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Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:39 PM Reply

So ive been working on this mix and I found this cool Pendulum styled bass, my only problem is the fact that every second note have this sudden sub boost that just annoys the hell out of me, im using massive with nothing special outside the fact that i set unison to 3, ive played around with it and while it does dampen the problem, it wont remove it completely.

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:42 PM Reply

dunno since you didn't post the settings but have you heard of this thing called an equalizer

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:44 PM Reply

As much of a dick response as that is, he has a point.

Equalizer bro, read and learn how to use it


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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:48 PM Reply

Try multiband processing it (Just split the sound into a low freq. and high freq. channels), then compress the shit out of the low freq. channel.

Or if there's a way to turn off phase variation for the oscillators in Massive, since I would think that's what's causing it (Toxic Biohazard has this option).

Idk, those are just 2 guesses/suggestions, there might be a better way to do it. (Like SBB said, EQ the bass out completely, and use a separate Sub Bass patch to get the bassiness of it.)

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:48 PM Reply

Idk maybe you have a touch of detuning?

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:49 PM Reply

At 10/19/11 02:42 PM, SBB wrote: dunno since you didn't post the settings but have you heard of this thing called an equalizer

The boost happens every other note so i dont see how an eq would help, as for the settings:

As I said, theres really nothing special about it, just a filtered bass.
Ive EQd it so it would fit the song, including the removal of all the nasty lower freq (as ya do), i havent compressed it though (yet).

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:53 PM Reply

Ok, I went back to the drawing board and removing the unison seemed to help, Thanks for the replies, now for the sub :)


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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:54 PM Reply

At 10/19/11 02:49 PM, Usernamemyarse wrote:
At 10/19/11 02:42 PM, SBB wrote: dunno since you didn't post the settings but have you heard of this thing called an equalizer
The boost happens every other note so i dont see how an eq would help

I don't understand how you're thinking- why does it matter how often the bass boost happens? Cut the low end and the bass boost won't happen, ever.

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 02:57 PM Reply

add highpass filter and then create new normal sub bass


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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 19th, 2011 @ 07:00 PM Reply

Learn how to use Massive. It's a very powerful VST but simply tinkering with presets leaves you pretty in the dark as to what's going on to cause these issues. More often than not, the problem exists at the source.

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 20th, 2011 @ 01:16 AM Reply

I get problems like this all the god damn time using Massive. Crap like my patches changing their sound slightly every 2 bars, patches sounding completely different everytime I open certain projects, random volume changes and sub problems like you've got. I've gone through all the settings, routing, voicing, you name it. The only thing I've found is that it's most likely to do with the oscillators. Certain ones like Maygr have a tendency to be dicks and do random, annoying shit to piss you off.

If one of your basses is giving you trouble, I suggest you bounce it down to WAV. so there can't be any fluctuations in it's sound. Saves on CPU as well.

If anyone knows what's really causing this problem, please elaborate. I'd love to know how to stop this shit. Really, please tell me.

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 20th, 2011 @ 01:49 PM Reply

At 10/20/11 01:16 AM, Nechura wrote: Crap like my patches changing their sound slightly every 2 bars

Now that fucking PISSED me off in my newest track...I had to fucking bounce to audio first to get a consistent sound, and now I'm thinking I want chord changes in there, which means I need to bounce each freaking chord to more audio...grrrrrr

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 21st, 2011 @ 02:18 AM Reply

At 10/19/11 02:53 PM, Usernamemyarse wrote: Ok, I went back to the drawing board and removing the unison seemed to help, Thanks for the replies, now for the sub :)

Make sure the oscillators aren't set to "Free" mode.

I had the same problem using sylenth1 and toxic biohazard when synthesizing bass with unison.

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 21st, 2011 @ 05:18 AM Reply

When you have any sort of chorus effect and a filter with resonance this kind of problem can arise. Turn the resononace on the filters down or off, or put some sort of compressor on the low-end frequencies.


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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Oct. 21st, 2011 @ 05:21 AM Reply

At 10/21/11 02:18 AM, DDman465 wrote:
At 10/19/11 02:53 PM, Usernamemyarse wrote: Ok, I went back to the drawing board and removing the unison seemed to help, Thanks for the replies, now for the sub :)
Make sure the oscillators aren't set to "Free" mode.

How does one change an oscillator from free mode?

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Feb. 3rd, 2013 @ 06:12 PM Reply

Hey I know this is over a year later but I've found the real solution to your phasing problem for anyone's future reference. Click on the OSC tab located in the middle of Massive. Then just click the box next to Restart Via Gate under Oscillator Phases. Problem solved!

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Response to Massive Bass Problem. Feb. 3rd, 2013 @ 06:45 PM Reply

At 2/3/13 06:12 PM, PattyFritters wrote: Hey I know this is over a year later but I've found the real solution to your phasing problem for anyone's future reference. Click on the OSC tab located in the middle of Massive. Then just click the box next to Restart Via Gate under Oscillator Phases. Problem solved!

Beat me to it. The Restart Via Gate makes sure every note is the same.


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