How do you get flash?

[maxninja234]

I really want to make flash. Thats the only reason I made an acount or I'd just lurk. I know it costs money but how much? Also, can I have some sort of teacher cuz it sounds pretty hard from what I've heard.

[Atlas]

It costs around 699 USD. You can get a 30 day trial for free though.

[Splyth]

It's like anyting else. You have to put in the time and effort. There's no getting around it

[MintPaw]

Depends on what you want to do, you can make games freely, but it will take a lot of dedication. Like, you'll literally have to learn professional level programming from scratch. It's not extremely hard, I did it when I was about 15yo. But it does take a lot of time and dedication.

[w7y7a7t7t]

like the other guy said its $699, and as for a teacher, there are many tutorials on the internet. making an animation is easier then making a game, well easier in the sense theres less learning. but learning AS3 isn't to difficult if you have time haha

[DragonoxForce]

i bought CS5.5 Production Premium for just over $900 and got everything and anything i could possible need i guess. Flash CS5.5 / Audition ( for sound editing ) / After Effects / illustrator / Photoshop

i saved a ton of cash thanks to that deal they have right now and i think it was well worth it.

[Nae]

Just a friendly reminder: Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking.

If you're a student, you can get it for $179.00!

[Razz]

I'd suggest buying used through ebay, that's how I initially got Flash. The older versions work perfectly find depending on what you want to do. This was made with the tools available in 2001, personally I wouldn't suggest anything prior to Flash MX 2004 though. And anyone who says you have to use 8 or up is full of shit, 8 and MX have practically identical tools aside from filters. And they both use AS2

At 10/24/11 05:15 PM, Nae wrote: Just a friendly reminder: Discussing illegal activities - including, but not limited to: ROMs, cracks, warez and hacking.

Thanks for stating the obvious, captain.

[VigilanteNighthawk]

If you want to make video games, you can can use the flex sdk with a variety of programs for free. If you want to make cartoons, there are plenty of animation programs that are cheaper and export to swf. Also, with CS 5.5 on up, you can for it as a monthly subscription.

[Kiigen]

Macromedia Flash 8 can still make cartoons, and you can find it for around $50-$100 if memory serves correctly.

[XDrako]

At 10/22/11 12:21 AM, MintPaw wrote: Depends on what you want to do, you can make games freely, but it will take a lot of dedication. Like, you'll literally have to learn professional level programming from scratch. It's not extremely hard, I did it when I was about 15yo. But it does take a lot of time and dedication.

Sorry Mate, that's nothing close to 'Professional'. Actionscript is reminiscent of Java or Python, which are high level languages with slow compilers. Although it functions like a scripting language, not a programming language.

Professionals use C++/C# as a primary because of their functionality.

Your best bet for starting with games programming is in Python (it's almost speaking English & a little bit of syntax). But ActionScript will get you those views on NG.

[Sandremss128]

At 10/30/11 05:02 PM, XDrako wrote: Sorry Mate, that's nothing close to 'Professional'.

Professional means that you can make money out of it. In flash (and thus the language actionscript) there is allot of money involved. Sure the big 3d shooters and MMO's are not build with actionscript but that doesn't make it a lesser 'professional' language.

Actionscript is reminiscent of Java or Python, which are high level languages with slow compilers.

C++ is also a high level language, not as high as actionscript but its still in that category.
And since when does a game need to get 100 % performance out of a computer to be a good game?
Idem for the language right?

Although it functions like a scripting language, not a programming language.

It functions like a scripting language?
Would you please tell me the huge difference between a scripting language and a programming language except from 'scripting is programming within a program'?
The line between scripting and programming is very blurry today and even with actionscript 3.0 which allows allot of high level stuff and data types you cant really distinct much.

Professionals use C++/C# as a primary because of their functionality.

Of course. The other 100 programming languages were just made for fun by clowns.
Sure those languages are one of the most used out there but not even close to 40%. There are allot of different languages and they are chosen based on a project.

Your best bet for starting with games programming is in Python (it's almost speaking English & a little bit of syntax). But ActionScript will get you those views on NG.

All the principles for game design and problem solving that are in actionscript also apply to Python. You seem to have a blurry look on what real 'game programming' is.

I tell you that my first really serious language was actionscript. I've learned Java in my study and most of the things are just the same! Java is just a little more strict.
Actionscript is a great way to begin to learn code and just because its origin is a 'scripting language' doesnt mean its crappy and it sucks. Its about the way you programme and structure your code.

[Wolfos]

Wow... C++ barely even has any programmers using it. Educate yourself, man!
The market for Actionscript programmers is MUCH larger than for C++ programmers.

[VigilanteNighthawk]

At 10/30/11 05:02 PM, XDrako wrote:

At 10/22/11 12:21 AM, MintPaw wrote:

Sorry Mate, that's nothing close to 'Professional'. Actionscript is reminiscent of Java or Python, which are high level languages with slow compilers. Although it functions like a scripting language, not a programming language.

1) I don't think you are really understand what you are talking about. Python usually isn't compiled. It's interpreted into bytecode directly from source by the runtime. At any rate, I think you are talking about the runtime/virtual machine. The VM for Java is actually fairly fast, running about half the speed of native C++ on average. AVM2 is roughly have the speed of Java. Do the math.

2) "Professional Programming" is much more deeply involved than working with native code. It's about learning how to write code that is loosely coupled, simply to test, and easy to reuse and alter.

3) Much of modern banking infrastructure is written in Java. Many client side applications are written in Actionscript. People pay money for these. That makes them languages used by professionals.

Professionals use C++/C# as a primary because of their functionality.

1) Further evidence that you don't know what you are talking about. C# is perhaps slightly lower level than Java in that it gives you access to pointers. However, it compiles to bytecode just like Java, and just like Java, it runs in a virtual machine, usually the .Net runtime. The other reason it would run faster and have "more functionality" is that it is much more deeply integrated into the OS (specifically Windows/Xbox 360) than Java. Most functions are able to make calls directly into OS functions like for windowing, whereas java tends to utilize it's own implementations where possible.

2) Yes, these are often used for console games, but the console is not the only target. Also, speed is not the only concern here. Time to develop is an issue, and when you are working by yourself, higher level languages that decrease development time are often worth the performance hit. You rarely need the speed of C++ for a 2d game.

Your best bet for starting with games programming is in Python (it's almost speaking English & a little bit of syntax). But ActionScript will get you those views on NG.

Yes, python has advantages over actionscript, BUT the ability to deploy and distribute is not among them, especially if you want to make money. You'll largely be limited to donations if you write a game in python, and perhaps beyond some obscure plugin someone developed for fun or a cross compiler, there is no way that I'm aware of deploy python in the browser.

[Nae]

If you guys want to continue the current 'discussion' please do so in a new thread...

At 10/24/11 07:37 PM, JoeMation wrote: Thanks for stating the obvious, captain.

...because as obvious as some thing may be, there are still idiots that don't get it... and I'm tired of deleting their posts! :P

As for the OP, I think your question has been answered. If not, check Animation101.