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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 06:25:07

This is why I love Spazkid


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 06:32:11

At 8/2/11 06:22 AM, Viri wrote: I agree, but it's kinda to be expected, as something "far out" as MLP would raise quite a few eyebrows at first glance. What's more annoying is people making very biased judgements about the show, and those who like it. Just because "It's a kid's show."

It is silly that people who like Spongebob and the like can say that this show is stupid and childish etc, when really entertainment wise they fit the same field of good cartoons. But of course one is about ponies thus can't possibly be good. Don't ever remember anyone complaining about people liking spongebob.
Also I've openly stated my love for other cartoons a lot, Fairly Odd Parents is one I talk about liking a lot, yet not once has anyone said anything bad about me liking that either. Really, how is liking these cartoons different from liking MLP? The difference is that it teaches morals better and more friendship in it and general niceness and happiness, and frankly it has more character development than a lot of shows out there that end exactly the same after each episode. So either people have a problem with happy things or have a problem with good things like character development, which to be honest I don't see how that could ever be a bad thing.

That's understandable, and I agree, it's fairly weird. I have no doubt that a fair share of people claim to like it because it's popular, or just like the meme part of it (image macros, etc). Why you would do that, I'm not really sure.

There are people who just plain like memes, and the image with text on it etc are memes yes, but its annoying when people confuse them with bronies. Or when they claim to love the show themselves when all they do is spam the image and don't care with talking about the show.
People just need to learn that theres 2 parts, theres the show and the meme, and they aren't the same.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 06:36:47

Horrible.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 06:48:48

At 8/2/11 06:32 AM, Ragnarokia wrote:
It is silly that people who like Spongebob and the like can say that this show is stupid and childish etc, when really entertainment wise they fit the same field of good cartoons.

If someone did say that, that would be pretty hilarious. Shows like Spongebob definitely fit in the same field, and as far as I'm concerned they also fit the same demographic as MLP.

But of course one is about ponies thus can't possibly be good. Don't ever remember anyone complaining about people liking spongebob.

I'm sure some people have, naturally but it's nothing like the complaining about people liking MLP. I'm going to guess that it's because Spongebob didn't explode, and build up a massive fanbase over the internet, thus it didn't draw a whole bunch of attention to itself.

If you took the elements of Friendship is Magic, and put it in a whole new setting with new, non-pony characters, no one would bitch about it at all.

Also I've openly stated my love for other cartoons a lot, Fairly Odd Parents is one I talk about liking a lot, yet not once has anyone said anything bad about me liking that either. Really, how is liking these cartoons different from liking MLP? The difference is that it teaches morals better and more friendship in it and general niceness and happiness,

There really is no difference in terms of liking them, which is the funny thing. It's just MLP has a huge vocal following, and those other ones don't, plus the whole moral stuff apparently puts a lot of people off, which I suppose I can see why, but that's no reason to spite a show, and it's fan base.

and frankly it has more character development than a lot of shows out there that end exactly the same after each episode. So either people have a problem with happy things or have a problem with good things like character development, which to be honest I don't see how that could ever be a bad thing.

I think it's a mix of an overload of "happy", and just the shows nature in general. Not to mention MLP's past history, and the general hate towards the show, and the fans seem to put a lot of people off from it.

The funny part about this, is that people are judging the show based on everything, but the show itself.

People just need to learn that theres 2 parts, theres the show and the meme, and they aren't the same.

I agree, and while I find the meme funny at times, I'm all for the show as well.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 07:02:37

At 8/2/11 06:25 AM, Whysomangry wrote: This is why I love Spazkid

I can laugh at the stereotypes portrayed on there. I can laugh less if people use the flash to fuel their hate against a community.
It's a bit like a racist joke. I can laugh at those, some are funny. But if it makes people say "Yeah, black people are a bunch of no good a-holes that need to go back to Africa", I can laugh less at it.
I wonder if Spaz made the flash for humour or just to shit a group of people out....

At 8/2/11 06:12 AM, Cubone wrote: fair enough, i'll be able to accept you guys more if your love for the show lasts. its just how fast MLP gained its popularity and reputation feels like one big bandwagon.

