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Than why has women who lied about sexual harassment or lied about rape never been punished for there misdeeds?

Have you not been paying attention to the situation in Afghanistan? Do you know that there, men have a right to rape women whenever they want? Do you know that women can get arrested for not covering up there faces and driving a car? The problem you should be addressing is women's rights. Besides, why would anyone lie about getting raped?

At 8/9/11 05:06 AM, DrunkenMonkey123 wrote:

Than why has women who lied about sexual harassment or lied about rape never been punished for there misdeeds?

Have you not been paying attention to the situation in Afghanistan? Do you know that there, men have a right to rape women whenever they want? Do you know that women can get arrested for not covering up there faces and driving a car? The problem you should be addressing is women's rights. Besides, why would anyone lie about getting raped?

On your first point:
The MRA mainly focusses on the Western World, because that's where the problems for men are. Feminists do too, but without good reasons. Feminists should be centering on, for example, the Middle-East, like you said. And why the MRA focusses on the Western World? Because the Western Civilization should be, well, civilized. Which it isn't, or at least when adressing gender issues.

On your second point:
Why people would lie about getting raped? Your ignorance and/or general lack of education on this subject is truly mind-boggling!

In marriage:
1. To get the custody of the children;
2. To hurt their (former) husbands even more.

In general:
1. Personal grudges;
2. The ease with which women can do such things;
3. Attempting to get sympathy or money from people...

And many more reasons, probably.

At 8/9/11 07:34 AM, ThaB00MZ0R wrote: And many more reasons, probably.

You actually forgot one of the more common reasons, to cover up that they had consensual sex.

At 8/9/11 09:16 AM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 8/9/11 07:34 AM, ThaB00MZ0R wrote: And many more reasons, probably.

You actually forgot one of the more common reasons, to cover up that they had consensual sex.

Very true

At 8/9/11 05:06 AM, DrunkenMonkey123 wrote: Have you not been paying attention to the situation in Afghanistan? Do you know that there, men have a right to rape women whenever they want? Do you know that women can get arrested for not covering up there faces and driving a car? The problem you should be addressing is women's rights. Besides, why would anyone lie about getting raped?

These are legitimate things the feminists should be focusing on instead of doing stupid slut walks because some cop said common sense advice in a poltically incorrect way.

At 8/4/11 11:49 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote:

At 8/4/11 06:29 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: I think getting screwed over can work for both sexes. I always tell people, don't believe a woman when she says she's on the Pill, and don't believe a man when he says he has a condom or is firing blanks. Both sexes can lie.

Here is the difference the cops are much more likely to back up a woman's lies than any of your lies.

Oh bullshit.

AFAIK Khan hasn't been convicted yet and the cops called out Casey Anthony as being a liar during the trial. She did get convicted of lying to the police.

At 8/10/11 04:23 AM, FatherTime89 wrote:

At 8/4/11 11:49 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote:

At 8/4/11 06:29 PM, RydiaLockheart wrote: I think getting screwed over can work for both sexes. I always tell people, don't believe a woman when she says she's on the Pill, and don't believe a man when he says he has a condom or is firing blanks. Both sexes can lie.

Here is the difference the cops are much more likely to back up a woman's lies than any of your lies.

Oh bullshit.

AFAIK Khan hasn't been convicted yet and the cops called out Casey Anthony as being a liar during the trial. She did get convicted of lying to the police.

Also if the police bought her lies they wouldn't have put her on trial. It was a jury who found her innocent of murder, not the police, or a judge.

At 8/9/11 05:06 AM, DrunkenMonkey123 wrote:

Besides, why would anyone lie about getting raped?

To get an advantage if they're in the middle of a divorce.
Revenge.

Not all women are mentally sound and some of them don't need good reasons to do things (this isn't a crack at women, there are mentally unsound men as well).

