At 12/15/11 10:57 PM, orangebomb wrote:
Well, VenomKing you've already admitted it was a mistake for the OWS to block the port for the workers, and even though they did try to rectify their mistake, in the long term, that only alienated the workers from ever supporting the cause, especially since it would be hypocritical on their part to join in on the protests, since they are part of the corporate machine or whatever buzzword these guys like to use. Remember, it only takes one dumb move on their part to further isolate themselves farther and farther away from the people.
But wait, weren,t they with unions when they did this? Also I agree with the second part, as a movement it is imperative not to alienate the public. So far I don,t think they did for the most part even if part of the media successfully did make it seem like if they were lazy hippies.
Exactly, with their Starbucks and iPhones and corporate goods in their hands, they are feeding the same corporations that these guys are protesting against.
Exept not. They are fighting against banks and speculators and the corporations that produce nothing and will buy politicians so politicians represent these big companies and not the public.
It's one thing to be anti-corporate, that's fine and dandy, but it's quite another to be a hypocrite, and to sabatoge your own message. The OWS movement wants to have it both ways, and it doesn't work that way, especially when they have corporate goods that some working people, {y'know the 99% that they say their for.} couldn't afford.
Where your argument falls apart is... where right at the beginning, OWS is not anti-corporate. OWS has nothing against big corporations and getting rich.
HOWEVER, when a big corporation uses it's power to rig the system in their favor NOW there's a problem.
If they had true leadership, and not try to act like a fringe group populated by socialist wanna-bes, career protesters, and naive hippies, then they can have some legitmacy among the people. But as of now, they're simply nothing more than annoyances, simply wasting time bitching and moaning about change when they have no reasonable idea on a course of action other than what I just said.
There were so many people and they were so different, you simply cannot call them a fringe.