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Yeah... you're right... i couldn't spot the things i didn't like and even that you're right because your back view fits your front view....
As for the game, as you said, we will chose just one way... The Scan Visor or The Sage telling her or She discovers The Traitors Plan by reading them....
But man, in the metroid games to read something there you gotta scan... So lets wait for the other members choice.
I still gotta spot other things on the Suit, but i cant do it right now, when i come back from english school i will do that.

Hello again guys.

Well it's nice to see that the back view of the suit has started to be done. I feel that Raz got the back view alright, but to be honest, DW some of your changes (in the helmet) don't really make sense as Raz pointed it out. You made it larger and shorter, which I think that didn't turn out so well.

I'm still waiting for Joe's work so I can start doing some sketches.

Well what I had in mind was just Samus walking into a room and in the background is like a hologram showing the meteor and the planet, with like trajectory details on it, just so keen-eyed fans spot it and work it out.

Ok DW, dont really get that complete U-turn you just made, but whatever.. so are you saying my version is ok until you find something you want changing? And hey leo, cheers, thanks a lot. And if you message Joe Im sure he'll send you his WIPs.

Yeah... but man thats what i was talking about ... a thing like a hologram.... but in the original games there are some parts with holograms with these sketches( plans or maps) so the player can scan it and read more about... so, do you want the things to be scaned or just seen ? yeah... about the helmet i changed to be like the original ones Leo, and i didn't watch out for Raziels design... that was my fault lol ... but i still have some ideas and i want to show it to Raziel.

At 10/1/11 10:43 AM, Raziel236 wrote: And if you message Joe Im sure he'll send you his WIPs.

He already showed some of his work in the topic, I don't think there's a need to PM him.
Also no problem.

Here is my last edit on the Suit's back view: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=76TQQ06E
i only didn't edit the feet... but it needs to be redone. tell me what you thing about it...

At 10/1/11 01:35 PM, leocartoon1 wrote:

At 10/1/11 10:43 AM, Raziel236 wrote: And if you message Joe Im sure he'll send you his WIPs.

He already showed some of his work in the topic, I don't think there's a need to PM him.
Also no problem.

Here's the last update I messaged DW. We've been talking about a couple things such as a bigger glow, bigger helmet, no more cuff around the neck, and small things of the sort. So the end product will be a little different than this.

how bout instead of scanning the player can walk by a cpu or hologram or something and press a button to acess it. and then a menu screen or whatever pops up showing the player whats on the cpu.
but they don't tell the player everything only some things. and when samus speaks with the sage he tells her about the traitor in cutscene and it shows the traitor using......something to launch the phazon meteor into tallon IV and they see it crash into the planet.

@DW, that edit you have done looks fine, and after a few tweaks I'll send it you. Nice one. But can you use the newgrounds dumping grounds to link stuff instead of megaupload? It would be much better. I was told how to use it a couple of pages back..

@Joe, if you want my opinion, the helmet needs to be slightly wider, and the black strip on the neck be completely removed and the helmet moved down, coz at the moment her neck looks too long. I like that though nice work.

Well I would just have her walking past it, so only eagle-eyed fans spot it and work it out. I think thats cooler. With our story, clever fans could guess it even from seeing nothing. Seen as how its not an essential part of the plot and it links to something from an existing metroid game, I think we should save scanning (even though its stupid) for other things.

Oh Ok, the scaning feature can also be used for many things such as scan monsters to learn more about them, from where they come and their life, there is the case of some bosses that you must scan to know how to beat it... they dont exactly say what to do but they give a Hint, just an example... on Metroid Prime 3 you will face Omega Ridley then when you scan it the scans say " the creature is now powered with phazon but his cardiac region is exposed due to hurts in a recent battle" ... in fact i like that, what do you think about that ?

