was too extended for such a lousy president (in their humble opinions).
From where I was looking, he was an embarrassment to the whole of America.
So yes, I suppose.
I dunno our economy blew the fuck up with ol Georgie in office.
He kinda fucked over the rest of the country though.
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Most rational people wont judge manmade distinctions of terrain by a single person, whether or not they were highly influential or dumber than a sack of dead babies.
That being said, no, he didnt embarass Texas. Maybe to people who havent experienced being a part of the culture there, but not to those of us who live/lived there.
Most of the big cities in Texas are left-leaning, so you could say he embarrassed the big cities. Most of the rural areas are backwards as shit, though. He obviously didn't embarrass those people.
Bush was and is an embarrassment to everyone.
Texas believes they're the best state in America and that they're never wrong. If anything George Bush was a great addition to them.
It's not like he was the worst person in politics. I'm sure Janis Joplin being from Texas can make up for what he did haha. I like to keep the same mind frame about politics I had when I was a 4 year old "Who the hell is that old white guy on TV and why am I watching this? Where's my South Park?"
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At 11/7/11 03:07 PM, psychicpebble wrote: However as far as idiocy goes, Bush did a great job. Possibly one of the ditsiest presidents we've had in office, or at least that I'm aware of. I'm sure his intentions were good, he was just stupid.
Exactly.
He was an embarassment to all of the U.S., and to the planet Earth itself.
I think Hank Hill knows best when it comes to matters of Texas.
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No, he was elected president, twice
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Bush has contributed a lot more than any of you seem to know.
Despite what the media has force fed you about him Bush is not an embarrassment what is embarrassing is that you people are all so dim as to blindly hurl insults at a man who does a lot of good work.
At 11/7/11 09:13 PM, ZambooziThaBluntd wrote: Despite what the media has force fed you about him Bush is not an embarrassment what is embarrassing is that you people are all so dim as to blindly hurl insults at a man who does a lot of good work.
Dat librul lamestream media!
Bush had the misfortune of being president during a ticking time bomb that's been ticking for the past 15 years that was the housing crisis any legislation would've just delayed the inevitable and he was taking over during the start of a recession which was prolonged by 9-11. Could he have done better, yes. but that aside i think he would've been better than either gore(would've went all environazi on us) or kerry(was pretty much the democrat version of bush). I think as many people in Texas support him now as there was when he took the presidency.
I'd kinda have to say that yeah, he did embarass Texas pretty badly, along with the 49 surrounding states to boot.
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Meh,maybe but he does make me laugh. :)
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Jumping into Bush bashing bandwagon again? I'm not a fan of Bush but I remembering finding myself defending him several times because some of the posts attacking him devoid of facts and are plain ridiculous.
I got called "Bush lover" because of that.
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At 11/7/11 02:43 PM, Bolo wrote: Most of the big cities in Texas are left-leaning, so you could say he embarrassed the big cities. Most of the rural areas are backwards as shit, though. He obviously didn't embarrass those people.
If by cities you mean Austin, then yes, you are right. Yes, the minority districts in the larger cities tend to be Democratic (because they are poor and it's in their self-interest), but the cities themselves are Republican by-and-large, with the exception of Austin (and a few majority-minority outcroppings along the Rio Grande).
http://www.texastribune.org/library/data /texas-house-redistricting-before-after/
Cool visualization here.
I lived in Plano, and near Amarillo, for the majority of my life and the only people I've ever known who self-identify as Democrats are Mexican-Americans (and a few public school teachers, but what do you expect).
At 11/7/11 09:57 PM, GhostOfHalloween wrote: I lived in Plano, and near Amarillo, for the majority of my life and the only people I've ever known who self-identify as Democrats are Mexican-Americans (and a few public school teachers, but what do you expect).
Isn't Plano that one city where there's a lot of companies headquartered there, many of them high-tech? If so, wouldn't there be a lot of Indians/Asians? Usually they identify as Democrats. My mom's a Chinese immigrant for one, she has liberal views on stuff I suppose. Also, of course almost all Mexican-Americans are Democratic, the thought of a Republican one is mind boggling to me. A second generation one, maybe.
George Bush was an embarrassment to America. In Texas, he's just an average guy. (did i piss any texans off yet?)
George Bush was an embarrassment to America. In Texas, he's just an average guy. (did i piss any texans off yet?)
Bush and his acts were an embarrassment to the entire nation and the things that America was founded on. Hell, I haven't seen a politician be hated on so hard by his own people the entire time I've been alive.
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At 11/7/11 09:57 PM, GhostOfHalloween wrote: If by cities you mean Austin, then yes, you are right. Yes, the minority districts in the larger cities tend to be Democratic (because they are poor and it's in their self-interest), but the cities themselves are Republican by-and-large, with the exception of Austin (and a few majority-minority outcroppings along the Rio Grande).
