At 8/22/11 02:22 PM, ornery wrote:
At 8/22/11 06:46 AM, CorpseGrinderClock wrote:
Those groups were all boring one-note imitations of stuff the clock crew did.This.
The difference between the Clocks and most of the other groups is that the clocks had a different motive.
The locks and Star syndicate, while practically direct ripoffs (especially the Lock Legion) followed the similar path.
I'm really not sure where you got that idea, but it's not at all true; the Star Syndicate set the pattern that the Duck Division and Legion of Doom, as well as many spammers not affiliated with a significant group (usernamed, Orangebeef, Levon, Kavinel, Fleek, etc.), followed. Sevenstar got deleted for flooding the BBS with links to minigirls (a child porn site that was widely suspected of being an FBI honeypot), cr0m started the trend of mass account hacking (seriously, where do you think the term 'yeeked' came from?), Goldencat wrote and distributed the SS virus, and supposedly they were stealing dailies several years before I made that a trend.
They were also a showcase of underrated artists, of course, and a lot of prominent animators got their start there, but they definitely did not follow in the 'harmless fun' mold (although it wasn't seen as harmless in its time!) of the Clock Crew.
Id say the kitty krew was the last of the noble spam groups. while they never really evolved out of their spam, individual authors who were part of the group had major talent, and often would produce fantastic solo stuff. The KK only wanted spam and a few awards (the award stealing which they more or less grew out of), and because of that they were more of a nuisance than a blessing in disguise.
The original KK were fucking brilliant, but the only people they ever had with any amount of talent were Kottbullar and squeef. And I think they were only 'noble' here because they devoted most of their malicious energies toward the forum itself.
Then you had groups like the Barney Bunch, The Duck Division, etc. who completely missed the point. They were less organized and community based and more about using malicious methods to get their stuff passed, or snag awards, or attack other parts of the site.
The DD was community-based; we just weren't big enough to have a significant community, and a lot of the people in it kept their identities secret. Either that or they were new to the scene, which wouldn't be surprising since I know some of them (Hooker) were. I'm still not sure who half of the members were, and I didn't realize the admin was s0und until right before he left.
I guess the DD didn't look community-based because a lot of the spammers who didn't want to affiliate with any real group ended up as orbiters, and the DD became well-known right around the time forums started to be replaced by Skype.
Another thing that everyone here seems to be forgetting is that a lot of spammers weren't part of any group. The best spam in 2007-2009 was done by independent actors, some of whom (squeef, Usernamed, myself to a certain extent) were probably more influential than any group members at the time. That's probably a large part of why spam died out; a large part of effective trolling in this context is building a reputation, which is a lot easier to do in a group. Hell, I can't even think of any spammers who managed to build a reputation on their own, besides whoever was behind the Robot Rangers, and for obvious reasons, that doesn't count. Snaws or Fleek might have, although I can't remember, and it's possible that I did and I just never noticed. (Fuck knows most of this shit was my fault anyway; I was damn near the only active spammer for the first half of 2008, and I (re)popularized both mass yeeking (although I only learned that particular trick from Usernamed) and stealing dailies.)
God I feel old.
At 8/22/11 04:15 PM, SCTE3 wrote:
Pretty sure k3ltron and BFK have done a few good submissions in the latest years. So they are kind of around but disbanded for the most part.
Who the fuck is k3ltron?
At 8/22/11 05:01 PM, pokemon-trainerBROCK wrote:
Star Syndicate's still going: http://z7.invisionfree.com/TheStarSyndic ate/index.php?act=idx
So is the Kitty Krew, but as far as I know, they haven't done anything on NG in ages.
At 8/22/11 06:12 PM, REVIV wrote:
because all the 13 year olds who got pissed so easily moved to youtube and nobody here reviews SHIT or even shows a reaction
p much, also it became practically impossible to get anything to pass in... early 2009 I think? and a bunch of people got bored then and either developed a real life or wandered off to troll TF2 instead
At 8/22/11 08:30 PM, ThreeStar wrote:
u wish bb :-*