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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 08:23 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 08:12 PM, Autokrator wrote:
At 9/25/11 08:03 PM, TiredPaperBoy wrote: Unfortunatly I support any amount of cover ups that are happening.

It's how the recession got as bad as it did.
Uhh, that's stretching, really far. I don't think random, small groups of protesters caused any significant change in our economic situation. Hysteria didn't cause the financial crisis. Collapse of the housing bubble, irresponsible sub-prime lending, and excessive leveraging caused it.

True, however in the UK it was caused by hysteria mainly, same can't be said about the American debt...

However how can protesting change anything? It's not like people are doing it on purpose, there's no entity or party to change or conquor.

From what I've tried to research, people are pissed with the economic structure coz it failed?... so they're protesting to be communist? That doesn't sound American to me. They want to completely change their economy and it's structure? Yup, a protest'll do that, right away.

One thing a government, all governments are good at is getting money, it's a fact, they can not survive without money, they can't exsist without money, meaning if there isn't anyway, well tough shit really the government failed, there's no action that can be done to change this, suck it up, and go buy something with money 'you actually have' to help the economy.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 08:27 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 03:39 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: it penetrating a buleltproof vest with a 30round magazine but then the guy uses a 10round and shoot somewhere else or something and somehow doesn't seem to even be shooting at anything with it.)

I play call of duty ergo I am a gun expert


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 08:50 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 08:27 PM, Bolo wrote:
At 9/25/11 03:39 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: it penetrating a buleltproof vest with a 30round magazine but then the guy uses a 10round and shoot somewhere else or something and somehow doesn't seem to even be shooting at anything with it.)
I play call of duty ergo I am a gun expert

dude, i own a firearm.... and i am learning about the assault weapons ban. hi point 995ts and some stupid .22 bolt action. a 7.62x39 penetrates kelvar with or without a 30 round magazine.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 08:51 PM Reply

2 firearms my bad. and thanks dude. you obviously know your stuff considering you probably don't.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 08:56 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 08:51 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: 2 firearms my bad. and thanks dude. you obviously know your stuff considering you probably don't.

^^ hes a t0tal expurt, id hier him11!!!!1


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:01 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 08:56 PM, camobch0 wrote:
At 9/25/11 08:51 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: 2 firearms my bad. and thanks dude. you obviously know your stuff considering you probably don't.
^^ hes a t0tal expurt, id hier him11!!!!1

lol also related only pic of me with a firearm that belongs to me. i am not holding it though.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:03 PM Reply

also it was not pointed at my leg that is the ground it is pointed at. bad angle. also it doesn't take an expert to know a little about firearms. although it does take a small amount of experience. ( i have used larger than a .22 as well...)


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:13 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 09:03 PM, thegarbear14 wrote: also it was not pointed at my leg that is the ground it is pointed at. bad angle. also it doesn't take an expert to know a little about firearms. although it does take a small amount of experience. ( i have used larger than a .22 as well...)

omg can i hier u 2 kill this dick butmunch fag i h8 4 me??1 hes such a bitch i h8 him n u seem reely experincd like u culd do it w/o teh cops findin out


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:15 PM Reply

Holy shit dude shits out of wack figures the media WOULD try and cover this up but I believe itll fizzle away quite soon when people get bored


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:20 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 09:13 PM, camobch0 wrote:
omg can i hier u 2 kill this dick butmunch fag i h8 4 me??1 hes such a bitch i h8 him n u seem reely experincd like u culd do it w/o teh cops findin out

you are not good at trolling at all really. it's just sad....
also related...i guess...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFB CA


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:28 PM Reply

At 9/25/11 09:20 PM, thegarbear14 wrote:
At 9/25/11 09:13 PM, camobch0 wrote:
omg can i hier u 2 kill this dick butmunch fag i h8 4 me??1 hes such a bitch i h8 him n u seem reely experincd like u culd do it w/o teh cops findin out
you are not good at trolling at all really. it's just sad....
also related...i guess...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ee925OTFB CA

wut dood im so not trollin lololol!!!1 grrrr im guna kill u bitchfag


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 09:30 PM Reply

More like the media is just covering up a Ron Paul hippie circle jerk.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 25th, 2011 @ 10:37 PM Reply

so what are they protesting against? people being rich?

dumb kids.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 12:48 AM Reply

At 9/25/11 08:03 PM, TiredPaperBoy wrote: Then the banks are in shit.

