Its not you, its me.

[IdentiC]

Facts before reading: I dont care what your political view points are, and i dont care much for a discussion about "The US vs EU". Living in the EU i can honestly say we're pretty much one and the same.

So yeah, been having these weird fits, usually at nights where i just browse thrue random forums, reading whats on peoples mind. I've been on the Lulsec twitter, weird Illuminati youtube videos, rap news, news casts, posts and it just keeps going on and on. I dont know, but im under the illusion that patterns are emerging. Im at the bottom of the food chain, and i just keep seing how stuf that happens all over the world suddenly appear in my neighbourhood. Economic crisis my ass, we're on the verge of a shift in the way the world works. The western world is pretty much beginning its journey deeper into mental enslavement and assimilation, whilst the middle east is conforming to our ways, thinking it will actually make a damned difference.

Im beginning to feel the urge to do something, and yet i just sit on my hands, doing nothing. I try to look inside and feel some sort of way to help "the good cause" and yet i find only violence. I want to take up arms and rush at an enemy that does not exist. No one seems to know what they are doing, not me, not you, not the governments.

We dumb us down willingly with games, booze drugs and MTV and anyone who dares judge us is a fucking asshole who should stop trolling the interwebs with their conspiratorical bullcrap.

We have been exploiting the world for so long now, with no end in sight. The imperialistic system we installed after the 30 year war in Europe is still very much alive, and whats worse we actually think it will make any sort of difference. As the world seems to be spinning faster and faster around us, men of power is using the same weapons we once used to keep us down. So we plot against eachother, we find enemies all around us, we kill, we rob we rape to what fucking end? Symptoms of a sick system is treated with hate violence and plain ignorance. Is this all that we are? Have we really not come further than this?

Help me out guys, is there anyone who can help me make sense of all this? Does it really matter if i got all my facts straight? Do you care if i have personal experience of a fucked up system, or do you just care about what you have seen and know? Ofcourse you cannot relate with a poor man, if you have not been poor yourself, but does that give you the right to put people in power who will ultimately take my rights away? Do we really have no responsibility towards eachother?

Basically what im struggling with here is; Are we really so few who believe our viloent ways is caused by something, and that it could be treated?

If you managed to get this far, please i am in no way trying to force any conspiracy theory on you. Shit is going down all around us, i would even go as far to say its a fact. I am just asking for your humble opinion on all this, or just a pointer on how to get involved with people who feel the same. I know your out there, i just dont know where to turn.

Thank you.

[Sevkat]

At 6/21/11 08:12 PM, IdentiC wrote: Thank you.

No troubles, bubbles.

[Zodiac]

i used to like talking about politics but talking about shit that matters in which you have no way of changing (even voting) is very frustrating.

[sparrow]

Ladies and gentleman, David Icke has entered the building.

[Lorkas]

THE METRIC SYSTEM RAIL ROADS FREE HEALTHCARE.

[Makakaov]

At 6/21/11 08:12 PM, IdentiC wrote: I want to take up arms and rush at an enemy that does not exist. No one seems to know what they are doing, not me, not you, not the governments.

Well I'm not tinfoil hat, but I think it's the goverments who struggle for control over us. Not a total control. They don't need the police state, I mean perhaps they do, but for what? What happens if you achieve the world domination? NOTHING. That's why I can't understand some actions of goverments, while I think they're trying to conquer the society.

To change the world all you need to do is to take up your arms, and rush at the goverment. Several actions in XVIIIth century prove that.

To change the world you need to hit the highest known authority - The Goverment.

[sparrow]

At 6/21/11 08:19 PM, Makakaov wrote:

To change the world you need to hit the highest known authority - The Goverment.

HOW DARE YOU!

[Kwing]

At 6/21/11 08:12 PM, IdentiC wrote: The western world is pretty much beginning its journey deeper into mental enslavement and assimilation, whilst the middle east is conforming to our ways, thinking it will actually make a damned difference.

Hmm, enslavement implies it's forced, when most people who are indifferent to all of these problems have forfeited their voices and their will to stand up for what they believe in because they either feel as if they have no control over things or they don't want to think for themselves. I talk to a lot of people who try and dumb themselves down because they "overthink".

No one seems to know what they are doing, not me, not you, not the governments.

Corporations know exactly what they're doing. Where do you think all of the money's going? It's not vanishing into thin air. But I really like where you're going with this.

We dumb us down willingly with games, booze drugs and MTV and anyone who dares judge us is a fucking asshole who should stop trolling the interwebs with their conspiratorical bullcrap.

I agree on most parts except for your comment about games dumbing us down. Video games have become a form of interactive art, and I think they could very easily turn the world much more democratic. I've written a few essays on how and why, but just look at the plotline from MGS: Peace Walker and tell me that it's just a hunk of shit.

Have we really not come further than this?

There's a duality. Equal rights for minorities, women, and homosexuals have skyrocketed in the past few generations, and kids don't kill animals for no reason as much as they used to. On the other hand, lawsuits are raining down on us nonstop and our kids are shooting each other.I used to think we were either evolving or devolving, but really we're just CHANGING. But this whole middle eastern affair is only a big problem because the CIA helped the Taliban rise to power so they would fight Russian influence, and now they've decided to attack us. It's like if the KGB paid the Westboro Baptist Church to fight the American government.

does that give you the right to put people in power who will ultimately take my rights away? Do we really have no responsibility towards eachother?

It depends. Most people feel a responsibility toward their neighbors, but different cultures give people different conditions on which to decide if someone else is our neighbor, and different cultures instill varying degrees of empathy. I think of WASPs as being some of the most loyal people there are, for instance, but unless you're part of their little group, they'll think you're evil.

Basically what im struggling with here is; Are we really so few who believe our viloent ways is caused by something, and that it could be treated?

Something has changed, and I don't know what. Best look at what's changed since the 70s, when everyone could live and let live.

If you managed to get this far, please i am in no way trying to force any conspiracy theory on you. Shit is going down all around us, i would even go as far to say its a fact. I am just asking for your humble opinion on all this, or just a pointer on how to get involved with people who feel the same. I know your out there, i just dont know where to turn.

I've already responded with my thoughts on all of this, and if that's not enough, you can reply to this post or PM me.

[Makakaov]

At 6/21/11 08:22 PM, sparrow wrote:

At 6/21/11 08:19 PM, Makakaov wrote:

To change the world you need to hit the highest known authority - The Goverment.

HOW DARE YOU!

Fuck you, you're not even real.

[Suprememessage]

Its not me, its you. I'm sorry it had to be this way.

[zooos]

At 6/21/11 09:05 PM, Makakaov wrote: Fuck you, you're not even real.

Hey, he's as real as an uncorrupted or fair government.

[LucasJC]

This thread reminds me of 1984.

[SurferLight]

If it helps you, the Soviets were never gone. Merely the Soviet Union, as a political entity, stopped existing as such. But people with soviet mentality continued to exist afterwards, looking for their glorious return. They want their piece of the pie. And they will take perfect advantage of the different (mainly) anti G-20 (or wathever) protests around the World. Look at Spain, for example. These people in the streets, protesting, demanding major changes. Maybe Spain will have its Red October. Care to guess the impact such an event taking place in the European Union will have in politics worldwide?

[SizzleBolt]

Politics killed baby jeebus.

[Gimmick]

At 6/21/11 10:26 PM, LucasJC wrote: This thread reminds me of 1984.

ANd in what way?