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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 17:42:07 Reply

At 10/1/11 05:34 PM, serving7 wrote: Anyone that thinks these people deserve better treatment I say are supporters of Al-Qaeda and should be executed on the spot, I volunteer to do the executing.

Well, when you ever get accused of terrorism, or charged with a crime I'll be sure to let the PDs and these people know how you feel about them. Perhaps then, the support you so decry will do exactly what you want; leave to you hang.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 17:50:29 Reply

forget it cam, Serving7 is a liberal posing as an extremist conservative.


ya hear about the guy who put his condom on backwards? He went.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 18:06:55 Reply

At 10/1/11 05:50 PM, Iron-Hampster wrote: forget it cam, Serving7 is a liberal posing as an extremist conservative.

^Agreed and you can trust me on it. People like him will drag you into longwinded arguments just to get you to say something stupid.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 18:08:00 Reply

At 10/1/11 05:41 PM, serving7 wrote: Once you join Al-Qaeda you are no longer a human.

Yeah, whatever makes you sleep at night, dude.

THIS IS WAR!
You are either with us or you are against us, and if you are against us then you are going to get shot. Oh and once you are against us, there is no going back. No "I made a mistake" no "I changed my mind" the very moment you are against us, you basically signed your own death certificate.

Ok, hypothetical curveball here, let's say that either you or one of your family members gets accused of supporting Al Queda, or is a terrorist, you're really going to feel good about backing up that tough talk? And if somehow, you do get charged with terrorism for whatever reason, simply put, you're screwed six ways from Sunday.

Checkmate.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 19:17:13 Reply

At 10/1/11 06:08 PM, orangebomb wrote: Ok, hypothetical curveball here, let's say that either you or one of your family members gets accused of supporting Al Queda, or is a terrorist, you're really going to feel good about backing up that tough talk? And if somehow, you do get charged with terrorism for whatever reason, simply put, you're screwed six ways from .

I do not support terrorism so it would never happen. But lets say it did happen, lets say in some strange situation the papers were mixed and some how I got charged. Well for the greater good I would go with it. For the greater good. If a few innocents have to pay to make the country safe, then so be it.

If I have to die so that other true americans may live, then so be it. I am a true patriot.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-01 19:20:23 Reply

At 10/1/11 07:17 PM, serving7 wrote: I do not support terrorism so it would never happen. But lets say it did happen, lets say in some strange situation the papers were mixed and some how I got charged. Well for the greater good I would go with it. For the greater good. If a few innocents have to pay to make the country safe, then so be it.

If I have to die so that other true americans may live, then so be it. I am a true patriot.

Give me a break. If you were charged you would be crying and begging anyone to let you go, and you would be wanting to call your mommy.

You are nothing but a troll.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-02 00:00:40 Reply

so basically people are agreeing that those assumed of being a terrorist ( i don't think it's proven if he isn't given a trial or caught in the middle of doing something) should be assassinated? wouldn't that be acting out of fear as people often do? you cannot just be assassinated and the excuse was he is a terrorist without a trial. if i say you are a terrorist will people shoot you on sight? if he did something and was caught then yeah he is al-qaeda or w/e if he is not caught doing something or given a fair trial then they shouldn't be killed for being one....


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-02 11:56:16 Reply

At 10/2/11 12:00 AM, thegarbear14 wrote: so basically people are agreeing that those assumed of being a terrorist ( i don't think it's proven if he isn't given a trial or caught in the middle of doing something) should be assassinated?

There's a HUGE difference here. This isn't like Padilla, KSM, or the others we have stashed away at Guantanimo. Osama and al Awaki were killed as enemy combatants in a military action. They were no different than enemy soldiers killed during a bombing of a barracks or a raid on a base.

The minute that specific military actions ceases, THEN the burden shifts. But during military action, openly allying oneself as part of the enemy force and participating in military action with that force then they are nothing other than a soldier. If they are killed, that is the nature of armed combat. If they are captured then they become elligible for the opportunities many here are saying they should have.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 03:40:03 Reply

Right, should have killed him when they had the chance. url Despite prior knowledge of associating with suspects and being designated himself. Xmas day bomb! time to roll out the bodyscanners immediatley after, how convenient

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 05:27:06 Reply

Due process is important to keep even under extreme situations, because if you don't, you get people like Richard Jewell getting wrongly accused of absurd crimes and then punished for them (well, in Jewell's case he was never punished in any official capacity) , only to have the actual culprit appear on the radar shortly thereafter.