At 10/2/11 12:56 PM, DarkWalkerUnleashed wrote: Oh Ok, the scaning feature can also be used for many things such as scan monsters to learn more about them, from where they come and their life, there is the case of some bosses that you must scan to know how to beat it... they dont exactly say what to do but they give a Hint, just an example... on Metroid Prime 3 you will face Omega Ridley then when you scan it the scans say " the creature is now powered with phazon but his cardiac region is exposed due to hurts in a recent battle" ... in fact i like that, what do you think about that ?

Yeh I like the idea of getting info on enemies. Im not too keen on boss weakpoints, especially ones which are obvious/told to the player. Its so cliched, unrealistic and easy sometimes. At least if enemies have weakpoints, let players use at least a tiny bit of intelligence to work it out..

btw DW, if you look at my favourite audio, you will see a piece called "Welcome to Kraids". As you can probably tell its a metroid based piece of music, perfect for MU in my opinion. And also if you just type the word "Metroid" into the audio portal search, you get loads of results. This is a good way to get music as its free and has no copyright, only needing for you to give credit to the creator. (For most)

Also, can I make a news post on my profile about MU? Again I wont give away much about it if I do. And should I put anything in it? Like are you looking for more people for the team or what?

Ok, its decided, we are going to use the scans to get info about the enemies(not about the weak spots of the bosses)... and i will give a look at the materials... and also We have two great musicians man, and they already did some good job i will count with them to make exclusive audio for MU ... but i will do what you asked.
Also... yeah you can do that, and yeah i want more people on the team, but i need more people to work in the same subject as you, designers... to make and create new monsters and scenario... and i need FX Sound effects makers too. I need a new Co-Programer as our last Co-Programer just disappeared all of a sudden without teeling nothing .-. but if you put it on your profile you must explain that i just need the Co-Programer as a consulter to help me on anything that i may not be able to program... and yeah they can make sugestions on the game... of course. xP

I worked on the game today... i see that i will have a lot of programing to do with this new camera and Switch rooms style... i was working on how the enemies would appear and now each room that i make will recquire a lot of programing, as many doors more codes and as many enemies much more codes 'o' .....A lot of codes... OMFG!

Cool. Right.. Well ive put the post on my profile, if you want to check it out, and give it a cheeky comment. ;) Also it might help the project if everyone from the team went on the engine you uploaded and rated it 5 out of 5. But an update engine would be very cool if you could soon.. I will also put a video on my youtube channel.. cool.

I already tried to put the name of the members of the team as Co-Authors there but it seems that you can only put it when you put the game by the first time there.... Also when this topic was in the page 3 i planed to make a release... but only a release to the members to know wh at progress i am making on the engine of the game because i need the Suits to make a serius release on the Flash Portal again... and if i put a demo there again the people will call me a jerk there as i was already told that people on newgrounds dislikes demos and games without an end... so i couldn't just put a release like that there... but i agree with you Raz i want to put a release there on the flash portal as soon as possible but i need at least the first mini boss the suits and the new backgrounds and scenario style, so we gotta make much more to make a release like that... it would be a demo but it would also be a nice one and people wouldn't get mad at our team... i asked Patt ( from the Spritas) to create some backgrounds and tiles with better resolution but he is also busy with his own projects and school... i would ask Joe to do that but he is also working on the Suit. We cannot put a video on youtube of our game right now, if you look for metroid Fangames videos there you will see that we cant because we aren't with the game in the same level as their game and also because we must show what out game has to offer, new design, new gameplay and we gotta work on the effects too... once we make the release on the flash portal we can make the first Trailer of out game on youtube... and when we stay near to finish it we will make another trailer giving some features of the story of the game and features of the gameplay. if you guys wants an example of that you can see on the blog of the most famous fangame of metroid, AM2R, they did exactly what i told you guys... they still didn't release their game since... they started it which i think that was in the middle of 2009... so our game will take some time to be released, i dont think we will take so much time as them but it will take more than an year. So... here is the link to their blog: http://metroid2remake.blogspot.com/
You guys can also play their demo xD.

