At 7/5/11 05:44 AM, BanglaBoy96 wrote:
At 7/1/11 03:01 PM, TomFulp wrote:
We are now BROADCASTING LIVE so come chat and watch stuff on NG with us!So rigged, The Outsider was by far the best Game of this Game Jam and it comes 2nd?!
AustinBreed came up with a list of his Game Jam winners and I broke the tie for third... HOPE IT'S OK.
Game Jam 5 Winners (1st-3rd, $150, $130, $100 Store Credit)
Please play them all!
Ohhhh! I see because the "great" Jazza entered it was rigged to come 1st, FAIL.
3rd place game wasn't anything good and the runner up was better.
Our Game was better than 3rd and 4th Place. But of course! Let the overrated people outshine us regulars, Give other people a chance. It was an unfair decision all in all!
Next time I think the Public should be allowed vote. For their favorites. Instead of the whole system being easily rigged.
Well, thank you for your support :P But I'll point out that games are not only judged by their score. I can't speak for Tom and Austin's personal set of criteria, but I imagine that a game must adhere to the theme (their chosen book), be fun to play, and be balanced like a game should. Originality is also a desirable trait in a Jam game. In terms of adhering to the theme, we excelled, and dare I say we did it even more than JAZZA's team did (although I must say I didn't play their game all the way through). While our game might have been fun, it's really just a point and click at heart. A simple one, too. JAZZA had us beat here. Finally, in terms of balance, I think we also had the upper hand here. I've heard a fair share of complaints about the Robinson Crusoe game saying it was too hard, or went too fast. Inversely, however, you can also blame us - many say The Outsider is easy. Which is mainly due to its brisk length. Finally, a point and click isn't the most original thing around, but JAZZA's team's game may have been a bit more so.
Now I did like your team's game, Bangla. However, as said before, you kinda missed the point of the theme, and I quote from the initial post the weekend of the Jam: "You must somehow adapt a published work of fiction/non-fiction into a game!" What you came up with is a game that takes three characters from different works, but doesn't adapt any of those stories into a story in the game. Also, it was not completely original - I've seen a fair share of run-until-you-die Flash games. To be fair, you did introduce the interesting mechanic of the books and transforming though.
Opening the voting up to the public would fix some problems and create others. For example, having only two people on the panel may create a bit of bias, even if they are both experienced game designers. You open it up to the public, and that problem goes away. Yet there is the new problem of having people that do not have that experience with games. Sure, some probably do, but I'll make a bold assumption that JAZZA's game would have gotten first anyway. Why? Probably because of the great opening cutscene and nothing else. Oh, and the fact that it's JAZZA Studios. The fact is, opening it to the public would only serve to intensify the problems that you want to be fixed. If you want proof, the recently released Best Of The Month results may be what you want.
As Aigis said, this was all for fun. I came into this competition not knowing how well I would do. I had one great success in the second game jam, but a complete and utter failure in the third. Plus, I didn't know who my team members would be, because I posted in the looking-for-members thread. I basically put it up to luck. I was - and am - completely awestruck at the results, and did not expect The Outsider to be this popular. I can't speak for Aigis and J-qb, but I imagine the same goes for them too. We got so much attention and licensing moolah out of it that, honestly, the results of this Jam don't matter to us quite as much as it does for others. But we're still glad that we got second, obviously. Placing was never the goal for me, but making a fun game in a single weekend with some great collaborators was. And we've succeeded in that.
So, if you want to complain and say your game was the best thing since sliced bread, you're really kinda missing the point of the Jam here, unless your Flash really is the best thing since sliced bread. Which is highly, HIGHLY unlikely, even outside a Game Jam.