At 12/13/11 02:16 PM, VenomKing666 wrote:
Listen, facts and what most people believe are completely different things, even if everybody on this planet believed in something erroneous it would not be more of a fact.
if everyone believed it, it would be considered fact. at one point it was a fact that the earth was flat, that the sun revolved around the earth and that if you sailed too far in any direction you would fall off the face of the earth, literally.
Believe me I totally understand what you mean, and it's stupid as fuck.
you have no idea.
Can't you read? I expressly said "human eye" and made the statement as specific as possible so you wouldnt be able to pull off shit like this, and you still did anyways. I know it's perception in that case, hence why I said that with a healthy vision, with normal lighting conditions, HUMANS PERCIEVE grass as green colored.
Grass is green, unless its not green. Wheat is a grain, which is a type of grass and its brown. the sky is blue unless the sun is in the right position,then its a golden or even red color. at night the sky is black (or a seriously dark shade of blue) with white speckles. to say the sky is blue is folly.
That's a fact.
that's perception. to a person with color blindness, which a friend of mine has, regular yard grass and red apples are the same color.
It's a fact about how humans percieve grass in normal conditions. And then I gave the hypotetical situation of me tricking you into believing it was purple, (or it could be anybody else) and the fact you or other people tricked into believing it's purple wouldnt change the greenness of the grass.
your point being? "under normal lighting conditions?" I'll put it like this. grass is green because you see it as green. in a pitch black darkness, grass is invisible... you simply cannot see it.
But if you prefer I could have given other examples like: Getting stabbed in the eye is not a desirable situation.
that's an opinion.
Show me one example where belief effect facts. Do it, I ducking double dare ya. Spoiler: You can't. But that wouldn't be your fault as nobody can because beliefs do not affect facts.
Sure I can. Watermelons are red on the inside, yes? answer truthfully now.
I swear to god the amount of willpower it takes me to not call you an idiot every line of reply I make is superhuman, but you still manage to make me do it.
That's because you fail to grasp the concept. I'll put it like this. take an object. any object (well something, say, a large tree near your home) make a description of the object on a piece of paper. hand someone else a piece of paper and have the describe the same object. compare papers. you won't get the same notes. some things may be in common, but the papers will have differences. it's an example of how your perception affects your view of reality.
The fact anything alive will die at some point is a fact. Stop trying to sound deep. I am starting to believe I am getting trolled here. Really.
and that is the only constant to the universe. if it lives, it WILL die. Planet Earth is not a constant. it will someday be no more. you are not a constant. you will die. Everything else is temporary. I'm not trying to sound deep. I'm just making my point.
blind faith is more prevalent than you think.Is that a fact or is that your perception? HURRRRR
See I can pull off bullshit like this too.
I suppose that would be a question of your perception rather than mine, given that you don't seem to think blind faith exists within you as you lap up Cenk's every word without questioning his motive for saying what he says.
And he would be right. But you can see he's not just bashing bachmann every change he gets.
he would be right? do we have some sort of empirical data to suggest being gay is in fact, normal and doesn't need fixing? If not, then you just made my point for me. thanks.
except, you're not thinking critically. Given you didn't even know what bias was until Camaro explained it to you.Exept I did.
You walk into a barn and find a man standing behind a cow with his pants down. what do you make of the situation?It was very likely he was about to... *get milked*.
nah he was just taking a piss on the dirt floor. it was mere coincidence he was behind the cow. he was facing the corner of the barn. you drew a wrong conclusion from the single fact i gave you.