Partially true, I agree. I love it all the more for the community. It takes itself serious enough to actually make a stand. Ponychan for example, has come into existence because ponies were banned on 4chan, is still very much active after 6 months and stay clear of spamming pony porn and whatever. Equestria Daily still gets a lot of hits and has a lot of daily updates. I think it's strong enough to last till season 2, even if it were to die down a little.
On the other hand, most bronies still see the show as a funny hobby. hence a lot of comedy and self-humour seeps into the fan-art and fan-comics.

Personally, i see the 'brony' community on par with my view on the NG community, just that there's a common topic everybody interests in.

At 8/2/11 03:21 AM, Ragnarokia wrote: If people really want to say stuff against the show and want us to join in with the humor put a bit of effort into making it actually good. Rather than just "show sucks" 24/7. Try be a little bit inventive with things.

Definitely needs a flash on all the animation shortcuts and errors the show has and some of the more ridiculous plot points.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 07:36:13

At 8/2/11 06:36 AM, FBIpolux wrote: Horrible.

well at least you posted something


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 07:41:46

The thing is, which I might reckon you already know, most people who hate the show base their opinions on the people who do watch it, the fans. The show might be fantastic, and from my own opinion of the show, it looks colorful and well written, despite never watching the show myself. It's just that the antics of many fans who go out of their way to force the show into our lives and call themselves 'Bronies' drives the show further away from an eager watcher. I would watch it myself, but from the way I see people act online about it, I keep my distance.

About the pictures, yes, they are cute, but when people start putting adult terms and internet slang in there to infuriate someone, things get out of hand. If this is a show about love and acceptance/tolerance, the fans seem hypocritical of those values.

Signatures are perfectly fine, as they tell a little about yourself and what you like. So you like ponies? Go ahead and put it in your sig, as that is what you like.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 07:53:37

At 8/2/11 07:41 AM, majormario wrote: The thing is, which I might reckon you already know, most people who hate the show base their opinions on the people who do watch it, the fans. The show might be fantastic, and from my own opinion of the show, it looks colorful and well written, despite never watching the show myself. It's just that the antics of many fans who go out of their way to force the show into our lives and call themselves 'Bronies' drives the show further away from an eager watcher. I would watch it myself, but from the way I see people act online about it, I keep my distance.

Incorrect, people base their opinions on what some peoples opinions of the show was and they all follow in suit. If you actually pay attention lately you would notice how many of us on here actually post better than most other users do and whenever in threads like these keep to the discussion rather than derail it. Everyone focuses on what they want to focus on rather than what is really happening. Many people would say absolutely nothing to any of our posts in here, like you currently are completely disregarding the last few pages with your comment. Then as soon as we post a picture suddenly everyone takes note.

About the pictures, yes, they are cute, but when people start putting adult terms and internet slang in there to infuriate someone, things get out of hand. If this is a show about love and acceptance/tolerance, the fans seem hypocritical of those values.

Even more proof you aren't reading posts, the meme isn't the show and isn't what bronies go on about. We can enjoy the meme yes as it's a meme it's meant to be enjoyed. That doesn't mean we say that is the love and tolerance as it's saying stuff like "u mad", it doesn't take a good mind to realize that posts like that are for fun, you know fun right? the thing ALL OTHER USERS are allowed to do and not be commented on.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:00:49

At 8/2/11 07:53 AM, Ragnarokia wrote: Incorrect, people base their opinions on what some peoples opinions of the show was and they all follow in suit. If you actually pay attention lately you would notice how many of us on here actually post better than most other users do and whenever in threads like these keep to the discussion rather than derail it. Everyone focuses on what they want to focus on rather than what is really happening. Many people would say absolutely nothing to any of our posts in here, like you currently are completely disregarding the last few pages with your comment. Then as soon as we post a picture suddenly everyone takes note.

You underestimate the average human being, as you are underestimating me. I of course have noticed what you do on this thread, and I respect that you're being civilized here by ignoring the ignorant comments of someone who does not like the 'meme'.

