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At 10/2/11 11:38 PM, ZeroD314 wrote: He probably saw the light reflecting off of Walt's glasses.

Not so sure. He has a suspicious look on his face before the building where Walt is perched on even comes into view. I think he simply may have realized as he was walking to his car that if Jesse knows Brock was poisoned, and Walt isn't dead yet, then Jesse must be luring him away from Pollos Hermanos or the laundromat to get him out of his safe-zone. I'd imagine this little stunt is going to get Jesse in some deep shit.

Although, if Walt had thought about it, he could have simply called in an anonymous bomb threat to the hospital. If the authorities had found explosives in Gus' Volkswagen, the DEA would have jumped on that shit like white on rice as probable cause for a warrant. Assuming Walt was careful enough to not leave any trace evidence behind and avoid being captured on CCTV while planting the bomb, Gus would have an awfully hard time explaining the presence of an explosives device in his car to the cops, and it'd probably set off even more red flags at the DEA.

I mean it would be a really weird and probably boring way to try and resolve the plot, but it's what I would have done. Then again if I were Walt I would have died in season one.

Great episode with unbelievably high tension and superb acting and writng. I can't wait for the season finale, is gonna be epic.

At 10/3/11 07:41 AM, Famas wrote:

At 10/2/11 11:38 PM, ZeroD314 wrote: He probably saw the light reflecting off of Walt's glasses.

Not so sure. He has a suspicious look on his face before the building where Walt is perched on even comes into view. I think he simply may have realized as he was walking to his car that if Jesse knows Brock was poisoned, and Walt isn't dead yet, then Jesse must be luring him away from Pollos Hermanos or the laundromat to get him out of his safe-zone. I'd imagine this little stunt is going to get Jesse in some deep shit.

I thought about the glasses too, but your theory is good Famas. We already know that Gus is a freaking evil master mind and he's very cautious .

I just finished watching the last episode.
Holy crap, i can't wait to see what's going to happen next.

At 10/2/11 11:38 PM, ZeroD314 wrote: He probably saw the light reflecting off of Walt's glasses.

Vince Gilligan said in the podcast that Gus did not see Walt on the top of the building.

Inside episode 412.

Giancarlo Esposito confirms here that it was Jesse mentioning the poison that tipped him off.

I'm predicting that Gomez will keep poking around, and will meet an untimely end next episode.

Season finale, 10 minutes.

*stands in sea of badassery* yes... *raises arms as a tsunami wave of even more badassery approaches* YEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!
!!1

k, what now?

OOOOOOH WALLY

i loved walt using his neighbor as fucking BAIT.

hahah.

What I figured will be addressed next season is Gus's past in Chile. There was a reason why the Cartel didn't want to kill him, and Tio mentioned in a flashback in season 3 that he "knows people." So I'm guessing someone will come looking for Walt, besides Mike.

Plus, now that there is no Cartel, and no Gus, who will pick up the pieces of his empire? I'm guessing Walt and Jesse won't be able to settle back into a life of being on the right side of the law and will miss the rush and the money, and will start cooking again to take advantage of the empty market.

Also, we really need a scene between Jesse and Walt Jr, next season. I've been waiting the entire series for one, and after Walt called Jr by Jesse's name, it HAS to happen.

Walt, I hate to love you after that, but it was a necessary evil.

MMMMM EMMY PLEASE!

At 10/10/11 08:56 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote: i loved walt using his neighbor as fucking BAIT.

hahah.

Fun fact: that was Vince Gilligan's mother!

I wonder if the Teddy that landed in Walt's pool was in some way an indication of what was going to happen to Gus?

At 10/10/11 10:01 AM, Ryuzaki1 wrote:

At 10/10/11 08:56 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote: i loved walt using his neighbor as fucking BAIT.

hahah.

Fun fact: that was Vince Gilligan's mother!

I wonder if the Teddy that landed in Walt's pool was in some way an indication of what was going to happen to Gus?

i sense they thought up that up after the fact but it's still a nice detail.

At 10/10/11 10:08 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote:

At 10/10/11 10:01 AM, Ryuzaki1 wrote:

At 10/10/11 08:56 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote: i loved walt using his neighbor as fucking BAIT.

hahah.

