(Noun) Fallacy:
1. a deceptive, misleading, or false notion, belief, etc.: That the world is flat was at one time a popular fallacy.
2. a misleading or unsound argument.
3. deceptive, misleading, or false nature; erroneousness.
I've looked up The white male privlege 'checklist'. And it's absolutely ridiculous.
I can't debunk them all here(not enough space), but to paraphrase:
Some of them are just downright incorrect, like this one:
1. My odds of being hired for a job, when competing against female applicants, are probably skewed in my favor. The more prestigious the job, the larger the odds are skewed.
This one is whole-heartedly incorrect. All we need to do is look up Affermitive Action to see that companies are obligated to higher minorities, and women based solely on their genetic code, while white men have no such luxury.
6. If I do the same task as a woman, and if the measurement is at all subjective, chances are people will think I did a better job.
And this one, is completely, and utterly false. I've never once seen this happen.
7. If I'm a teen or adult, and if I can stay out of prison, my odds of being raped are relatively low.
The odds of a woman being raped are relatively low also.
This guy rips to shreds the notion of 'white male privlege'
xhttp://www.aswedeingermany.de/60Misc/50 Privilege.html
The average run-of-the-mil white male, isn't privleged beyond anyone else in this society.
Now these idiots have even gone as far to say that there is a such things as black male privlege. I'm stereotyped as a violent, stupid, fried chicken loving criminal. I have no privlege.
Let's look at it though:
I'll just pick a random few.
22. In general, I prefer being involved with younger women socially and sexually
My response: In general, women prefer to be involved with older men. So essentially, he's blaming something entirely on black men, that is set up by black women aswell. Furthermore, how is that a 'privlege'? The mangina is strong with this one.
23. In general, the more sexual partners that I have the more stature I receive among my peers.
And this double standard is set up by women aswell. Not to mention that he's completely silent about the double standard of men generally being scorned if they hit a woman, while as when a woman hits a man people say: "You, go girl."
35. I can wear a shirt that others and I commonly refer to as a "wife beater" and never have the language challenged
He actually things that the shirt literally refers to wife beating. Seriously, how stupid is this guy?
37. Many of my favorite genres of films, such as martial arts, are based on violence.
So are alot of other peoples. And how is this a pirvlege exactly?
39. I have the privilege to define black women as having "an attitude" without referencing the range of attitudes that black women have.
40. I have the privilege of defining black women's attitudes without defining my attitudes as a black man.
There is absolutely no such evidence of either of these two notions. Not to mention that black women run around saying phrases like: "N*****s ain't shit."
34. I can hear and use language bitches and hoes that demean women, with virtually no opposition from men.
This one is very subjective. I called my sister a "Stupid bitch.", and my brother gave me this little speech about "Respecting women." Not to mention that women can run around telling men to "Man UP!", and use other shaming language to get men to do what they want.
42. I have the privilege of believing that a woman cannot raise a son to be a man
Women, actually generally can't raise a son to be a man. Only men know, and can define the masculine. A woman instructing a male how to be a male, is like a fish telling a crab how to be a crab.
I'm gonna stop right there.
In short male "privleges" fall into the following categories:
1. They're completely incorrect.
2. They're biased. They highlight an aspect where men have an advantage, while remaining completely silent of where women have an equal advantage. AKA: Cherry picking.
3. Placing the blame solely on men, for something that mostly women do/set-up, or something that both genders do.
4. Things that shouldn't even be considered a privlege.
In short, a male 'privlege' checklist is just biased, shoddy, junk research to paint men as always having it better than women in all aspects of life.
I'm going to show you the ratio of male-female suicide rates. Now suicide rates indicate the way in which a specific demographic are being treated.
Men have always had a higher suicide rate than women.
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At 7/14/11 02:49 PM, PeterM wrote: TL;DR.
WTF are you on about Son?
Well, don't be mean. :(
I worked really hard on that OP.