Do you know how banks work? It's a big system of corruption most people don't realize. That's why some people would rather keep their money at home.

Watch money as debt.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 01:20 AM Reply

This thread gets a bump, and I'll be sending it out all over, too.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 09:12 AM Reply

At 9/26/11 12:48 AM, Jin wrote:
Do you know how banks work? It's a big system of corruption most people don't realize. That's why some people would rather keep their money at home.
Watch money as debt.

Good post.

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A lot of you are highlighting the same point I've made that OWS doesn't have a specific cause. Yes, they are aimless, and as long is it remains that way they will not directly affect any specific change- that doesn't mean it's totally useless though.

This is a gathering of people from ALL political affiliations. Getting them all to agree on one thing will take a hell of a lot of ingenuity. But what they ARE doing is increasing awareness and solidarity. They're making it known that we the people are tired of being rear-ended by the corporate system, and that nobody is alone in the longing for something better. They might not be able to change anything major, but they can make it so that the people who can can no longer ignore the fact that we have a problem. As long as this gains momentum, that will be a very important aspect of what's happening here.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 09:59 AM Reply

The protesters probably deserve what they're getting. I'm sure the police aren't beating them without reason, or using excessive force, and the group could have expected this.

Although they claim that they planned to have no reason on purpose, anyone could do anything for "no reason" and make it sound like an abstract great cause.

This protest was lead by Anonymous right? They've hacked companies in the past, but I think they're just a bunch of bored, yet intelligent people that want an excuse for doing nonsense.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 11:13 AM Reply

At 9/26/11 09:59 AM, mega855 wrote: The protesters probably deserve what they're getting. I'm sure the police aren't beating them without reason, or using excessive force, and the group could have expected this.

I have watched the police commit unprovoked violence. What you are saying is simply ignorance to the truth of what's really going on in the streets of New York right now. They're using violence and intimidation to 'keep control' of the demonstrators, despite the fact that the demonstrators are only peacefully gathering (with very rare exceptions).

Although they claim that they planned to have no reason on purpose, anyone could do anything for "no reason" and make it sound like an abstract great cause.

But there is a reason. Pay attention.

This protest was lead by Anonymous right? They've hacked companies in the past, but I think they're just a bunch of bored, yet intelligent people that want an excuse for doing nonsense.

No. It was started by AdBusters. This has nothing to do with Anonymous besides the fact that 'members' have shown up in the gathering.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 11:24 AM Reply

The news puts a blanket on a lot of things. This is no surprise to me.

I really just think that they're all being retarded. From what I read, they have no clear reason to do this. This leads me to believe that they're just stirring up trouble. Maybe they should get a leader, because the rag tag bunch deal ain't goin' down.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 03:01 PM Reply

At 9/26/11 12:48 AM, Jin wrote:
At 9/25/11 08:03 PM, TiredPaperBoy wrote: Then the banks are in shit.
Do you know how banks work? It's a big system of corruption most people don't realize. That's why some people would rather keep their money at home.

Watch money as debt.

What the shit?

"Today, MONEY IS DEBT. If there were NO DEBT there would be NO MONEY."

I need to read that much to realise whatever the fuck that is, it's stupid.

Yes the banks lend more money than they have, how is that a problem as long as people actually pay that shit back.

It's not corrupt, it's common knowledge that this is how banks work, whats wrong with it? Why is it corrupt?

It's a bussiness, gotta make money and thats a damn good way as long as people don't flake out on their debts, which happened because your dumbass banks lent to everyone and anyone with a pulse, which Europe or atleast the UK, had invested in.

