Contract for life

[Korriken]

the almighty link.

So, here in Louisiana, in East Baton Rouge Parish, the justice system has come up with an ingenious plan.

East Baton Rouge Parish District Attorney Hillar Moore III, came up with this idea (I reckon he did anyway, I can't find any info on the idea being used elsewhere) basically in return for being spared the death penalty, you get to confess to your crime, agree to spend the rest of your life down on the farm (Angola Prison) for the rest of your life. no pardons, no parole, you WILL die at Angola. You also agree to never be relocated anywhere else, ever. You also agree the defense lawyer gave you competent counsel.

So, what DOES this mean for Louisiana? Well, if this idea catches on it could save the state a nice pile of cash because there will be no trial, no parole hearings, none of that. also, like I said, Angola is one BIG farm, it also does other things like the yearly Angola Rodeo, which brings in a huge crowd and makes the prison a nice little pile of cash.

[Camarohusky]

Sounds like a standard plea down to me.

[camobch0]

Sounds like a good deal.

[Iron-Hampster]

more productive than gladiator fights.

[Korriken]

At 7/28/11 09:37 PM, Iron-Hampster wrote: more productive than gladiator fights.

nonsense. reducing spending isn't as good as turning an actual profit. you didn't learn much in economics class did ya? (you know i'm just bustin your chops)

[Camarohusky]

At 7/28/11 11:07 PM, Korriken wrote: nonsense. reducing spending isn't as good as turning an actual profit. you didn't learn much in economics class did ya? (you know i'm just bustin your chops)

If onyl Boehner knew this...

[Warforger]

Except you're still going to need a huge security force for that, if Angola farms are big then it could cost the state more money then otherwise but someone would have to do the numbers.

[Korriken]

At 7/28/11 09:17 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Sounds like a standard plea down to me.

well not quite, with a contract for life you pretty much lose every tool possible to ever get free. no parole, no prison transfer, no asking for clemency or a pardon, nothing. you basically agree to sit down, shut up, and accept that your life in society is done and its prison until the day you stop breathing. Even if you do "change" and become such a great person that you literally begin glowing in divine light, you're still not getting out.

One thing you need to know about this, there is a VERY good reason WHY there is a stipulation that you can never be transferred between prisons. Its because the contract also states you must spend your sentence in Angola Prison. Having lived in Louisiana most of my life, I know about Angola. It's a hellish place. you work day in day out, you get paid pennies. It's not like you see in prison movies where everyone sits around all day, playing cards, with an occasional rape scene. No, Angola is as close to slave labor as you can get without being actual slavery.

Difference is, at Angola, your chains are earned, not forced on you. You earned those chains of servitude when you committed your crime, and now you get to spend the rest of your life paying society back for what you did, in hard labor.

That's why the contract is stipulated the way it is. to force the person into Angola for the rest of their life, to toil under the hot Louisiana sun til the day they die and there isn't a damn thing they can do about it. They also can't clog up the system with a bunch of requests either. all aimed to drive down the cost of their incarceration.

it's sheer brilliance!

[Korriken]

At 7/28/11 11:37 PM, Warforger wrote: Except you're still going to need a huge security force for that, if Angola farms are big then it could cost the state more money then otherwise but someone would have to do the numbers.

Angola has a huge farm, complete with livestock, food crops, and cash crops, several factories, a museum, its very own rodeo, its own magazine publication and a radio station, there's plenty for the prisoners to do and most of it helps pay for the prison.

If more prisoners were run like Angola, it would be a lot of help for America as a whole. Most prisons consist of prisoners sitting around becoming better criminals, once they get free, they try again and wind up back in prison.

either that or the prisons are so cozy that they WANT to go back. Angola offers neither. keep the prisoners too busy to think about committing crimes, make them work their asses off, offering them not a cushy life that they desire.

The prison also offers vocational schooling for various fields. Many prisoners (if they get out) leave with useful life skills like Work Ethics, and some schooling they can fall on to get a new start on life... hopefully.

you want rehab in prisons? I'm all for it, just take Angola's approach, it works very well. work the shit out of em, teach em a better way, work the shit out of em some more, then see what happens.

sitting in a prison cell with others prisoners will only make matters worse. put these heathen scum to good use, preferable farming crops. it's good for them, and it helps lower the cost of operating prisons.

[AcetheSuperVillain]

I think people will probably complain that it's basically slave labor. Those poor prisoners! they'll say.

However, it does not bother me personally. We're all broke and getting broker, and I can think of worse ways to make some income than exploiting prisoners.

[Korriken]

At 7/29/11 01:57 AM, AcetheSuperVillain wrote: I think people will probably complain that it's basically slave labor. Those poor prisoners! they'll say.

oh they do. Angola (which used to be a plantation whose owner had many slaves) still looks a lot like a plantation, complete with cotton field. they keep pointing to the largely black population in the prison. oddly enough they somehow manage to forget that you don't just get sent to Angola. you gotta commit a crime first.

[Atlas]

If i killed someone I'd rather spend my life on a farm then get killed a few days after committing the crime. I think if a murderer was given this option or death he would gladly go for the farm option. So I think this is a good idea that should be taken up by other states.

[Camarohusky]

At 7/28/11 11:46 PM, Korriken wrote:

At 7/28/11 09:17 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Sounds like a standard plea down to me.

well not quite, with a contract for life you pretty much lose every tool possible to ever get free. no parole, no prison transfer, no asking for clemency or a pardon, nothing.

The only unique thing about this proposal is that it restricts transfer. A plea down to LWOP from death accomplishes everything else this offer does.

[Iron-Hampster]

At 7/29/11 08:57 PM, Camarohusky wrote:

At 7/28/11 11:46 PM, Korriken wrote:

At 7/28/11 09:17 PM, Camarohusky wrote: Sounds like a standard plea down to me.

The only unique thing about this proposal is that it restricts transfer. A plea down to LWOP from death accomplishes everything else this offer does.

aye, but now you get to make money off their ass.

[AcetheSuperVillain]

At 7/29/11 11:29 AM, J-Rex wrote: If i killed someone I'd rather spend my life on a farm then get killed a few days after committing the crime. I think if a murderer was given this option or death he would gladly go for the farm option. So I think this is a good idea that should be taken up by other states.

If only death penalty sentences were carried out in a few days. It actually takes more like decades, full of legal proceedings, which is why it usually costs more to execute someone than to send them to jail for life. That's why this "turn a profit thing" sounds pretty good.

[Camarohusky]

At 7/29/11 09:37 PM, Iron-Hampster wrote: aye, but now you get to make money off their ass.

A lot of prisons have money making sections. The biggest thing is that many prisoners are not allowed to work in these areas because they are too misbehaved.

[bigredone]

I believe having prisoners working on a farm for there whole life would harm more than help. It costs a hell of alot of money to sustain a single person, let alone dozens. the death penalty, though it might seem unjust to some, is in technically a better option. Dont you think it would be worse to live out the rest of your life at a farm. Id try to break out or kill myself. Anything but be stuck there,so il say the prisoner/slave sentence is a waste.