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It's spelled "privilege". And what the hell is this chip on your shoulder about feminists?
The majority of the Newgrounds userbase is male, especially the portion currently using the BBS, and every single argument you have made about female-male relations in society, or ever will make, has already been made. You're bitching to a bunch of people who don't care beyond detached interest.
Just go pitch that to, oh I don't know, the feminists on the internet instead of the younger male demographic?
dude why the fuck do you keep making these types of threads? nobody here cares.
At 7/14/11 02:55 PM, Lintire wrote: It's spelled "privilege". And what the hell is this chip on your shoulder about feminists?
The majority of the Newgrounds userbase is male, especially the portion currently using the BBS, and every single argument you have made about female-male relations in society, or ever will make, has already been made. You're bitching to a bunch of people who don't care beyond detached interest.
Just go pitch that to, oh I don't know, the feminists on the internet instead of the younger male demographic?
I speleed 'privilege' wrong. My bad. IF you think that this thread is stupid, and or pointless, then why post in it.
Not to mention that I didn't even mention feminism anywhere in this thread.
You did.
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At 7/14/11 02:57 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: dude why the fuck do you keep making these types of threads? nobody here cares.
Ridiculous behavior.
You don't like my threads, and obviously wish that they would fade into oblivion.
If so, then why'd you just post in my thread? IF you would of never of posted anything, my thread would be one step closer to dying.
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At 7/14/11 02:51 PM, ModernPatriot wrote:
I worked really hard on that OP.
I'm in no doubt that you worked hard on it, there's a LOT of OC in there and a lot of thought has gone into it.
But why are you linking suicide rates to being male or being female??
At 7/14/11 02:59 PM, ModernPatriot wrote:At 7/14/11 02:57 PM, Tony-DarkGrave wrote: dude why the fuck do you keep making these types of threads? nobody here cares.Ridiculous behavior.
You don't like my threads, and obviously wish that they would fade into oblivion.
no some of these deep threads belong in Here
At 7/14/11 02:57 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: I speleed 'privilege' wrong.
What an original way to respond! Har-har.
My bad. IF you think that this thread is stupid, and or pointless, then why post in it.
Not to mention that I didn't even mention feminism anywhere in this thread.
You did.
No. You didn't. Although I have it under strict confidence that the ones who ever cared about male privileges in society were feminists. Feel free to correct me on that, because I sure as hell don't give a shit.
And that "why post" attitude is overused to the point of pathetic. I'm posting in this thread to inform you that while you may have spent a lot of time on that argument, you're pitching it to the wrong people. no-one here will care. Go pitch it somewhere else, instead of letting it go to waste.
And the misspelling just really blared out at me considering that you managed to write a wall of text are managed to misspell one of your key words every single time. Just go post it somewhere else, it's not a bad post.
Even the "Politics" forum would do.
At 7/14/11 02:48 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: This one is whole-heartedly incorrect. All we need to do is look up Affermitive Action to see that companies are obligated to higher minorities, and women based solely on their genetic code, while white men have no such luxury.
Let's completely not understand the hiring process and that affirmative action only kicks in with near identical candidates, or a severely disproportional amount of any single race or gender. As a white man, I can tell you we have it fucking easy compared to others.
And this one, is completely, and utterly false. I've never once seen this happen.
That's because you probably always do a shitty job. I have seen it happen many times. With labor jobs, the tall/big man is nearly always assumed to have done a better job.
The odds of a woman being raped are relatively low also.
That's why 9 out of 10 rape victims are female right?
The average run-of-the-mil white male, isn't privleged beyond anyone else in this society.
Except for, you know, everybody who isn't a middle class male (Barring anyone born into upper classes)
Now these idiots have even gone as far to say that there is a such things as black male privlege. I'm stereotyped as a violent, stupid, fried chicken loving criminal. I have no privlege.