I mean I know people in the government want to feel like Jack Bauer, but in all likelihood they'd just be locking away innocent people because of religious and racial background at worst and people with extremely vague and slightly plausible connections to possible terrorists activities instead of actually being terrorists themselves at best.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 07:26:59 Reply

That is, already produced to get rolled out. Atleast he still had the right to privacy.
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/08/
26/state-department-dont-invade-privacy-
cleric-on-cia-kill-list/

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 14:44:23 Reply

At 10/1/11 07:17 PM, serving7 wrote:
At 10/1/11 06:08 PM, orangebomb wrote:
Well for the greater good I would go with it. For the greater good.

Greater good?

COMMUNIST!!!!

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 14:48:08 Reply

Doesn't it prove that the US will fight terrorists regardless of their nationality? Doesn't it prove the US isn't hypocrite about the war on terror?


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-03 16:12:01 Reply

At 10/3/11 02:48 PM, satanbrain wrote: Doesn't it prove that the US will fight terrorists regardless of their nationality? Doesn't it prove the US isn't hypocrite about the war on terror?

I will counter your question with another question:

How so?

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 00:20:12 Reply

At 10/3/11 04:12 PM, Camarohusky wrote: I will counter your question with another question:

How so?

US fight terrorists who are part of it's nation and not only of other nations. US doesn't favor anyone when fighting terror, all will be eliminated.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 00:41:50 Reply

At 9/30/11 07:45 PM, adrshepard wrote: It's all about precedent. If Obama can kill Anwar al-Awlaki, an American citizen, without consequences, than what's to stop him from killing Mitt Romney or Rick Perry?

Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

Indeed! Obama is a really twisted man and I think we are really beginning to see this unravelling of big 'Bama and I think we (me and Korriken in particular) all know that him and his crew are going to do some drastic bad things to the American people if they don't get their way in the next election.

Obama is a president unlike any other U.S president the U.S has had and I'm shocked and appalled that no body is realizing how much of a fool he is.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 01:13:09 Reply

At 10/4/11 12:41 AM, Noonga wrote: Indeed! Obama is a really twisted man and I think we are really beginning to see this unravelling of big 'Bama and I think we (me and Korriken in particular) all know that him and his crew are going to do some drastic bad things to the American people if they don't get their way in the next election.

Yeah. Because people don't say this sort of thing every four years when a president they disagree with gets elected.

Obama is a president unlike any other U.S president the U.S has had and I'm shocked and appalled that no body is realizing how much of a fool he is.

Because he's just another fucking democrat. The only people more obnoxious than the ones who play Obama up to be some sort of Kenyan baby jesus are the ones who try to paint him as some sort of demon-seed that came from the devil's far left leaning nut.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 03:00:41 Reply

At 10/1/11 04:56 PM, Psil0 wrote: I kinda see that as a BS excuse if anything for wanting to give a member of a terrorist organization due process.

I have evidence suggesting Psil0 is working for a terrorist organisation!

Sorry, pal, gonna have to assasinate you.


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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 09:19:56 Reply

At 10/4/11 04:16 AM, RightWingGamer wrote:
At 10/4/11 03:00 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote: I have evidence suggesting Psil0 is working for a terrorist organisation!
That's a pretty tall accusation. You'd better have some shit-flipping evidence.

Well, there's this picture of him with al-Qaeda In The Arabian Peninsula honchos Abu Hurayra Qasim al-Raymi, Said Ali al-Shihri and Abu Hareth Muhammad al-Awfi (shown below). Do they just happen to all be members of the same Naruto or Sailor Moon fan club or is there something more sinister going on here? I'll let you be the judge.

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Response to due process? what due process? 2011-10-04 15:37:18 Reply

At 10/4/11 03:00 AM, SadisticMonkey wrote:
At 10/1/11 04:56 PM, Psil0 wrote: I kinda see that as a BS excuse if anything for wanting to give a member of a terrorist organization due process.
I have evidence suggesting Psil0 is working for a terrorist organisation!

Sorry, pal, gonna have to assasinate you.

Shit... how'd you find out!?