Fun fact: that was Vince Gilligan's mother!

I wonder if the Teddy that landed in Walt's pool was in some way an indication of what was going to happen to Gus?

i sense they thought up that up after the fact but it's still a nice detail.

i never got the symbolism of the bear. i always thought it was just meant to be one of the toys walt got for his daughter, and then you're meant to think everyone in the house was killed by an explosion because of the cryptic openings. why does walt keep the eye?

Great season finale, I have not words to describe it. So far, Breaking Bad is the best tv show EVER.
I hope they don't ruin it next season, this season finale felt like a series ending. I can't wait to see what happens in season 5.javascript:BBSPost.Save();

Thought the season finale was okay. Sort of expected the twist to be that Walt poisoned Brock with something less dangerous and not fatal, but I was hoping I was wrong. Guess not.

The explosion was borderline retarded, and there were screenshots of Gus' half-blown off face circulating message boards before the episode aired. Seriously thought it was photoshopped because it looked so dumb. Two-face in my Breaking Bad? What the fuck.

Should have just had him die instantly after screaming when he realized what was going on, but over-the-top season finales have become a staple of the show. I guess I can at least be thankful that there wasn't a totally unbelievable plane crash right above Walt's swimming pool again?

At 10/10/11 02:40 PM, Rallard wrote: Should have just had him die instantly after screaming when he realized what was going on, but over-the-top season finales have become a staple of the show.

lmao yes when he just walked out i was like IS THIS GUY FUCKING SUPERMAN??????

i think for the next episode walt's true colors will unravel, and as he faces new foes the people around him will realize who he really is. his allies will either fear him or turn on him (jesse, saul) and his family will slowly figure out (because in every season he just has one slip up that clues people in, usually while drunk) which will ultimately lead to hank finding out he's heisenberg. credits.

alternately he could just die midway and the last 6 episodes will just be the words RIP walter white, white on black background. i would still watch that.

At 10/10/11 02:44 PM, Bees wrote: i think for the next episode

season*** mb

Guses death was totally unrealistic, half his fucking face was gone.

At 10/10/11 05:15 PM, Asperchu wrote: Guses death was totally unrealistic, half his fucking face was gone.

The scene was unrealistic but it was mind blowing. When he walked out of the room fixing his tie I said "why is he still alive???!!!" then when they show his face all blown up, I thought Gus was going to be like Two-Face in The Dark Knight, but when he collapsed I took a breath. It was the perfect dead for a great character.

At 10/10/11 05:51 PM, creepyboy wrote: It was the perfect death for a great character.

I know right :3

At 10/10/11 09:45 AM, boloneyman wrote: What I figured will be addressed next season is Gus's past in Chile. There was a reason why the Cartel didn't want to kill him, and Tio mentioned in a flashback in season 3 that he "knows people." So I'm guessing someone will come looking for Walt, besides Mike.

i'd much rather prefer it if they just left gus' character alone now. it makes him so much more ominous that we don't know his history or anything about from where he came from. in some cases, specifically this one, it's much more satisfying trying to theorise how gus came to be instead of some bullshit answer. that would also be one of my biggest gripes with the lost finale. >_>

i thought that was probably the best season finale i've ever seen. i would have enjoyed it much more if a certain television themed image board didn't somehow leak it a week ago. i would have also been perfectly happy if that was the entire series ending right there because themajorthings have been wrapped up and it would have been assumed that walt lived happily ever after with his crippled, breakfast loving son.

but hey a fifth season! i'm guessing it's just gonna be mike out for revenge as the creator vince gilligan has heavily implied this in some interview. and probably the dea gonna be up walt's ass. mostly because they are probably going to seize all of gus' shit like his computer with all of those security recordings of jesse and walt cooking meth.

either way, it will have to be about walt's downfall to either the police, big bad mike or his CANCUR. oh i cannot wait.