My response: In general, women prefer to be involved with older men. So essentially, he's blaming something entirely on black men, that is set up by black women aswell. Furthermore, how is that a 'privlege'? The mangina is strong with this one.
Odd that you're talking about mangina.
And this double standard is set up by women aswell. Not to mention that he's completely silent about the double standard of men generally being scorned if they hit a woman, while as when a woman hits a man people say: "You, go girl."
You have to look at it from a physical standpoint. Men are a lot fucking stronger then women. Shit, the girls record bench press at my school was pretty much the average males bench, barring the outliers. That, and there's all of the social stigma surrounding the whole fact that men are treated as superior in just about every aspect of their lives.
He actually things that the shirt literally refers to wife beating. Seriously, how stupid is this guy?
Didn't the term come from the stereotypical man who would wear one, specifically the aggressive white trailer trash drinking some burr?
This one is very subjective. I called my sister a "Stupid bitch.", and my brother gave me this little speech about "Respecting women." Not to mention that women can run around telling men to "Man UP!", and use other shaming language to get men to do what they want.
Fucking connotations how do they work?
Women, actually generally can't raise a son to be a man. Only men know, and can define the masculine. A woman instructing a male how to be a male, is like a fish telling a crab how to be a crab.
You're oversimplifying family dynamics very much. There are a shit ton of people who grew up without fathers who are more man then you ever will be.
1. They're completely incorrect.
Eh, not really, you just like bitching about women.
2. They're biased. They highlight an aspect where men have an advantage, while remaining completely silent of where women have an equal advantage. AKA: Cherry picking.
Women do not have anywhere near as equal advantage as you make it out to be. From stereotyping from birth about what they're supposed to be like and then there's the physical aspect of things.
3. Placing the blame solely on men, for something that mostly women do/set-up, or something that both genders do.
Pretty much everything is male dominated. Fault mostly lies on us, sorry bro.
4. Things that shouldn't even be considered a privlege.
Some of them were retarded, but some had excellent points.
In short, a male 'privlege' checklist is just biased, shoddy, junk research to paint men as always having it better than women in all aspects of life.
Most aspects we do have it better. If you feel that affirmative action and other bullshit is keeping you down, you're just a pussy who doesn't have drive. Stop having a victim mentality.
I'm going to show you the ratio of male-female suicide rates. Now suicide rates indicate the way in which a specific demographic are being treated.
Men have always had a higher suicide rate than women.
So? Look at a graph about the pay discrepancies, you know, something that's actually indicative of discrimination.
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At 7/14/11 03:07 PM, RacistBassist wrote: Let's completely not understand the hiring process and that affirmative action only kicks in with near identical candidates, or a severely disproportional amount of any single race or gender. As a white man, I can tell you we have it fucking easy compared to others.
That's because you probably always do a shitty job. I have seen it happen many times. With labor jobs, the tall/big man is nearly always assumed to have done a better job.
That's why 9 out of 10 rape victims are female right?
Except for, you know, everybody who isn't a middle class male (Barring anyone born into upper classes)
You have to look at it from a physical standpoint. Men are a lot fucking stronger then women. Shit, the girls record bench press at my school was pretty much the average males bench, barring the outliers. That, and there's all of the social stigma surrounding the whole fact that men are treated as superior in just about every aspect of their lives.
Didn't the term come from the stereotypical man who would wear one, specifically the aggressive white trailer trash drinking some burr?
Women do not have anywhere near as equal advantage as you make it out to be. From stereotyping from birth about what they're supposed to be like and then there's the physical aspect of things.
Pretty much everything is male dominated. Fault mostly lies on us, sorry bro.
Some of them were retarded, but some had excellent points.
Most aspects we do have it better. If you feel that affirmative action and other bullshit is keeping you down, you're just a pussy who doesn't have drive. Stop having a victim mentality.
So? Look at a graph about the pay discrepancies, you know, something that's actually indicative of discrimination.
RacistBassist, I've taken out everything of yours that is trolling.
