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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 12:24:07 Reply

At 10/13/11 08:38 AM, WadeFulp wrote: Is this some kind of response for CA banning the open carry of guns? Shame the people in the salon weren't all carrying pistols so they could defend themselves.

Wonder how many salon shootings happened in texas this year...

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 12:55:09 Reply

At 10/13/11 01:22 AM, Sanch wrote: I'm actually flabbergasted when people see this shit and say that fighting Al Qaeda / Muslimes isn't worth it. This has happened (9/11) and will keep happening as long as there are people Not Like Us.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 13:25:26 Reply

They just couldn't take the heat.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 15:38:47 Reply

At 10/13/11 10:02 AM, akmeteor wrote: Which probably wouldn't have happened if open carry were still allowed. I'm saying that a majority of crimes are caused by illegal immigrants and the poor.
Also, white =/= legal immigrant or citizen.

Here's what you said before:

Hi, I live in the U.S.A. We have a large amount of illegal immigration from about 3-4 different countries. So their offspring and sometimes them are often the attackers in these crimes. Well outside of the projects.

So, it's pretty clear that by illegal immigration you were referring to either Mexico or some other poor nation whose people have a pretty strong incentive to immigrate to America. Second and third world countries with strong incentives to immigrate to America in the 21st century are pretty exclusively nonwhite.Further this article does not suggest, nor has anybody suggested, that the shooter in this case was an immigrant. You brought that non-sequitur up totally independent of any statement of fact.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:04:17 Reply

In local news critics today bash an infamous thread maker for being a huge retard. Stay tuned for more at 8.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:22:08 Reply

At 10/13/11 03:38 PM, LardLord wrote:
So, it's pretty clear that by illegal immigration you were referring to either Mexico or some other poor nation whose people have a pretty strong incentive to immigrate to America. Second and third world countries with strong incentives to immigrate to America in the 21st century are pretty exclusively nonwhite.Further this article does not suggest, nor has anybody suggested, that the shooter in this case was an immigrant. You brought that non-sequitur up totally independent of any statement of fact.

Did I ever mention that I thought that this incident is the only reasons guns should be allowed?

Hell, I didn't even read the article because I originally came in this thread to watch everyone yell at Ed. Then Wade brought something up and I replied. Someone replied. I replied. Etc. I was also saying that 3-4 countries are the majority of where they come from, America actually gets a quite a few illegals from eastern Europe.

I was merely stating that it probably wouldn't have happened if open carry were still legal. He might have gotten one shot out before he himself were gunned down.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:28:26 Reply

8 people?

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:42:24 Reply

Anyone else notice how Edd is no longer posting on his thread?

Probably off making another Cali thread.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:48:25 Reply

At 10/13/11 05:22 PM, akmeteor wrote: Did I ever mention that I thought that this incident is the only reasons guns should be allowed? Hell, I didn't even read the article because I originally came in this thread to watch everyone yell at Ed. Then Wade brought something up and I replied. Someone replied. I replied. Etc. I was also saying that 3-4 countries are the majority of where they come from, America actually gets a quite a few illegals from eastern Europe. I was merely stating that it probably wouldn't have happened if open carry were still legal. He might have gotten one shot out before he himself were gunned down.

That's a silly revenge fantasy. This is not an illegal alien coming into the salon and shooting people, it's an American citizen. Also per capita gun crime rates in places like england where gun ownership is illegal are astronomically lower than US gun crime rate per capita.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:53:32 Reply

At 10/13/11 05:48 PM, LardLord wrote:
That's a silly revenge fantasy. This is not an illegal alien coming into the salon and shooting people, it's an American citizen. Also per capita gun crime rates in places like england where gun ownership is illegal are astronomically lower than US gun crime rate per capita.

Yet they have over 300% more violent crimes....

Something about your theory is wrong, and I just can't put my finger on it....


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:58:56 Reply

At 10/13/11 01:17 AM, EddyFromEEnE wrote: Seal Beach, an affluent Orange County city of 25,000 people known for being the home of a Naval base

Well I guess I have to feel sorry for these rich white people, because they're rich white people.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 17:59:07 Reply

Lots of edgy "So? Big deal" apathy in here, I don't know if I can take the coolness of it all.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 18:05:02 Reply

At 10/13/11 05:59 PM, MultiCanimefan wrote: Lots of edgy "So? Big deal" apathy in here, I don't know if I can take the coolness of it all.

In my own petty defense, I'm just disgusted that this is considered an issue because it's apparently noteworthy that this happened in an affluent area where this is considered uncommon. People practically have the same access to firearms anywhere in America, and crazy people who would be deranged enough to resort to violence to any petty issue can live anywhere.

If this was truly an issue, then I'd expect to see any story of a person being senselessly killed by another person being discussed on this forum.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 18:05:56 Reply

At 10/13/11 05:53 PM, akmeteor wrote: Yet they have over 300% more violent crimes....
Something about your theory is wrong, and I just can't put my finger on it....