Right. Well from the sounds of it newgrounds will frown upon any sort of demo, so best just to leave it until we finish the whole thing. But it would be cool if you could upload to the dumping grounds, that way the team could still see how it is going and try it out. Haha youtubes not like a forum - You cant not do anything. (Well, most things) No-one cares if you upload something that's not as developed as someone elses.. I only meant a video which basically says the same as the post on my profile anyway.. Yeh maybe we could make a section of the game "perfect", and release that as a demo for everyone to play (not uploaded on newgrounds). Hopefully that would get more interest for the full thing.

btw Im a bit busy atm so the back view of the suit will take some time..

Ok, and yeah... we could do that, the video and the demo that is not uploaded on newgrounds... I will try to put it on the dumping grounds, but i prefer to put it on megaupload because i have an account there and the file is not erased. Once in a while i make backups of the FLA file of the project and upload there just for same xD

Hey Raz, i gave a look at that music you said and... that music cannot be placed on the game, not that the music is bad but this one is 8-bit style music and the music we are going to use on the game is modern ones... in back posts here on the topic i discussed this concept with the musicians, Connor and DWombat, in fact the music style of our game will be in the same quality of the Metroid Prime Series's Music.

Just to notify all you guys... when Joe finish the Suit i will transform all the frames of the cycles in a lower resolution one to fit with Raziel's Suit so the Suits wont look so different, i already discussed it with Joe, probably i will have to reduct its resolution in 50%...

hey dw, i've been busy so i haven't had time to work on baby korshak. I should have time tonight though.

btw I was just thinking. like maybe the boss battles could be done other m style.

What do you mean by... other M style ? are you refering yourself to the "mini-games" that are like a movie ? those that are like in the God Of War series ? the monster attacks you and then a session of buttons appears on the Screen for you to press in the right moment and if you dont the mini-movie stops ?

They are called QTEs - Quick Time Events. And worst idea ever.

Diochi, were you refering to that QTEs ? I dont like that idea man, i agree with Raz, and that would recquire a lot more of codes and time.

Hey guys i am working the the camera engine, so how KenjiTake didnt show me a scenario i took one from the Super Metroid Original Series(Crateria) to improve my skills on this engine and improve the engine, so when i finish i will show you guys and i want you to tell me where to change if its something not good... like speed of the camera, where the camera starts to move, how much the camera must move in all the cases... and tell me if you liked xD.

Pointless update, cannons done. It went pretty fast, actually. Just have to color it in and shade it. Then onto the left arm, then legs. Then the front view will be done.

Ok Joe, lol... those cameras makes me lose a lot of time man when i could be working on a new skill for samus... she only have half of the skills on our game yet. But even that i would need the suits to do that... like the Graple Lasso and the Space Jump, But i think i will probably make the missiles before it.

At 10/6/11 04:30 PM, DarkWalkerUnleashed wrote: Ok Joe, lol... those cameras makes me lose a lot of time man when i could be working on a new skill for samus... she only have half of the skills on our game yet. But even that i would need the suits to do that... like the Graple Lasso and the Space Jump, But i think i will probably make the missiles before it.

Why do you need them for that? Couldn't you put just about anything inside a movie clip, then replace the content inside with the finished suit?

Why do you need them for that? Couldn't you put just about anything inside a movie clip, then replace the content inside with the finished suit?

What the hell are you talking about?? Movie clip?.....

OK DW asked me to make some beam explosions and animate a boss. The boss is secret!! Here is a link to the beam blasts. If you want me to improve let me know and PM me

BlackMist, I didn't ask you to do any boss lol... (i think) .
Joe, i need them because i have to test the engine everytime and also because it is not always that i make a code and it works in time... sometimes i have to re-do all the code U_U

Cool beans blackmist. And hey, we havent met.. I like the first two explosions but not the 3rd, also, I like the small green and blue beam effects. Nice one.