Let's begin.
- Concerning the 9 out of 10 rape victims as being women... That's completely incorrect. And even if it were so. The chances of anyone being raped are low.
- Concerning Affirmitive Action, I'm a black man so I'm included in Affirmitive Action, what do you think of this?
http://rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com/201 0/12/women-declare-victory-over-men.html
That is due to racist, and sexist legislation like Affirmitive action. Which is in direct violation of the civil rights act of 1964.
Also, I suggest that you read this: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Pu blic/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp
- The wage gap has been correctly criticised over, and over again. Not to mention that if women earned more than men, we'd all go extinct.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpQsLxUwX cY&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscKyvgw-
Y4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61tbL3yD_
AI&feature=relmfu
Also, what do you think of this?
What really matters isn't who makes the money, it's who spending it.
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At 7/14/11 03:31 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: RacistBassist, I've taken out everything of yours that is trolling.
You're one to talk about trolling. Every other day you bitch about males being oppressed in some way.
Let's begin.
- Concerning the 9 out of 10 rape victims as being women... That's completely incorrect. And even if it were so. The chances of anyone being raped are low.
http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbNam e=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361
1/10 are men. Guess what the other 9/10 are?
- Concerning Affirmitive Action, I'm a black man so I'm included in Affirmitive Action, what do you think of this?
http://rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com/201 0/12/women-declare-victory-over-men.html
That is due to racist, and sexist legislation like Affirmitive action. Which is in direct violation of the civil rights act of 1964.
You do realize that the whole point of affirmative is to make up for the HUGE disparity of white males being employed compared to everywhere else? The only time affirmative action takes place is when a group is underrepresented compared to others. You just have a victim mentality.
Also, I suggest that you read this: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Pu blic/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.asp
Oh, an opinion piece bitching about the stimulus going towards service based areas and not industrial.
- The wage gap has been correctly criticised over, and over again. Not to mention that if women earned more than men, we'd all go extinct.
The fuck? My brain just shut off from confusion for two seconds after reading such a retarded statement. That makes absolutely zero sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpQsLxUwX cY&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscKyvgw-
Y4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61tbL3yD_
AI&feature=relmfu
Also, what do you think of this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1 024&bih=552&q=female%20spending%20power&
gbv=2&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=282l2813l0l2907l21l 18l0l10l0l0l235l1125l1.5.2l8&ie=UTF-8&sa =N&tab=iw
What really matters isn't who makes the money, it's who spending it.
What I think matters the most is that cold hard numbers don't lie, men are making more money on the dollar then women do. Now quit your bitching and work harder if you want the job. There's absolutely zero problem giving a job to the person who is underrepresented instead of the person who bitches and moans about being a white male and how everyone else has it easy.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%
93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_
States
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OP please research Bakke v California because you don't have the slightest fucking clue how affirmative action works. It isn't "Oh shit this white male is incredibly qualified for the position but look this under qualified black man applied too better give him the job."
Also do you understand that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 basically created modern affirmative action you fucking idiot? How can affirmative action violate the act that helped establish it? That's the equivalent of saying that upholding free speech violates the first amendment.
Also your sources are shit. How the fuck is a blog that starts with "Here are the largest growing jobs projected by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics to the year 2016. ALL of them are WOMEN'S JOBS" a reputable source??? Lmao yep yep no clear bias here hurr durr.
Women already get more than men and they still want more, then they have the gall to label it as equality. Just another reason to hate women.
At 7/14/11 03:56 PM, RacistBassist wrote:At 7/14/11 03:31 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: RacistBassist, I've taken out everything of yours that is trolling.You're one to talk about trolling. Every other day you bitch about males being oppressed in some way.
Let's begin.http://www.ncvc.org/ncvc/main.aspx?dbNam e=DocumentViewer&DocumentID=32361
- Concerning the 9 out of 10 rape victims as being women... That's completely incorrect. And even if it were so. The chances of anyone being raped are low.