ALSO MOTHERFUCKING GUS IS A TERMINATOR WTF LOL. i wouldn't have minded if he did get up and straighten his tie but he did it so nonchalanty literally seconds after A MOTHERFUCKING BOMB BLEW UP HECTOR AND TYRUS. like there was no recovery time to actually stand up when hector's leg were shown blown off.

also also. EMMY'S HERE I COME

Gus was a man with a vision. Before he even met Walter he was working to revolutionize meth by using a real chemist to create a far superior product to the usual trailer park hillbilly stuff. The cartel laughed at his vision and killed his first chemist. This strengthened his resolve.

He then met Walter White, a highschool teacher with a magic meth formula who was in over his head. White had no criminal experience and relied on (Jesse) a drug addicted street level cook/dealer to move his product, all the while narrowly avoiding jail and death as they bumbled from one enterprise to another.

Gus offered Walter the deal of a lifetime. He gave him a super lab, he used his pre-existing distribution network to sell Walt's product, he paid him handsomely, and he provided a safe and stable working environment. All he wanted was to replace junkie Jesse with a real chemist (Gale) who could learn the ropes from Walt and eventually run the lab on his own. Knowing that Walter was terminaly ill, and in search of a long term investment, what else could he do?

Jesse apparently gives a hell of a blowjob, because Walter was willing to throw all of that away to keep him as a partner. So, under Walter's direction, Jesse murdered Gale and was able to return to the lab in his place. Gus took this setback in stride, and still in need of a long term investment began grooming Jesse to take over the lab.

Through all of this Gus is managing a criminal empire, and fighting and winning a war against the mexican cartel, while Walt's DEA brother inlaw (Hank) is on a personal vendetta against him. By replacing Walter with Jesse and allowing Walter to live, at Jesse's insistence, Gus was taking a huge risk and allowing the DEA's dream witness to survive. Still he allows Walter to live, but decides he's had enough of Hank. Who can blame him? Hank threatens everything he's worked for.

Instead of just laying low with his family and letting Hank go down, while allowing Jesse to be Gus' well paid chemist, and leaving Gus to run his criminal empire in peace, Walter poisons a child in an elaborate plot to kill the man who made him rich and spared his life by detonating an explosive in a retirement home.

Gus wasn't a good guy, but he wasn't any worse than Walter. For a drug kingpin he was remarkably understanding and professional.

tl;dr
When they introduce the character Mike he's running errands for Saul Goodman, a couple of episodes later he's the #2 man in Gus' criminal empire. What the hell?

At 10/10/11 10:01 AM, Ryuzaki1 wrote: I wonder if the Teddy that landed in Walt's pool was in some way an indication of what was going to happen to Gus?

Not sure about that, but there was this mask at Gales apartment.
http://i.imgur.com/Ye68f.png

At 10/10/11 08:37 PM, Me-Patch wrote: When they introduce the character Mike he's running errands for Saul Goodman, a couple of episodes later he's the #2 man in Gus' criminal empire. What the hell?

mike was already a well known person, he was PROBABLY already working for gus.

At 10/13/11 05:30 AM, psychicpebble wrote: Does anyone else agree this is the best show on T.V.?

And I hate television.

and i had to watch it week by week from the beginning.

im really tempted to do a bb collab. it probably wouldnt be as popular as a POKEMON collab, but i dont give a fuck, i love this show.

At 10/13/11 06:11 AM, psychicpebble wrote:

At 10/13/11 05:54 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote: im really tempted to do a bb collab. it probably wouldnt be as popular as a POKEMON collab, but i dont give a fuck, i love this show.

JEFF LET'S FUCKING DO IT

maybe ill get it rolling soon... get some ideas together for your own submission!

At 10/13/11 06:26 AM, psychicpebble wrote:

At 10/13/11 06:25 AM, JohnnyUtah wrote: maybe ill get it rolling soon... get some ideas together for your own submission!

I shall! I'm also urging Chris to watch it, so I'll see if I can get that cunt muffin to go along.

i feel like a religious fanatic trying to get people to watch it. haha.

At 10/13/11 05:30 AM, psychicpebble wrote: Does anyone else agree this is the best show on T.V.?

It's the second best, right below Dexter imo.

Walter is a terrible man! He killed Jesse's girlfriend, and poisoned his NEW girlfriend's son! Mike wont be happy about Gus, but when he finds these things out, he'll flip!