No, I mean all the big cities. Houston, San Antonio, Dallas, Austin. They're all left-leaning. 2008 presidential election, which has the largest voter participation of any election, had them all going to Obama. It's a misconception that Texas is all conservative. Rural Texas is overwhelmingly conservative, but it is counterbalanced by strong liberal strongholds in the cities.
I lived in Plano, and near Amarillo, for the majority of my life and the only people I've ever known who self-identify as Democrats are Mexican-Americans (and a few public school teachers, but what do you expect).
The reason you never heard anyone self-identify as a democrat is because you lived in white bread Plano. First of all, it's not even a large city, and second it's a demographic aberration.
you know to be honest, i think Bush is better than most of the people running for the GOP nomination for President. and I'm not even a Bush fan, i never thought he was a good president.
i mean, Michelle Bachmann was at one time a frontrunner for nomination! the fact that some people actually consider her (and most of the other prospective GOP nominees) a serious candidate makes me facepalm hard.
Probably not. There's no reason for a state to be embarrassed that one of its former governors who subsequently got elected president did a bad job in the eyes of many of the nation's people.
That's like saying that Illinois might be embarrassed that one of its former senators(Barack Obama) who subsequently got elected president....it really doesn't make much sense.
There's really no need for the electorate of any nation to be embarrassed that one of its former leaders did a seemingly bad job while in power. That's one of the things about democracy: people are often deceived by candidates and end up voting for people whose views don't truly conform to that of many of the people who voted for them.
It's alright for Texas, really. And besides, I've heard that Bush did a pretty good job as governor of Texas before running for the presidency more than a decade ago. I could be wrong, though.
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At 11/7/11 11:10 PM, Bolo wrote:I lived in Plano, and near Amarillo, for the majority of my life and the only people I've ever known who self-identify as Democrats are Mexican-Americans (and a few public school teachers, but what do you expect).The reason you never heard anyone self-identify as a democrat is because you lived in white bread Plano. First of all, it's not even a large city, and second it's a demographic aberration.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plano,_Texa s#Demographics <--More recent.
Plus, it's not white at all. 18% Asian, that's a LOT of Asians. There's a lot there due to the high tech industry of the city. Asians are usually Democratic people. Also 8% blacks is quite plenty, or at least to me it is. And they're, of course, Democrats most of the time.
Plano has 260,000 people and it's almost 4,000 people per square mile. It's not like NYC, SF or LA, but that's quite a decent sized city.
At 11/7/11 02:16 PM, EddyFromEEnE wrote: So my simple query is, do you think George Walker Bush, Jr., the former President of the United States of America who served eight years after Bill Clinton and prior to Barack Hussein Obama, II, the current President of the United States, made the state of Texas proud, or embarrassed the state and brought massive shame to it?
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At 11/7/11 09:13 PM, ZambooziThaBluntd wrote: No, he was elected president, twice
That a fact? I seem to recall the votes for Florida in the 2000 election never being verified, despite it being too close to declare a winner. The recount was shut down by the supreme court as a result of Bush suing Gore.
That said, I don't know if he is an embarrassment to Texas or the US in general. His policies, IMO, were bad for the country and his politics embittered the political landscape bringing us to where we are, politically, today. He basically discredited the entire neo-conservative movement by entering Iraq. But a man is just a man, it is the people who are ultimately responsible for the way politics are conducted in this country.
At 11/7/11 11:35 PM, EddyFromEEnE wrote: Plus, it's not white at all. 18% Asian, that's a LOT of Asians. There's a lot there due to the high tech industry of the city. Asians are usually Democratic people. Also 8% blacks is quite plenty, or at least to me it is. And they're, of course, Democrats most of the time.
The demographics I linked were more representative of the past, which is when the poster I was responding to actually lived in Plano. 60-75% of the city was homogeneously white when that guy lived there, and white, relatively small cities in Texas are conservative. We have established this fact. Your Asian non-sequitur notwithstanding.
Plano has 260,000 people and it's almost 4,000 people per square mile. It's not like NYC, SF or LA, but that's quite a decent sized city.
Not in Texas. It is significantly less than half the size of Austin. Significantly less than half the size of Fort Worth. It's about a a quarter the size of Dallas. Significantly less than a quarter the size of San Antonio. and about 12% the size of just the city part of Houston, not counting the metro area. It's not a "decent sized city" and is not representative of large Texas cities as a whole because it is not one of them.
At 11/7/11 11:53 PM, Bolo wrote: It's not a "decent sized city" and is not representative of large Texas cities as a whole because it is not one of them.
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