1/10 are men. Guess what the other 9/10 are?
- Concerning Affirmitive Action, I'm a black man so I'm included in Affirmitive Action, what do you think of this?You do realize that the whole point of affirmative is to make up for the HUGE disparity of white males being employed compared to everywhere else? The only time affirmative action takes place is when a group is underrepresented compared to others. You just have a victim mentality.
http://rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com/201 0/12/women-declare-victory-over-men.html
That is due to racist, and sexist legislation like Affirmitive action. Which is in direct violation of the civil rights act of 1964.
Also, I suggest that you read this: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Pu blic/Articles/000/000/016/659dkrod.aspOh, an opinion piece bitching about the stimulus going towards service based areas and not industrial.
- The wage gap has been correctly criticised over, and over again. Not to mention that if women earned more than men, we'd all go extinct.The fuck? My brain just shut off from confusion for two seconds after reading such a retarded statement. That makes absolutely zero sense.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpQsLxUwX cY&feature=channel_video_titleWhat I think matters the most is that cold hard numbers don't lie, men are making more money on the dollar then women do. Now quit your bitching and work harder if you want the job. There's absolutely zero problem giving a job to the person who is underrepresented instead of the person who bitches and moans about being a white male and how everyone else has it easy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RscKyvgw-
Y4&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=61tbL3yD_
AI&feature=relmfu
Also, what do you think of this?
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&biw=1 024&bih=552&q=female%20spending%20power&
gbv=2&gs_sm=e&gs_upl=282l2813l0l2907l21l 18l0l10l0l0l235l1125l1.5.2l8&ie=UTF-8&sa =N&tab=iw
What really matters isn't who makes the money, it's who spending it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Male%E2%80%
93female_income_disparity_in_the_United_
States
I don't think you understand many of the things that I've said. MY mistake. Concerning what I said about the wage gap, it is necessary for humans to exist. IF women earned more money than men, then we'd all go extinct. I don't want to get into that now, but I'll make a thread about it in a few days.
Also, concerning affirmitive action, I'm a black male, so I'm considered a protected class.
You attempt to dismiss the graphs, videos, facts, and pictures that I've just shown, please don't. The wage gap is a myth, and it is not due to discrimination, if you look into it, you'd realize that the wage gap doesn't take into consideration the amount of hours worked, or type of jobs.
Not to mention that if companies were genuinely paying women less money than they were to men for the same job, then by, and large only women would have jobs. Companies will always higher an employee that they can pay less for the same amount of work. Just look at outsourcing.
When I was in highschool, I got a job at McDonalds. I was hired alont-side a woman. We both made 7.25.
Also, if you would of read that last article, you'd realize that a "special interest" group divered the stimulist package towards women's jobs, despite 80% of all jobs lost in the recession, have been to men's jobs.
Also look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWAZn-Gx Q8&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSra__nQD VU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXQLFbf3D Xs&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct6gO16Cy ic&feature=relmfu
And define: "Under-represented."
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At 7/14/11 04:09 PM, GiantDouche wrote: OP please research Bakke v California because you don't have the slightest fucking clue how affirmative action works. It isn't "Oh shit this white male is incredibly qualified for the position but look this under qualified black man applied too better give him the job."
Also do you understand that the Civil Rights Act of 1964 basically created modern affirmative action you fucking idiot? How can affirmative action violate the act that helped establish it? That's the equivalent of saying that upholding free speech violates the first amendment.
Also your sources are shit. How the fuck is a blog that starts with "Here are the largest growing jobs projected by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics to the year 2016. ALL of them are WOMEN'S JOBS" a reputable source??? Lmao yep yep no clear bias here hurr durr.
LOL!
You sincerely have earned your username.
Also, why're you attacking the resources instead of attacking the statements.
IF you would of actually of watched the video you would realize that it isn't all bullshit.