Debt is debt, a lack of money is debt. Money has value, a value we assign it as a form of trading. Don't like money? Go back fuck knows how many thousands of years and trade chickens and stuff of equal value... however, the evolve as a society and use currency.

Basically, the problem is, everyone who was lent money, lost it all, and then everyone who lent the money to these failures, had lots of property and shit they reproccessed where they had to no money and since this was the case in alot of scenarios, there was a huge supply of worthless goods, with no one to buy em.

Money isn't evil, people who fold on their debts are.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 04:12 PM Reply

At 9/26/11 03:01 PM, TiredPaperBoy wrote:
At 9/26/11 12:48 AM, Jin wrote:
At 9/25/11 08:03 PM, TiredPaperBoy wrote: Then the banks are in shit.
Do you know how banks work? It's a big system of corruption most people don't realize. That's why some people would rather keep their money at home.

Watch money as debt.
What the shit?

"Today, MONEY IS DEBT. If there were NO DEBT there would be NO MONEY."

I need to read that much to realise whatever the fuck that is, it's stupid.

Yes the banks lend more money than they have, how is that a problem as long as people actually pay that shit back.

It's not corrupt, it's common knowledge that this is how banks work, whats wrong with it? Why is it corrupt?

It's a bussiness, gotta make money and thats a damn good way as long as people don't flake out on their debts, which happened because your dumbass banks lent to everyone and anyone with a pulse, which Europe or atleast the UK, had invested in.

Debt is debt, a lack of money is debt. Money has value, a value we assign it as a form of trading. Don't like money? Go back fuck knows how many thousands of years and trade chickens and stuff of equal value... however, the evolve as a society and use currency.

Basically, the problem is, everyone who was lent money, lost it all, and then everyone who lent the money to these failures, had lots of property and shit they reproccessed where they had to no money and since this was the case in alot of scenarios, there was a huge supply of worthless goods, with no one to buy em.

Money isn't evil, people who fold on their debts are.

That's actually pretty uneducated. For one (though there's quite a few things wrong with what you said), all of our money comes from the Federal reserve, which isn't actually federal. It basically IS debt. You basically just said "here's information that I'm not familiar with and it seems abnormal to what I already suspect, so it's stupid'. Have an open mind and learn something, why don't you? Alternatively, you can have a closed mind and argue against points when you haven't taken the time to actually learn what they are. One of these seems wise. The other seems... not.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 04:53 PM Reply

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 04:58 PM Reply

If they're not serious enough about it to actually rule the streets with protest, then they're not going to get anywhere.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 26th, 2011 @ 05:47 PM Reply

It's probably because the news only cares about protests that are actually going to make a difference, or have a clear and valid point in the first place.


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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 27th, 2011 @ 04:48 PM Reply

These people are protesting illegally and not in the spirit of the USA. Their protests have no business disrupting the peace, blocking traffic, blocking businesses, etc. They are just costing the tax payers even more by exhausting police resources.


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At 9/27/11 04:48 PM, WadeFulp wrote: These people are protesting illegally and not in the spirit of the USA. Their protests have no business disrupting the peace, blocking traffic, blocking businesses, etc. They are just costing the tax payers even more by exhausting police resources.

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Response to Media blacking out major protest!!! Sep. 27th, 2011 @ 04:57 PM Reply

I'm a humanist long before I'm a patriot. I think we are no where near the potential or peak of humanity's societal structure, and we're far from the path towards it. I also feel like the people that have all the money will continue to make that progression harder as long as they're allowed to, because in the end it keeps them rich.

I think the very fact that the state of affairs is such that this many people could gather for no specific cause other than that they're sick of the way our system works means something. That's what this is about. It's the increased solidarity it brings to people who believe things should be better than they are now- and there are a LOT of people who think like me on this. We don't all agree on everything, but we're tired of feeling rear-ended by our socioeconomic structure.