Even more proof you aren't reading posts, the meme isn't the show and isn't what bronies go on about. We can enjoy the meme yes as it's a meme it's meant to be enjoyed. That doesn't mean we say that is the love and tolerance as it's saying stuff like "u mad", it doesn't take a good mind to realize that posts like that are for fun, you know fun right? the thing ALL OTHER USERS are allowed to do and not be commented on.

Why are you being so hostile? I said nothing about the 'meme' before, and I know the posts are for fun. However, when that fun is derived from the discomfort and anger of others, that is when things get out of hand.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:09:40

At 8/2/11 07:41 AM, majormario wrote: The thing is, which I might reckon you already know, most people who hate the show base their opinions on the people who do watch it, the fans. The show might be fantastic, and from my own opinion of the show, it looks colorful and well written, despite never watching the show myself. It's just that the antics of many fans who go out of their way to force the show into our lives and call themselves 'Bronies' drives the show further away from an eager watcher. I would watch it myself, but from the way I see people act online about it, I keep my distance.

About the pictures, yes, they are cute, but when people start putting adult terms and internet slang in there to infuriate someone, things get out of hand. If this is a show about love and acceptance/tolerance, the fans seem hypocritical of those values.

Signatures are perfectly fine, as they tell a little about yourself and what you like. So you like ponies? Go ahead and put it in your sig, as that is what you like.

i never understood where exactly the part 'force themselves'? the only real few places where bronies are noticeble is knowyourmeme and one 4chan once in a while...
if you are talking about this thread. you can clearly see that there is no image spam here and we are trying to get a seriuos discussion.
hell this thread wasn't even supposed to be a love/hate debate anyway! but some immature douchbags/trolls have other plans...
(BTW i must say that i am pretty surprised that this thread is constatly on the top of the first page... :P)

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:21:31

At 8/2/11 08:00 AM, majormario wrote:
Why are you being so hostile? I said nothing about the 'meme' before, and I know the posts are for fun. However, when that fun is derived from the discomfort and anger of others, that is when things get out of hand.

I totally respect you about this. I agree 'bronies' should also get their panties less in a twist.
As images are concerned, and it's been mentioned several times already, I can get it seems annoying. But it's simply the same as all other pictures. People use them for trolling or just for fun. Prsonally, I'd say that you must dislike use of reaction macros intead of just blaming it on 'bronies'.

Brony community is also there for great projects like 'Fighting is Magic' and PMV's and fanart, which on itself has some very good entertainment value. Heck, it even has charity projects. Depite a few bvad things, the fanbase has overall worked for betterment.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:25:27

Just a little suggestion here: how about instead of debating the legitimacy of the fandom, how about we just talk about the show?

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:30:09

some gay pony shit that needs to die


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:37:47

At 8/2/11 08:25 AM, ImaSmartass2 wrote: Just a little suggestion here: how about instead of debating the legitimacy of the fandom, how about we just talk about the show?

Fine. What's everybody's favourite pony and why?

Aside from the classic every single one.

For those more fanon-savvy, what's your favourite BG pony and why?


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 08:49:47

At 8/2/11 05:27 AM, FurryDemon wrote: The people that hate the Brony fad make a big deal of bronies and just make it more popular and talked about.

this. thanks haters

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 10:35:26

At 8/2/11 08:00 AM, majormario wrote: Why are you being so hostile?

How exactly am I being hostile, seriously people always pick on whatever they can get their hands on whenever we post.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 10:41:21

At 8/2/11 08:37 AM, RubberTrucky wrote:
At 8/2/11 08:25 AM, ImaSmartass2 wrote: Just a little suggestion here: how about instead of debating the legitimacy of the fandom, how about we just talk about the show?

We keep trying to before people force it to be about if its true or not, oh we lost all the haters in this thread? No they just arent being as openly hating and instead force us to have to defend ourselves. Very sad that no one can allow us just to be able to talk to each other anymore.

Fine. What's everybody's favourite pony and why?

Rainbow Dash, I love her personality and even though she doesn't have a lot on common with me like Fluttershy does, I just find her incredibly interesting and always fun, kind of like the me I want to be.