Obamas stimulus package was diverted to women's jobs, despite 80% of all jobs lost in the recession being to men's jobs.
Also, what do you think of this?
http://rebukingfeminism.blogspot.com/200 9/07/destroy-white-males.html
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At 7/14/11 04:25 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: LOL!
You sincerely have earned your username.
Also, why're you attacking the resources instead of attacking the statements.
What. You're joking right? If a source is unreliable, and that's what you use to back up your claim, then the claim is unreliable.
IF you would of actually of watched the video you would realize that it isn't all bullshit.
If most of you is covered in shit, you're still covered in shit.
Obamas stimulus package was diverted to women's jobs, despite 80% of all jobs lost in the recession being to men's jobs.
ITT: The entire stimulus was dedicated to womens jobs.
At 7/14/11 04:18 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: I don't think you understand many of the things that I've said. MY mistake. Concerning what I said about the wage gap, it is necessary for humans to exist. IF women earned more money than men, then we'd all go extinct. I don't want to get into that now, but I'll make a thread about it in a few days.
That makes no fucking sense, at all. How would we possibly go extinct? The only way that would be possible if women were the only ones allowed to raise kids, and if having a good job meant their vagina shut off.
Also, concerning affirmitive action, I'm a black male, so I'm considered a protected class.
Sure you are. You bitch about how tough white males have it an awful lot.
You attempt to dismiss the graphs, videos, facts, and pictures that I've just shown, please don't. The wage gap is a myth, and it is not due to discrimination, if you look into it, you'd realize that the wage gap doesn't take into consideration the amount of hours worked, or type of jobs.
"The wage gap is a myth because the youtube video I posted said so, the hard numbers of the income disparity be damned." They have shown that women do make less then men, on a per hour basis. Types of jobs is another great point, some jobs are almost exclusive to men, although the inverse holds true, it just so happens the male exclusives get paid more. Unless you're a high class prostitute.
Not to mention that if companies were genuinely paying women less money than they were to men for the same job, then by, and large only women would have jobs. Companies will always higher an employee that they can pay less for the same amount of work. Just look at outsourcing.
Oh, that must be why construction companies will pay some of their unskilled workers $20+ an hour when the only requirement for most of their duties is be able to lift shift.
When I was in highschool, I got a job at McDonalds. I was hired alont-side a woman. We both made 7.25.
Ooh, you're using minimum wage at a McDonalds job. What's next, say that the discrimination doesn't exist at all because Wal-Mart has females working for the shit wages too?
Also, if you would of read that last article, you'd realize that a "special interest" group divered the stimulist package towards women's jobs, despite 80% of all jobs lost in the recession, have been to men's jobs.
Also look at this.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-EWAZn-Gx Q8&feature=channel_video_title
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSra__nQD VU&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iXQLFbf3D Xs&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ct6gO16Cy ic&feature=relmfu
Clearly youtube videos overwrites statistics.
And define: "Under-represented."
Say that an area has a roughly 50% female population, and does not require any fancy degrees or shit like that (Let's not even start on education bias) for a certain job. If it turns out that the number of males being hired far exceeds the number of females, then females would be underrepresented.
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ModernPatriot, I have noticed you absolutely despise women. What happened that made you like this? Never got a date or something?
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At 7/14/11 04:25 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: Obamas stimulus package was diverted to women's jobs
Right. I'm done.
At 7/14/11 02:48 PM, ModernPatriot wrote:
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Now these idiots have even gone as far to say that there is a such things as black male privlege. I'm stereotyped as a violent, stupid, fried chicken loving criminal. I have no privlege.
You really need to take a statistics class. Blacks are statistically more likely to be arrested, at least 60% of black males have had some form of legal trouble in their life. Blacks have a higher rate of committing violent crimes, etc. Even stereotypes have some truth to them.