Hmm

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 18:08:32 Reply

At 10/13/11 09:46 AM, Jedi-Master wrote: Paranoid and dangerous? How? Legally authorized gun owners rarely commit violent crimes with their weapons, and burglary/armed robbery is very common. Why not be legally able to carry a gun on your person if you're known not to be a danger to society?

True, if you get your gun legally you're not really a crazed gunman.
Only people who obtain firearms illegally are the ones who tend to kill or threaten people.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 18:12:09 Reply

At 10/13/11 09:42 AM, CaveStoryGrounds wrote:
An armed society is a paranoid and dangerous society.

Actually, you've probably met a lot more strangers on the street that had concealed, loaded handguns on them, with one in the chamber ready to go than you'd ever like to admit and never even knew it.

They're pretty easy to spot, to be honest, as they'll be considerably more likely to be polite for no reason and generally go out of their way to avoid any kind of conflict.

The typical California knee jerk reaction on banning unloaded open carry is actually a win given that it pretty much shoehorns "shall issue" CCW to every county in the state.

How the hell have you assholes been, anyway? It's been god knows how long since my last post.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 19:14:38 Reply

Travis, I respect you as a user, but you are being an ass. He doesnt do it on purpose. He's more attracted to stuff that happens in his local area and race.
Its cool, brah.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:00:50 Reply

At 10/13/11 06:05 PM, LardLord wrote:
At 10/13/11 05:53 PM, akmeteor wrote: Yet they have over 300% more violent crimes....
Something about your theory is wrong, and I just can't put my finger on it....
Hmm

That is GUN violence. Not violence in GENERAL!

I'm convinced you're just a troll now anyway. After that at least.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:02:08 Reply

At 10/13/11 01:17 AM, EddyFromEEnE wrote:
This incident has really shaken up the SoCal community.

Hey there, another SoCal user here chiming in to say that I don't really give a shit at all and neither does anyone else.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:06:28 Reply

what happened to the good old days when the spree killers wasted cops' hours darting room to room to avoid snipers until they went into police custody for a soda and a soft drink

i mean really if they're going to be assholes they might as well be REAL BIG assholes


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:21:07 Reply

errbody read this prease.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:38:07 Reply

At 10/13/11 10:21 PM, Molotov wrote: errbody read this prease.

I like this man.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:41:18 Reply

I live very close to where this occurred... Very odd, considering this is technically the biggest massacre in Southern California ever.

My friends mom was working when he came in to the salon and shot up the place.

Fortunately, she wasn't shot and wasn't injured.

Here's the facebook posts he made about the incident.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:47:00 Reply

Also, fuck off Travis, you're making a bigger ass out of yourself than when Eddy makes posts about California.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:47:42 Reply

Why do you have to say "SoCal"?


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:50:21 Reply

At 10/13/11 06:12 PM, cheshirepus wrote: They're pretty easy to spot, to be honest, as they'll be considerably more likely to be polite for no reason and generally go out of their way to avoid any kind of conflict.

You just described the majority of Canadians. We actually are commonly nice, or less rude then people of other countries. We tend to hold open the door for others and we talk things out. If we have a problem with something you just did, when we walk away we'll mumble about it and quickly forget dependent on its importance or the effectiveness of the issue.

Ultimately, like I said. An armed society is a paranoid society. More guns does not equal increased protection, it just means more guns and a larger opportunity that more people will get harmed or killed including bystanders. If people were just more educated, hand less time on their hands to contemplate doing stupid shit, and were just more positive and content...then you would have a more secure society.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 22:52:23 Reply

At 10/13/11 10:41 PM, Kevin wrote: I live very close to where this occurred... Very odd, considering this is technically the biggest massacre in Southern California ever.

No, in the early 80's, a man walked into a McDonald's in San Diego and killed more than 20 people and injured a ton of others. He was then shot to death.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 23:00:52 Reply

At 10/13/11 10:52 PM, EddyFromEEnE wrote:
At 10/13/11 10:41 PM, Kevin wrote: I live very close to where this occurred... Very odd, considering this is technically the biggest massacre in Southern California ever.
No, in the early 80's, a man walked into a McDonald's in San Diego and killed more than 20 people and injured a ton of others. He was then shot to death.

Well that was about ~30 years ago... So this is pretty much the largest in recent times.


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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 23:05:31 Reply

At 10/13/11 10:00 PM, akmeteor wrote: That is GUN violence. Not violence in GENERAL!
I'm convinced you're just a troll now anyway. After that at least.

Moving goalposts eh? This whole topic is about a shooting that occurred in California. A shooting involves guns. That's what we've been talking about all along. Gun violence. Throwing around the word "troll" as if it would delegitimize anything I've said is patently absurd.

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Response to 8 Dead in SoCal Shooting 2011-10-13 23:09:35 Reply

You aren't even getting what I'm saying. Guns are used for protection. Thus violent crimes are more probable without them. Look at what Molotov posted.


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