It seems to me a very meaningful club. May I join?
At 8/27/11 01:23 PM, Confucianism wrote:
Confucianism does not believe in the hereafter, paradise or hell, nor do the followers believe in resurrection. Confucianists were, for the most part, concerned with improving their life affairs with no concern of the true destination of the spirit after it leaves the body of the deceased. One of the disciples once asked Confucius about death, Confucius answered concisely: "We haven't yet finished studying life to delve into the question of death."
I must respectfully disagree. Confucius taught us not to dwell upon such topics for they are not important. What he did not want to see was what Li Shangyin described in his poem Jia Sheng: ä¸é-®è<ç"Yé-®é¬¼ç¥z (not asking about the lives of the people, but about ghosts and gods). We were never told that the stories of ghosts and gods were untrue. I think that's why we had ä¸o/ooæ*TMå^æµ, the merging of the 'three teachings' - that of the Buddha, of Confucius and of Laozi. While I believe that the Jade Emperor, Yama and dragons in seas are largely, if not completely, untrue, we don't need to go to Han Yu's extreme, much less the Song and Ming Neo-Confucians'. Have you heard of the ridiculous stories about the dogmatism that became of Neo-Confucianism? That came to mind when I read therealanimator's post: 'True but hey confucianism doesn't tell us who to hate or what we should do or wear. Some of the popular religions do.' In a way, I think that is much worse than pondering over xuanwus and qilins.