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Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-01 20:32:55 Reply

so tell me how like drafts of dubstep or house music arent Zerovoted,but pieces like mine are.and i do classical.

that just shows me how ridiculous the AP is at times.

now,i know that your rate doesnt really matter if you truly are a good musician and things and how their time will come,BUT i find this to be REALLY unacceptable and i think a new voting system should be in place,different from the flash portal,because although the convienience is there to have identical systems,it's not as abused over in the FP as it is here in the AP.

i mean,the first song i posted,the first time i checked,had a 4.18(A+) even though there were only 4 votes. i come back an hour later,and it's now 2.26(C-)

and my second song has,as of right now,a 0.26(F-)

Either people need to get a reality check on this kind of thing or a renovation has to go down.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-01 20:51:50 Reply

It just happens man , just don't take it to seriously and you'll get used to it. Remember that your music could be heard by anybody, so take in mind that there's people that doesn't even hear 10 seconds of your song but they will kindly vote 0 on your song, not only in classical music , it happens in every genre man.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-01 20:52:51 Reply

Scroll down please.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-01 22:32:37 Reply

A song I released today that's dubstep was rated 3.78/5 so it's obvious people 0 vote dubstep too. I know this because according to my calculations my song deserves at least a 17.9 out of 5.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 00:10:58 Reply

At 6/1/11 10:32 PM, EricFreeman wrote: A song I released today that's dubstep was rated 3.78/5 so it's obvious people 0 vote dubstep too. I know this because according to my calculations my song deserves at least a 17.9 out of 5.

TRUTH!


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 01:16:53 Reply

People who make dubstep are POOPY-HEADS!


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 01:26:04 Reply

people like shit.

try to intentionally make shit.. and see how they eat it up ;P

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 07:44:42 Reply

At 6/2/11 01:26 AM, Chronamut wrote: people like shit.

try to intentionally make shit.. and see how they eat it up ;P

It's amusing, since humans are the ones who create shit, and they do shit . Yet, they act perfect, and are impervious to sin . Humans created shit, just as they created their shadow .

Alot of humans seem to be on auto-pilot, and do things without thinking . Alot of humans are bias, and regurgitate viewpoints throughout their lives, and never think for themselves . You are experiencing life, OP . Miraculously anal retentive .


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 08:05:34 Reply

Mixing genres is the best compromise to do what you like but what the biased audience usually likes.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 08:50:45 Reply

There was a time when people were very helpful, and voted honestly. That time, was before 2007 :(


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 09:15:38 Reply

At 6/2/11 08:05 AM, Kpheeyat wrote: Mixing genres is the best compromise to do what you like but what the biased audience usually likes.

This didn't really help me in terms of zero bombing all that much as I do like screwing around with many, many genres. I honestly think the downvoters just click zero on pretty much everything they can get their, uh, mouse on. No genre discrimination on their part or anything.

It does seem that peppy electronic material does get better scores, though. Might be the lack of listeners in the first place's fault - but that's just speculation.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 09:29:08 Reply

0-bombers don't care what genre the song is in. They will 0-bomb regardless. I know this because I've submitted songs under many different genres (General Rock, Classical, Techno, Trance, Drum'n'Bass, etc...) and they all got a roughly equal amount of 0-bombs.

The only way to get less 0-bombs is putting your song under an unpopular genre like Ska, Latin or Bluegrass. 0-bombs tend to go for the more popular genres like Techno and Classical, and don't bother checking out these obscure genres as much. You'll still get 0-bombs by the more hardcore 0-bombers, but definitely not as many. In fact, the only one time I got a Top 5 was when I made a Latin song.

This is generally frowned upon by many people though. If you made a Techno song, put it under Techno not an unpopular genre which is 0-bombed less or else you'll get people complaining that you got high scores unfairly.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 10:31:01 Reply

At 6/1/11 08:52 PM, Sequenced wrote: Scroll down please.

Thread should have stopped here.

These discussions are about as valuable as mule sperm.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 13:19:03 Reply

At 6/2/11 10:31 AM, SBB wrote: These discussions are about as valuable as mule sperm.

Hold your tongue, sir. Mule sperm can fetch me the fair price of 10 shekles at the bazaar.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 14:07:10 Reply

At 6/2/11 01:50 PM, jpsuperfresh wrote:
At 6/1/11 08:32 PM, NimblekidX wrote: so tell me how like drafts of dubstep or house music arent Zerovoted,but pieces like mine are.and i do classical.

that just shows me how ridiculous the AP is at times.
You MUST vote 5 on your own songs everyday in order to be noticed. Promote yourself and talk to people in the classical portal, and get a fan base. Your fans votes will weigh WAY more than the haters. Nuff Said.

So the only reason you can vote on your own songs is to get exposure out of the zero bombers? I thought the feature was a cheap mistake. It all makes sense now though!

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 14:21:24 Reply

At 6/2/11 01:50 PM, jpsuperfresh wrote: Your fans votes will weigh WAY more than the haters. Nuff Said.

Untrue.


At 3/27/11 10:22 PM, sugarsimon wrote:
the brilliant songs who create a production for music
Wat

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 14:23:03 Reply

I've noticed more issues with the heavy metal sections than anything else, if you put a song in there and don't have a 3 billion+ fan base, your songs will be shit on faster than a tribe of cannibals with diarrhea to the floor of their hut.

Also cock jokes, because this thread has a surprising lack thereof.

But to avoid the reiteration problem, calm down, build a fan base/ask a bunch of your friends to vote for your songs, vote everyday when you can. And your songs will every once and a while be viewed and get the occasional vote/review.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 14:42:03 Reply

Guys, this thread should have ended already.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 14:48:36 Reply

At 6/2/11 02:42 PM, Sequenced wrote: Guys, this thread should have ended already.

That's not true, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 15:15:43 Reply

At 6/2/11 02:48 PM, Kirbyfemur wrote:
At 6/2/11 02:42 PM, Sequenced wrote: Guys, this thread should have ended already.
That's not true, THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE!!!

WHY IS IT STILL GOING


At 3/27/11 10:22 PM, sugarsimon wrote:
the brilliant songs who create a production for music
Wat

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 15:16:18 Reply

Kids, it's not about simply ANY dubstep or house song gets fived blindly, only xKore's does.

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 17:03:30 Reply

At 6/2/11 08:50 AM, SonicJ wrote: There was a time when people were very helpful, and voted honestly. That time, was before 2007 :(

Aw.
Sadness.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 19:42:47 Reply

Aww geez...

now ya'll went on ahead and turned this into a troll thread...

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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 19:53:37 Reply

hey guis da thread shoulda ended loool


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 22:30:14 Reply

Hey guys, this thread seriously should have ended ages ago


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-02 22:32:23 Reply

Zero bombing is zero bombing, there is nothing you can honestly do about it but deal with it.

There are many artists on here, that are amazing, and get zero bombed daily.

Trust me, you don't want to be apart of the Newgrounds AP mainstream, the attention is hardly worth it.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-03 06:56:35 Reply

At 6/2/11 10:32 PM, Chemich wrote:
Trust me, you don't want to be apart of the Newgrounds AP mainstream, the attention is hardly worth it.

Read above.


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Response to Genre discrimination much? 2011-06-03 15:03:25 Reply

At 6/3/11 06:56 AM, Sequenced wrote:
At 6/2/11 10:32 PM, Chemich wrote:
Trust me, you don't want to be apart of the Newgrounds AP mainstream, the attention is hardly worth it.
Read above.

Nothing mentioned that the Newgrounds AP Mainstream was a pile of shit, any mainstream, anywhere as a matter of fact is a pile of shit anyways.


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