God, epic tier troll
At 7/14/11 05:19 PM, E1EE7 wrote: You really need to take a statistics class. Blacks are statistically more likely to be arrested, at least 60% of black males have had some form of legal trouble in their life. Blacks have a higher rate of committing violent crimes, etc. Even stereotypes have some truth to them.
If you bring that up though, you can't forget that young black males are also more prone to committing crimes. A better example would be bringing up conviction rates.
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At 7/14/11 02:48 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: companies are obligated to higher minorities
Implying that minorities get higher-->stereotyping minorities as marijuana users-->this thread is racist and evil and I hate it.
Am I doing it right?
The simple fact is that some people will never be happy, no matter how good their lives are.
At 7/14/11 05:19 PM, E1EE7 wrote:At 7/14/11 02:48 PM, ModernPatriot wrote:...
You really need to take a statistics class. Blacks are statistically more likely to be arrested, at least 60% of black males have had some form of legal trouble in their life. Blacks have a higher rate of committing violent crimes, etc. Even stereotypes have some truth to them.
Now these idiots have even gone as far to say that there is a such things as black male privlege. I'm stereotyped as a violent, stupid, fried chicken loving criminal. I have no privlege.
I never said that they weren't. Although I really don't think that 60% of black males have experienced legal trouble. I'm sorry, but that just sounds crazy.
But as it is often portrayed in the media (due to rap music), that's what black people are stereotyped as.
Stupid violent thugs.
A man once described hell as a place where there is no reason. Thank you, Feminists, for dragging me into hell.
Yeah as far as privileges go white males can only really look forward to what their ancestors had and what their parents can provide. Beyond that there is no magical "white people do everything better" spell cast on everybody.
The OP is correct, as a white male, I have THE LEAST protection for my job and rights, cuz mine have been established for centuries, while minorities (not minorities for much longer) havn't had it for as long.
My friends Girlfriend gets jobs so easily. She doesn't have to call the place she's applying for and bug them for the job, she sometimes get's hired before she even fills out the application. She has a really great smile and pretty face. And it aint a coincidence that she gets hired in less than two days EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.
I walked into MICHAELS the other day, and noticed it's nothing but female workers. So I said to my latin friend, "Hey man I can't work the system cuz I'm a white male, but since your latin, you JUST MIGHT be able to go in there and say, "I notice you have no latino males employed atm.""
We had a laugh but the sad thing is that might just work. Even though there's no white males working there, I can't go in with a shred of hope and say, "I see there's a shortage of males here who are white."
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At 7/14/11 05:29 PM, DarkMatter wrote: Yeah as far as privileges go white males can only really look forward to what their ancestors had and what their parents can provide. Beyond that there is no magical "white people do everything better" spell cast on everybody.
Which is a whole lot, especially from an economic stand point. Unless you're poor, then quit your bitching, you had a lot easier time then others have.
The OP is correct, as a white male, I have THE LEAST protection for my job and rights, cuz mine have been established for centuries, while minorities (not minorities for much longer) havn't had it for as long.
As a white middle class male, I realize that I had the best chance for jobs (Which rights are you being denied?) besides upper class people.
My friends Girlfriend gets jobs so easily. She doesn't have to call the place she's applying for and bug them for the job, she sometimes get's hired before she even fills out the application. She has a really great smile and pretty face. And it aint a coincidence that she gets hired in less than two days EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME.
Being charismatic is a very useful tool to have when you're trying to get a job. She is obviously at least somewhat good at this. Make a good impression on people and your chances of getting hired are many times greater.
I walked into MICHAELS the other day, and noticed it's nothing but female workers. So I said to my latin friend, "Hey man I can't work the system cuz I'm a white male, but since your latin, you JUST MIGHT be able to go in there and say, "I notice you have no latino males employed atm.""
Or, you could walk in and apply too. Right now you're just speculating.
We had a laugh but the sad thing is that might just work. Even though there's no white males working there, I can't go in with a shred of hope and say, "I see there's a shortage of males here who are white."