Why would a woman lie about being raped? idk my first gf said she was raped in grade 11 at her old high school i finaly got her to tell me what happened shed told me about other sexule abuse before but she did so so willin'ly then she said things about what happend on the football feld " the hit me" she said " you never hit a lady i said"

"Shut up this is realy emtional!" she said
i whent silent for bout a minet "ahat di they do?" i asked
she said "i don't rember much" after that she cyred on my shouldeer (i think it was on my shoulder but she cryed) I'd never seen her do that before! every time she told me something happend to her she'd lagh or change the subject...
but thius time she told me all she rembered not much she said "when you go walking into class in a riped up cheer leader uinform people talk..." that more than any thing eles i belive to be truesure she lied to me abot lots but so did i to her that why we broke up
she keep much hiden and secrite why or how clould you convice me face to face that you where Raped if it did'nt happen....you can't! epesaly if your a women. men just don't tell i knew i know a guy who got rapoed hge acted completly differnt from my gf when he told me but i beliveds him what if you knew a close friend or gf/bf who was raped would you belive them... or is your souke on vaction

i aske you this yellow power ranger are you cold as ice or do you realy think more than a hand fgul of women in the western wold do this? stuides show 1/3 women will be sexaly assated in there life time! and 1/6 men both thosesa number are largely considered lkow because some people don't report it

At 8/10/11 06:15 AM, highschooldude wrote: Why would a woman lie about being raped? idk my first gf said she was raped in grade 11 at her old high school i finaly got her to tell me what happened shed told me about other sexule abuse before but she did so so willin'ly then she said things about what happend on the football feld " the hit me" she said " you never hit a lady i said"

"Shut up this is realy emtional!" she said
i whent silent for bout a minet "ahat di they do?" i asked
she said "i don't rember much" after that she cyred on my shouldeer (i think it was on my shoulder but she cryed) I'd never seen her do that before! every time she told me something happend to her she'd lagh or change the subject...
but thius time she told me all she rembered not much she said "when you go walking into class in a riped up cheer leader uinform people talk..." that more than any thing eles i belive to be truesure she lied to me abot lots but so did i to her that why we broke up
she keep much hiden and secrite why or how clould you convice me face to face that you where Raped if it did'nt happen....you can't! epesaly if your a women. men just don't tell i knew i know a guy who got rapoed hge acted completly differnt from my gf when he told me but i beliveds him what if you knew a close friend or gf/bf who was raped would you belive them... or is your souke on vaction

i aske you this yellow power ranger are you cold as ice or do you realy think more than a hand fgul of women in the western wold do this? stuides show 1/3 women will be sexaly assated in there life time! and 1/6 men both thosesa number are largely considered lkow because some people don't report it

He is not cold as ice. He is rational. There's a difference between the too. And it is definitely more than 'a handful of women', according to the statistics that do not use pseudo-data such as '9 out of 10 women do not report rape' (never proven) or 'if a women says she has been raped, she has been raped' (ignorant, false, stupid, and a hella lot of other negative adjectives).

Those 'studies' you are referring to are purely propaganda. Not a single person that I asked to present evidence for those 'studies', or even a publication of it managed to give me a reasonable answer.

On your story... There is quite the chance that she is just emotionally manipulating you in order to get support/sympathy/false witnesses. Almost all women can fake crying. Also, work on your fucking grammar. I have a lot of trouble to read a single of your sentences, so I just skipped to the later part. If you want me to read it all, fix your stuff.

On your second point:
Why people would lie about getting raped? Your ignorance and/or general lack of education on this subject is truly mind-boggling!

What the hell do you expect? I'm only 13, I'm no law expert! Also, more men have lied about raping women than women have.

At 8/10/11 11:43 AM, DrunkenMonkey123 wrote: What the hell do you expect? I'm only 13, I'm no law expert! Also, more men have lied about raping women than women have.

alright find me scientific data , law statistics, government studies, any kind of evidence at all to back up your claim.