For those more fanon-savvy, what's your favourite BG pony and why?

Lyra is mine, I love her and Bon-bon. I do like to think that they planned those two to be together as often as they were because they have a close relationship. At least thats how its hinted at and I like to think its true.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:02:24

At 8/2/11 10:35 AM, Ragnarokia wrote:
At 8/2/11 08:00 AM, majormario wrote: Why are you being so hostile?
How exactly am I being hostile, seriously people always pick on whatever they can get their hands on whenever we post.

think of it like this..
we are not hostile... we are just sitting around a campfire with a couple of drinks, talking about what we passionately love, and a bunch of assholes in the campsite next to us are screaming their heads off about ponies...
us sitting out our little fire have had far more experience with it so we lay back, take a sip, and look at each other with a slight of disappointment..

bronies are never hostile... we will argue.. but we are not about to go ape, rage, post ponies and spam :/
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or unless you feed us bad oats.. im not partial to bad oats


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:03:55

At 8/2/11 01:02 PM, tox wrote: bronies are never hostile... we will argue.. but we are not about to go ape, rage, post ponies and spam :/

you guys never spam? are you kidding?

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:05:43

At 8/2/11 01:03 PM, GiantDouche wrote:
At 8/2/11 01:02 PM, tox wrote: bronies are never hostile... we will argue.. but we are not about to go ape, rage, post ponies and spam :/
you guys never spam? are you kidding?

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:07:10

At 8/2/11 01:03 PM, GiantDouche wrote:
At 8/2/11 01:02 PM, tox wrote: bronies are never hostile... we will argue.. but we are not about to go ape, rage, post ponies and spam :/
you guys never spam? are you kidding?

9 pics to probably well over 50,000 characters..
i think we are doing... just ... fine


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:09:03

whatever. i hope you guys do get a group in c&c so there aren't any pony threads in general.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:16:36

At 8/2/11 01:09 PM, GiantDouche wrote: whatever. i hope you guys do get a group in c&c so there aren't any pony threads in general.

You do realize that almost every single brony thread that has ever exsited on newgrounds was started by anti-bronies, right?

Hey, anyone know much about derpy hooves? i saw her once in the first episode, at that party, but i cant remember seeing her anywhere els


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:22:55

This threads boring.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:22:58

At 8/2/11 01:03 PM, GiantDouche wrote:
At 8/2/11 01:02 PM, tox wrote: bronies are never hostile... we will argue.. but we are not about to go ape, rage, post ponies and spam :/
you guys never spam? are you loco in the coco?

Fixed...

At 8/2/11 01:16 PM, Xenomit wrote:
Hey, anyone know much about derpy hooves? i saw her once in the first episode, at that party, but i cant remember seeing her anywhere els

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Also, prominently in contest of 'Sonic Rainboom' and derping it up as a mover in 'Feeling Pinkie Keen'.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:23:04

At 8/2/11 01:16 PM, Xenomit wrote: You do realize that almost every single brony thread that has ever exsited on newgrounds was started by anti-bronies, right?

Nope.

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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:26:42

At 8/2/11 01:09 PM, GiantDouche wrote: whatever. i hope you guys do get a group in c&c so there aren't any pony threads in general.

i may dislike you, but honestly... thankyou,
we are trying to get out of your guys hair, we really are.. but mods shut us down, admins wont reply, but we believe in the show and the ideas behind it extensivly :/

in related news, a number of people on 4chan are also trying to new forum for ponies instead of /co/


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:26:52

At 8/2/11 01:25 PM, Timchik wrote: From what I've heard, this show is supposed to actually be good. I've never watched it though... And I also heard that the original was obviously sunshine lollipops etc.

It is good. You should watch it


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:33:33

At 8/2/11 01:26 PM, tox wrote:
in related news, a number of people on 4chan are also trying to new forum for ponies instead of /co/

If you're talking about ponychan, that's old news.

Also, regarding the Derpy question: video.


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Response to MLP serious discussion thread 2011-08-02 13:34:42

At 8/2/11 01:33 PM, RubberTrucky wrote: Also, regarding the Derpy question: video.

Ah.

Love that gal'


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