You could however bring up the lack of male employees.
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@RacistBassist
I don't really expect you to understand(at this point) why the humans race would go extinct if women began to earn more. I'll explain it in another topic. Not this one. I understand your frustration.
The wage gap has been criticised by numerous people and sources.
Have a look for yourself:
Also I'm wondering why you even said this: "Oh, that must be why construction companies will pay some of their unskilled workers $20+ an hour when the only requirement for most of their duties is be able to lift shift."
IF you look at oursourcing you'll realize that companies(when given a chance) will almost always higher the workers that they can pay less.
You're being biased by saying "Women work for shit wages at walmart."
Define shit-wages. Please take into account that the employess in foreign walmarts make shit pay, and our worked liked animals.
Also take into account what I hope you've just researched concerning the wage gap myth.
And you attempt to descredit those videos because they're from youtube? Fine... Look at this:
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At 7/14/11 05:40 PM, Addict wrote: This isn't a part of the general interests relating to the newgrounds forums
Take this shit elsewhere
Alright, I'll make a thread that you guys can fap to.
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At 7/14/11 05:40 PM, ModernPatriot wrote: @RacistBassist
I don't really expect you to understand(at this point) why the humans race would go extinct if women began to earn more. I'll explain it in another topic. Not this one. I understand your frustration.
Go ahead and give a brief summing of why the human race would go extinct if we payed women the same wages
The wage gap has been criticised by numerous people and sources.
Ok? Numerous people and sources also believe that the holocaust never happened.
Have a look for yourself:
http://www.google.com/#sclient=psy&hl=en &source=hp&q=The+wage+gap+myth&aq=f&aqi=
g1&aql=&oq=&pbx=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.
&fp=d7186355f5788ce6&biw=1024&bih=552
Oh look, I can post a google search too
Also I'm wondering why you even said this: "Oh, that must be why construction companies will pay some of their unskilled workers $20+ an hour when the only requirement for most of their duties is be able to lift shift."
You were saying companies outsource and pay for cheap labor whenever possible. That is nowhere near true.
IF you look at oursourcing you'll realize that companies(when given a chance) will almost always higher the workers that they can pay less.
Except for, you know, their full time employees.
You're being biased by saying "Women work for shit wages at walmart."
Uh, no I am not. You can't use places that pay everyone shitty wages as your rebuttal to places paying men more.
Define shit-wages. Please take into account that the employess in foreign walmarts make shit pay, and our worked liked animals.
Well given that they aren't working full time and are getting, what, a little above minimum, I'd define that as a shit wage.
Also take into account what I hope you've just researched concerning the wage gap myth.
You mean pretty much every statistic that has looked into this has found that even on an hour worked basis that men make more then women for the same job?
And you attempt to descredit those videos because they're from youtube? Fine... Look at this:
http://www.manwomanmyth.com/video/misand ry/rape/
A site dedicated to "the war on men." Clearly everything from this website will be completely unbiased. What's next, a Huffpuff article to prove republicans are bad?
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I can't even yell at you because it's so hard to decipher the points you're trying to make.
Seriously, what do you have against women?
Its funny how all I'm hearing is "quit your bitching" and "what do you have against women?" and "people have had it a lot harder"
I'm not bitching I'm stating the obvious truth you all either have too much pride to admit or are too stupid to realize. None of this stuff is made up, so go flame the people who write the statistics.
It's not just women either, legally places like Colleges, Business, and the Government, have to by law employ a certain percentage of minorities, which is basically everything besides a white male. I'm not saying I disagree whole heartedly with this, however there are plenty of times when white males are excluded unfairly, and your response is, "suck it up, two wrongs make a right bitch".
Luckily I made it into college but what about the people who didn't even though they may have been more qualified than me? I could easily say, "too bad so sad." but I'm not willing to sacrifice my integrity and say it's alright as long as it doesn't happen to me, get over yourselves.
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