At 8/10/11 12:49 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote:

At 8/10/11 11:43 AM, DrunkenMonkey123 wrote: What the hell do you expect? I'm only 13, I'm no law expert! Also, more men have lied about raping women than women have.

alright find me scientific data , law statistics, government studies, any kind of evidence at all to back up your claim.

Damn, you beat me to it!

At 8/10/11 06:15 AM, highschooldude wrote: i aske you this yellow power ranger are you cold as ice or do you realy think more than a hand full of women in the western wold do this? studies show 1/3 women will be sexually assaulted in there life time! and 1/6 men both those number are largely considered i know because some people don't report it

You can't be jumping to conclusions based on the number of unreported rape statistics because they are exactly that unreported.

You can't study anything unreported because it's impossible and what you are saying is nothing more than feminist propaganda.

Look, I'm not arguing any longer. You've made your point and I've made mine.

At 8/10/11 01:03 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: propaganda.

Your use of this word is on the verge of backfiring there little one.

At 8/10/11 09:05 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 8/10/11 01:03 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: propaganda.

Your use of this word is on the verge of backfiring there little one.

How is making up stats about unreported rapes not propaganda?

You can't keep track of the numbers of unreported anything because it's impossible.

At 8/10/11 10:27 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote:

My issue is not with your comment about the numbers but about the manner in which you use the word propoganda. In my experience people who use the word "propoganda" to dismiss arguments are themselves either the victims of, or spouters of, propoganda.

How is making up stats about unreported rapes not propaganda?
You can't keep track of the numbers of unreported anything because it's impossible.

1/6 males being sexually absued before age 18 does not take into account unreported abuse.
The statistic for adult women is much mroe complicated. There are a great deal of places where woman can report rape without it ever being passed on to law enforcement. As a student member of NCVLI, I have heard this statistic from people who work t women's help homes, district attorneys, and the founder of the institute. When there are people who complain about fake rape, or those who complain that women get so much preferential treatment, that they would rather not report and internalize the problem. For many women, retelling the story is equivalent to reliving the attack. When it comes to reporting to the police, not only do they have to tell it numerous times, they face scrutiny by defense attorneys trying to defeat the claim, prosecutors trying to solidify their case, and other who would just ridicule for their own personal reasons. Our society still has the stigma that when a woman is raped it is somehow inherently her fault.

At 8/10/11 10:40 PM, Camarohusky wrote: My issue is not with your comment about the numbers but about the manner in which you use the word propoganda. In my experience people who use the word "propoganda" to dismiss arguments are themselves either the victims of, or spouters of, propoganda.

fair enough

1/6 males being sexually absued before age 18 does not take into account unreported abuse.

The statistic for adult women is much more complicated.

:There are a great deal of places where woman can report rape without it ever being passed on to law enforcement. As a student member of NCVLI, I have heard this statistic from people who work at women's help homes, district attorneys, and the founder of the institute.
When there are people who complain about fake rape, or those who complain that women get so much preferential treatment, that they would rather not report and internalize the problem.

These rapes have actually been reported on some level and i would be interested in seeing documentation of this.

:For many women, retelling the story is equivalent to reliving the attack. When it comes to reporting to the police, not only do they have to tell it numerous times, they face scrutiny by defense attorneys trying to defeat the claim, prosecutors trying to solidify their case, and other who would just ridicule for their own personal reasons. Our society still has the stigma that when a woman is raped it is somehow inherently her fault.

Fine but male rape victims have it even worse since apparently men can not be raped by women.

At 8/10/11 10:40 PM, Camarohusky wrote: 1/6 males being sexually absued before age 18 does not take into account unreported abuse.
For many women, retelling the story is equivalent to reliving the attack. When it comes to reporting to the police, not only do they have to tell it numerous times, they face scrutiny by defense attorneys trying to defeat the claim, prosecutors trying to solidify their case, and other who would just ridicule for their own personal reasons. Our society still has the stigma that when a woman is raped it is somehow inherently her fault.

Fine but male victims of rape or domestic abuse get even worse treatment by law enforcement.

This system needs a lot of fixing

At 8/2/11 02:26 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: men have no reproductive rights whats so ever.

That appears to be a great exaggeration. Isn't a woman a lot more inclined to take care of an infant seeing as how it comes from her own body?

At 8/11/11 07:24 PM, Ericho wrote:

At 8/2/11 02:26 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: men have no reproductive rights whats so ever.

That appears to be a great exaggeration. Isn't a woman a lot more inclined to take care of an infant seeing as how it comes from her own body?

If a man wants to avoid being a father he has to get a vasectomy and use condoms to avoid std's in fact he doesn't have any other options.

There was almost gonna be a law for paternity tests to be necessary for all pregnancies in California until female protesters pressured the government to not pass this law.

At 8/11/11 01:57 AM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: Fine but male victims of rape or domestic abuse get even worse treatment by law enforcement.

No they don't.

At 8/11/11 12:11 AM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: These rapes have actually been reported on some level and i would be interested in seeing documentation of this.

The links I provided had studies the it cited to.

Fine but male rape victims have it even worse since apparently men can not be raped by women.

Yes they can. Sure, the woman may have a major obstacle in raping a man, it can definitely be done.

At 8/11/11 08:44 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: If a man wants to avoid being a father he has to get a vasectomy and use condoms to avoid std's in fact he doesn't have any other options.

He can not have sex.

There was almost gonna be a law for paternity tests to be necessary for all pregnancies in California until female protesters pressured the government to not pass this law.

Sounds like the women got together to help men's rights. Either way, it does make sense. I mean it's pretty easy after a birth to tell who the mother is, whereas it's very difficult to definitevely figure out who the biological father is.

At 8/11/11 09:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote: He can not have sex.

True but she can also lie about the baby being his anyways.

Sounds like the women got together to help men's rights. Either way, it does make sense. I mean it's pretty easy after a birth to tell who the mother is, whereas it's very difficult to definitevely figure out who the biological father is.

Yes but how does preventing a law that makes dna tests a requirement help men?

At 8/11/11 09:10 PM, Camarohusky wrote: He can not have sex.

This might also mean avoiding oral sex too since i read a story about a woman saving the ejaculated sperm in her mouth.

and than using it to impregnate herself.

At 8/11/11 10:26 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: This might also mean avoiding oral sex too since i read a story about a woman saving the ejaculated sperm in her mouth.
and than using it to impregnate herself.

Tabasco lube should solve this problem...

I'm curious as to what the conclusion should be for the issue at rape.
Assuming the woman is lying, until she can bring forth hard evidence?
Putting rape cases as a thing that justice doesn't have to interfere with? (if they get raped, it's their own fault, hence no need to bring down the man)
Or other things?

At 8/15/11 01:58 PM, RubberTrucky wrote: I'm curious as to what the conclusion should be for the issue at rape.
Assuming the woman is lying, until she can bring forth hard evidence?

If the women either admits to be lying or caught lying than she should be punished by having her name, face everywhere as a false accuser as both punishment and a warning to other men not to have sex with her because of how spiteful she is.

Think of it like the boy who cried wolf.

Putting rape cases as a thing that justice doesn't have to interfere with? (if they get raped, it's their own fault, hence no need to bring down the man)
Or other things?

Rapists should be punished but than so should liars on an equal level because they make it more difficult on real victims of rape.

and there are also precautions one can take to decrease there chances of getting raped such as the way the act, the way they dress and being in bad areas.

It's much like locking your doors to protect belongings from theft.

At 8/16/11 02:07 PM, PowerRangerYELLOW wrote: and there are also precautions one can take to decrease there chances of getting raped such as the way the act, the way they dress and being in bad areas.

It's much like locking your doors to protect belongings from theft.

In short do what you have to do in order to protect yourself because the criminal element will pick on whoever appears weak.

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